OKANA Resort & Indoor Waterpark

[Pete]

Working on the 8th floor. Will top out at 11.

[HFAA Alum]

We now have our record highest building south of the river. Now the question is will we have another bid in the next ten years.

[TheTravellers]

Dude, it's a Martin Scorcese film, and some say it may rival or even top his best works. Taxi Driver. Raging Bull. After Hours. Goodfellas. The list is unprecedented as he is the greatest living filmmaker.

From another standpoint, there aren't a lot of realistic depictions of Native Americans in Hollywood, which has a shameful legacy in that regard. Killers was rewritten several times and produced and directed with the full participation and blessing of the Osage Nation.

It's an interesting story that will appeal to a broad swath of filmgoers around the world, and, if it's as good as advertised, will be watched repeatedly for years in the future. How many times have you watched Goodfellas? Casino? Hell, even Taxi Driver, which is admittedly hard to watch? I don't know about you but I've watched Wolf of Wall Street at least three times. I've probably watched Goodfellas a dozen times or more.

This is a story that few people know about, much like the Tulsa Race Massacre until the last few years. The fact it happened the same year as Greenwood's genocidal destruction says so much about Oklahoma's viciously cruel and racist past. It's almost too much to think about.

The central point here is that this film has drawn absolutely rave reviews and will be a likely Academy Award winner. It will have a lot of staying power, much like Scorcese's other great films do.

I tend to not rewatch films, I have way too many on hand that I have yet to watch. Only watched Goodfellas and Casino once, Taxi Driver a couple of times (once long ago, and once more recently), After Hours a couple of times too. Have probably only seen 1/2 - 2/3 of his films, and only rewatched a few of them.

Do you honestly think that 10 years from now, people all over the world will be watching Killers.... and deciding to go to OKANA/FAM in large numbers?

[Pete]

We now have our record highest building south of the river. Now the question is will we have another bid in the next ten years.

The way things are going, I bet the Chickasaws acquire the land east of Eastern from the City and put at least one more hotel there.

There is already a pedestrian connection that runs under that bridge, so they could add a lot more easy-access rooms to the complex and still have lots of room for the stadium and future development.

[RodH]

I tend to not rewatch films, I have way too many on hand that I have yet to watch. Only watched Goodfellas and Casino once, Taxi Driver a couple of times (once long ago, and once more recently), After Hours a couple of times too. Have probably only seen 1/2 - 2/3 of his films, and only rewatched a few of them.

Do you honestly think that 10 years from now, people all over the world will be watching Killers.... and deciding to go to OKANA/FAM in large numbers?

People are still going to Wakita because of Twister and that was about thirty years ago. The Wizard of Oz came out in 1939 and people are still visiting the museum in Liberal, KS. I'm not predicting what people will do because of Killers, only giving examples of how people have responded to some other movies.

[jn1780]

People are still going to Wakita because of Twister and that was about thirty years ago. The Wizard of Oz came out in 1939 and people are still visiting the museum in Liberal, KS. I'm not predicting what people will do because of Killers, only giving examples of how people have responded to some other movies.

Things are a lot different these days with a lot more options. A movie would have to be pretty outstanding to become iconic.

[Urbanized]

Mississippi Burning didn’t make me want to visit Mississippi, but maybe that’s just me. I’m really excited for this movie, but I have a truly difficult time believing that it’s going to make people more interested in visiting Oklahoma.

[unfundedrick]

We now have our record highest building south of the river. Now the question is will we have another bid in the next ten years.

Are you sure about that? What about this building on S. Robinson.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4436...1338?entry=ttu

[soonerguru]

Do you honestly think that 10 years from now, people all over the world will be watching Killers.... and deciding to go to OKANA/FAM in large numbers?

It's honestly hard to tell if this is a genuine question or you are being obtuse. Seriously, I can't tell, but it comes off snidely, as many of your posts do.

To start, I never once said or implied this would have any direct impact on tourism to OKANA.

What I stated above is, "if it's as good as advertised, it will be watched repeatedly for years into the future."

Knowing what we do about Scorcese's films, and the rave early reviews we've seen of Killers, plus the novelty of this unknown story about the American West, it's hard to imagine this not being something people are still talking about years into the future. Add to that its uniqueness of portraying native people in a realistic way in a major, blockbuster film.

If you doubt any of this or don't understand why, perhaps it would be better to consult a film studies expert or studio marketing executive than folks on OKCTalk.

You would probably agree that your own personal viewing habits for films are not relevant to the public at large (I hope at least) and do not negate the point I made.

You don't seem to be much of a film person, which is fine of course.

[HFAA Alum]

Isn't that a factory or distribution silo? I guess you could count that if you want to talk about heavy industrial buildings that don't seem to give off a living presence. I'm sure it serves a purpose (did?).

[Just the facts]

We now have our record highest building south of the river. Now the question is will we have another bid in the next ten years.

Not open to the public but the control tower at WRWA is taller. How tall is the SWMC tower?

[TheTravellers]

It's honestly hard to tell if this is a genuine question or you are being obtuse. Seriously, I can't tell, but it comes off snidely, as many of your posts do.

To start, I never once said or implied this would have any direct impact on tourism to OKANA.

What I stated above is, "if it's as good as advertised, it will be watched repeatedly for years into the future."

Knowing what we do about Scorcese's films, and the rave early reviews we've seen of Killers, plus the novelty of this unknown story about the American West, it's hard to imagine this not being something people are still talking about years into the future. Add to that its uniqueness of portraying native people in a realistic way in a major, blockbuster film.

If you doubt any of this or don't understand why, perhaps it would be better to consult a film studies expert or studio marketing executive than folks on OKCTalk.

You would probably agree that your own personal viewing habits for films are not relevant to the public at large (I hope at least) and do not negate the point I made.

You don't seem to be much of a film person, which is fine of course.

That's why you shouldn't judge people based on internet postings. I currently have hundreds of DVDs/Blurays sitting around, waiting to be watched, including Criterion's Bergman, Fellini, and Godzilla collections sitting on a shelf (along with the James Bond collection (I'm only up to You Only Live Twice) next to it). Watched Breakfast at Tiffany's and Idiocracy this weekend, wanting to see Barbie and Wes Anderson's new one when they come out, we go to Rodeo and OKCMOA fairly often, I have been watching movies since I was a kid (a long time ago), as much as I could, starting at Lakeside Theater at Grand and May. Admittedly, I don't watch any of the comic-book films, or much action/adventure stuff, or much of what the general population watches nowadays, but you're completely wrong about me not being a film person.

As far as my response, it wasn't snide. I was directly addressing this post - https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...97#post1233497, and honestly, I do not see increased numbers of visitors to OKANA because of Killers..., mainly because it's a resort and it won't be built until after the movie's out of general release. The movie may attract visitors to FAM when it's released, because FAM is open, but I don't see that many "extra" visitors to both for years into the future because of the movie. Be nice if I was wrong, but I just don't think that the movie will make people say "Hey, let's go visit OKC's museum and resort about/by Native Americans after watching this absolutely horrible (in the sense of the subject material (and maybe Leo's accent )) movie" (similar to what Urbanized said above).

[Swake]

I learned about it when we took an oil and gas concession from the Osage Tribe back in 2011 or so. They told us all about it. I was shocked the story hadn’t been made into a book/movie yet.

It was. The FBI Story starring Jimmy Stewart in 1959. It's a terrible movie.

As for the tourism angle, it will probably drive tourism to Pawhuska, which is already starting to be a tourist spot. But overall, no, it won't. It could drive tourism to Fairfax, but there's really so little left.

[Bellaboo]

Do you honestly think that 10 years from now, people all over the world will be watching Killers.... and deciding to go to OKANA/FAM in large numbers?

It centers around Pawhuska. That's where people will go and possibly Gray Horse.

[TheTravellers]

It centers around Pawhuska. That's where people will go and possibly Gray Horse.

Right, I've read the book (and will go see the movie), but the OP was saying they thought it would drive attendance up at OKANA/FAM.

[traxx]

Things are a lot different these days with a lot more options. A movie would have to be pretty outstanding to become iconic.

You serious, Clark?

Have you seen the crap that comes out? It's just content. That's all it is. It's rare these days that someone actually has an artistic vision. It's content that's part of a franchise.

All you have to do to stand out is put in a little effort like Marty on Killers of the Flower Moon or Nolan with Oppenheimer.

[traxx]

but the OP was saying they thought it would drive attendance up at OKANA/FAM.

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...19#post1184219

That's the link to the OP. It says nothing about Martin Scorsese or his film.

[TheTravellers]

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...19#post1184219

That's the link to the OP. It says nothing about Martin Scorsese or his film.

What are you smoking? That's the original #1 post in the thread, but nowhere close to what I was replying to, which I linked to:

"If the movie, 'KIllers of the Flower Moon' has the success as anticipated, Oklahoma may really see a multitude of visitors who are interested in native American culture. I wouldn't be surprised if the OKANA resort has strong visitor numbers for a while if it ties into the success of the movie."

[Just the facts]

How is a movie watcher in Connecticut going to make the connection between this movie and OKANA? If they want to see Native American stuff it is all over Connecticut already.

[traxx]

What are you smoking? That's the original #1 post in the thread, but nowhere close to what I was replying to, which I linked to:

You said OP. OP=original post. If you don't know that by now then I don't know what to tell you.

[TheTravellers]

You said OP. OP=original post. If you don't know that by now then I don't know what to tell you.

I've been on the internet for almost 40 years now, and I pretty much know how things work on it - OP can be either original post *or* original poster, and *in this context* it means the original post by bucktalk (the original poster) that I replied to that started the *sub-discussion*.

[DoctorTaco]

I've been on the internet for almost 40 years now, and I pretty much know how things work on it - OP can be either original post *or* original poster, and *in this context* it means the original post by bucktalk (the original poster) that I replied to that started the *sub-discussion*.

To my great dismay, the youths do not use OP this way. To my kids, OP means "overpowered" like how I might have said "badass" when I was their age.

Times they are a-changing.

[T. Jamison]

What's funny is I am in another forum for online racing with age ranges from teens to retirees. OP is ubiquitously known as both "overpowered" and 'original post/er" so context is even more key.

[HFAA Alum]

To my great dismay, the youths do not use OP this way. To my kids, OP means "overpowered" like how I might have said "badass" when I was their age.

Times they are a-changing.

I'm in my early thirties, so let me elaborate. Context is key. When talking about a post, we call you OP (original poster). When talking about a character or achievement or weapon, etc., we say it's OP (overpowered). When talking about enemies, adversaries, rivals, possible figures in establishment, etc., they are the OP singular or OPPS plural (opposition). Choose carefully, choose wisely.

[TheTravellers]