Alley's End (4th & EK Gaylord)

[Sooner.Arch]

These are the latest and likely final designs that will be voted on by OCURA tomorrow. If they pass, council will then approve.

Way less brick from the previous design.

[jedicurt]

so no more giant VD next to the OKC Ring?

[Mississippi Blues]

The massing along Gaylord seems improved as well as the trees adding to the curb appeal. It reminds me of the Colcord in some respects.

I loathe surface lots and spit on the idea of central Oklahoma City needing more, buuut it seems like going this route will help them get the project rolling and raise the value of this intersection versus what is currently there. I hope that they intend to build on the lot in the future or at least will be open to letting it be purchased/developed by someone else.

[David]

They have submitted new plans for design review.

Most everything has changed, most significantly the deletion of the east building and parking structure in favor of surface parking. They may plan to build on that lot in the future.

The buildings in the new plan are 6 floors vs. 5 in the previous version.

The surface lot is a bit disappointing but I assume that makes it easier to finance. Hopefully a phase II happens in the future if this gets built as currently submitted.

Five floors increased up to six is a nice change.

[PhiAlpha]

Way less brick from the previous design.

You're right. Maybe/hopefully the design review committee will hold them to that and make them revise with less EFIS.

[Tyson]

This looks magnificent. Added height is a huge win.

[BoulderSooner]

Five floors increased up to six is a nice change.

the old design was 6 floors also

[HangryHippo]

the old design was 6 floors also

Not according to Pete.

[chssooner]

Not according to Pete.

Look at the post quoted at the top.of this page, and count how many floors there are. I'll give you a hint, it's one more than 5 and one less than 7.

[Pete]

Not according to Pete.

Actually, the 5-story setup had been changed to 6-story in the iteration before this last version.

It's changed so many times I lost count.

[Anonymous.]

Disapprove.

The building isn't nicer, the renderings are. The surface lot is a joke. Basically turning that entire grass field into surface parking.

To me, when it comes to the style - this is just a taller version of Level Apartments down the street:

[SEMIweather]

Disapprove.

The building isn't nicer, the renderings are. The surface lot is a joke. Basically turning that entire grass field into surface parking.

To me, when it comes to the style - this is just a taller version of Level Apartments down the street

And these aren't even going to have balconies, apparently.

[OkieBerto]

Did someone tell them to try and keep the buildings similar to those across from them? Robinson Park has a similar look. I agree that this is better than before and I like the frontage having some patio and retail space, but no balconies and parking that far away from your apartment with nothing covering it seems like a major fail! At least add some adornments or cool gargoyles or something!

[soonerguru]

They have submitted new plans for design review.

Most everything has changed, most significantly the deletion of the east building and parking structure in favor of surface parking. They may plan to build on that lot in the future.

The buildings in the new plan are 6 floors vs. 5 in the previous version.

This looks SO MUCH BETTER. Much more sophisticated and elegant -- and much less grey, Thank God.

The simplicity of it is much more appealing to the eye. To be clear, I'm talking about the buildings themselves, not the parking situation.

[Plutonic Panda]

This looks SO MUCH BETTER. Much more sophisticated and elegant -- and much less grey, Thank God.

The simplicity of it is much more appealing to the eye. To be clear, I'm talking about the buildings themselves, not the parking situation.

That parking lot will inevitably be developed just a matter of time, so I’m not worried about that. Why no balconies though?

[soonerguru]

That parking lot will inevitably be developed just a matter of time, so I’m not worried about that. Why no balconies though?

Cost? It's my understanding that these are supposed to be affordable rate apartments. Regardless, if these get built and look like this it's a win for the city. I disagree with the poster above comparing them to Level. Looks nothing like Level. Even the materials are different -- and better.

[BoulderSooner]

It's my understanding that these are supposed to be affordable rate apartments.

where have you seen this??

[PhiAlpha]

Cost? It's my understanding that these are supposed to be affordable rate apartments. Regardless, if these get built and look like this it's a win for the city. I disagree with the poster above comparing them to Level. Looks nothing like Level. Even the materials are different -- and better.

Wasn’t that Boulevard Place?

Agree…much better than level. Would like more brick up top as was shown in the first renderings but this looks nice regardless.

[warreng88]

One thing I thought about that I wanted to ask the board: There are supposed to be over 300 apartments in this development. The parking lot shows just over 200 spots. IF they decide to do a phase 2 to build a parking garage on the surface lot, where will all the people who currently live there park in the interim? Would they try to get some spots in a close by parking garage for the time being?

[David]

With a new plan submitted to design review, how close are they to actually getting started on this?

[Anonymous.]

One thing I thought about that I wanted to ask the board: There are supposed to be over 300 apartments in this development. The parking lot shows just over 200 spots. IF they decide to do a phase 2 to build a parking garage on the surface lot, where will all the people who currently live there park in the interim? Would they try to get some spots in a close by parking garage for the time being?

Spoiler alert, there is no phase 2. I bet money that will be a parking lot forever if this gets approval.

[BoulderSooner]

Spoiler alert, there is no phase 2. I bet money that will be a parking lot forever if this gets approval.

lol i'm sure you were one of those that said this about the surface parking that was put in where the citizen building is now being built ..

[Anonymous.]

lol i'm sure you were one of those that said this about the surface parking that was put in where the citizen building is now being built ..

I mean I definitely want to be proven wrong. I also wanted these neighboring projects with "phase" construction to materialize. Hill, Level, Steelyard, Flatiron...

L2/Lift is one of the few I can think of in the downtown area that had a successful Phase 2 start after 8 years.

[soonerguru]

Update:

Attention: BoulderSooner. I saw it here. On this thread. Posted by Pete. All of these apartments are going to be affordable rate, and they are getting state and federal money to do it.

[Rover]

Spoiler alert, there is no phase 2. I bet money that will be a parking lot forever if this gets approval.

If there isn’t demand for more apartments downtown, you are probably right. If someone will pay for it, it will be built.