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    I like it also. It does try to differentiate from MGB, adding new amenities rather than competing and providing a larger scale.

    I only have one comment: I'd rather see paddle boats in the lake than rowing boats. Seems weird to be out rowing in such a small pond; most big city parks have paddle boats where you work out our legs and the boat impact is much smaller/constrained.

    I also think it is a little strange to ring the oval with trees. Seems to detract from the great lawn in a way.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    I'm warming up to it.

    Like I said in the Union Station thread, I really wish the Harvey Spine would be been incorporated. It's an important planning feature of the Core to Shore master plan that the Devon HQ, Myriad Gardens, Convention Center, and Skydance Bridge all pay respect to. The park is cool, but ignoring the surrounding urban context invites placelessness.

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    In the very near future Myriad Gardens is going to be way busier. Look how active it is now and there is virtually nothing south and very little to the west. And to the east, the Cox Center is a pretty good blockade in itself.

    But imagine the Clacyo block, the convention center and then the Cox site all full of hotels, apartments and offices. That park is going to be overrun.

    Central Park is going to be needed in a way that is hard to conceive right now. And speculators (and OCURA) have been buying up property all around, so it won't be long until that area starts to fill in as well.

    I like the more open nature of Central Park and really like the idea of the Woodlands Walk, which will allow you to immerse yourself in nature while still being in the middle of the City.

    And Union Station alone will make this setting dynamite. I'm starting to get excited about this project.

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    ya, I agree. this is a gem in the making and does allow downtown to grow. actually, there are downtowns that likely might be jealous of OKC for having nice programmed large scale parks in its downtown.

    I know Seattle wanted something like this back in the day (as I and other industrial engineering students did a case study on creating a boston garden type park at south lake union, back in the mid-90's). The parks here (Seattle Center, Waterfront, Freeway Park) are on the edges of downtown or are essentially concrete plazas (Westlake Park, Occidental Park) that don't really add or provide any relief for urban residents/workers. But I think we're going in the right direction here by burying the 99 freeway and creating a lawn that opens up the waterfront (ala Vancouver).
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    I like it also. It does try to differentiate from MGB, adding new amenities rather than competing and providing a larger scale.

    I only have one comment: I'd rather see paddle boats in the lake than rowing boats. Seems weird to be out rowing in such a small pond; most big city parks have paddle boats where you work out our legs and the boat impact is much smaller/constrained.

    I also think it is a little strange to ring the oval with trees. Seems to detract from the great lawn in a way.
    I disagree, it creates an enclosed arena feel & will also help with acoustics by keeping sound in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuatrodeMayo View Post
    I'm warming up to it.
    Same here. The original depictions left a sort of ho hum feeling. Seeing everything fleshed out in more detail makes it much more appealing.

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    In the image which title begins The Oval - Large Event Setup, at the lower left there is a notation that the permanent stage is not used as a stage.

    I suppose I am just having a sleepy morning moment, but why would a permanent stage not be used as a stage for a large event when that seems to be its only reason to even exist?

    This looks nicer overall than I was imaging it would. Hopefully these are truly closer to reality. I'm puzzled by rowboats rather than paddle boats myself, if only because in younger days I never managed to swamp out or lose anyone out of a paddle boat. Rowboats and canoes, well, it don't take a heaping helping of onery for mischief to reign supreme.

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    Ok, how do we get them to table the convention center and do this now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljbab728 View Post
    Same here. The original depictions left a sort of ho hum feeling. Seeing everything fleshed out in more detail makes it much more appealing.
    Thirded.

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    Park is exactly like Myriad Gardens just bigger. What a waste of land and buildings, that we are destroying! They could have had something unique and different, but got the design from the same book as Myriad Gardens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lasomeday View Post
    Park is exactly like Myriad Gardens just bigger. What a waste of land and buildings, that we are destroying! They could have had something unique and different, but got the design from the same book as Myriad Gardens.
    You're being a bit dramatic, Curt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lasomeday View Post
    Park is exactly like Myriad Gardens just bigger. What a waste of land and buildings, that we are destroying! They could have had something unique and different, but got the design from the same book as Myriad Gardens.
    It's a big park, MBG is a smaller park. Both have the elements of many urban parks around the country... How much different did you think they could make them?

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    lol I don't think any city could ever have too much outdoor areas.

    But anyway, where are the plans for the park south of i40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    It's a big park, MBG is a smaller park. Both have the elements of many urban parks around the country... How much different did you think they could make them?
    It seems like this park will have more trees. A lot of trees were removed to add programming to the MBG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jccouger View Post
    lol I don't think any city could ever have too much outdoor areas.

    But anyway, where are the plans for the park south of i40?
    They will come later. This is a recent conceptual plan:


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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCinsomniac View Post
    Thirded.
    Fourthed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    They will come later. This is a recent conceptual plan:

    Why such a funny shape for the southern half? I'd think simply continuing the east and west park borders of the north half to the south half would make more sense. I'd much prefer a more classic, natural park as opposed to this over-stuffed, over-designed modern layout. But if we can get anything remotely similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Terrace]Central Park's Bethesda Terrace , I'll be more than thrilled.

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    Anyone besides me notice that the planned "light columns" bear a striking resemblance to the new World Trade Center tower? Anyone think this was on purpose?
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    "Of course, this is Central Park. This was designed in 1850 by Joe Pepitone. Built during the Civil War so the northern armies could practice fighting on...on grass."

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    It's a big park, MBG is a smaller park. Both have the elements of many urban parks around the country... How much different did you think they could make them?
    REALLY! YOU GUYS LIVE IN A BOX!!!! LOOK AT TULSA FOR A BETTER DESIGN. Its not that hard to think outside the box. I am not being dramatic. I am being honest. They are the same.

    Many Tulsa Residents Wowed By Plans For New Park On Riverside Dr - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerFP View Post
    Anyone besides me notice that the planned "light columns" bear a striking resemblance to the new World Trade Center tower? Anyone think this was on purpose?
    Actually it's a miniature Shanghai World Financial Center:


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    Quote Originally Posted by CuatrodeMayo View Post
    I'm warming up to it.

    Like I said in the Union Station thread, I really wish the Harvey Spine would be been incorporated. It's an important planning feature of the Core to Shore master plan that the Devon HQ, Myriad Gardens, Convention Center, and Skydance Bridge all pay respect to. The park is cool, but ignoring the surrounding urban context invites placelessness.
    Cuatro, do you have a link to what you said about the Harvey Spine? I missed your commentary on this and would like to read it.

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    Kramer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemingstein View Post
    Cuatro, do you have a link to what you said about the Harvey Spine? I missed your commentary on this and would like to read it.
    Here ya go:
    City of Oklahoma City | Core to Shore
    https://www.okc.gov/planning/coretos...uals_data.html

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