Will Rogers World Airport

[gopokes88]

As nice as a place like that would be, still trying to figure out who would drink there..? The headline says it all; "...survive your layover". What if it's a place with basically zero layovers to survive? How does the brew pub itself survive?

Abq, Austin, Birmingham, charolette and St. Louis aren't exactly hubs.

I think they were just using the term layover, not you have to be a big layover city in order to qualify for this list. More of a hey if you get bored in airports because you arrive too early, flight is delayed or have a layover here's some cool drinking spots. WRWA already has two bars that seem to do pretty well. When one of their leases is up, don't renew and let a local brew pub takeover

[OkiePoke]

I think there was some mention about Spirit Airlines earlier in this thread, I couldn't find it.

Any chance we could get this carrier?

[PhiAlpha]

Abq, Austin, Birmingham, charolette and St. Louis aren't exactly hubs.

I think they were just using the term layover, not you have to be a big layover city in order to qualify for this list. More of a hey if you get bored in airports because you arrive too early, flight is delayed or have a layover here's some cool drinking spots. WRWA already has two bars that seem to do pretty well. When one of their leases is up, don't renew and let a local brew pub takeover

I think Cross Grains was added (or renovated) with that idea in mind. It isn't a brewpub nor is it local, but they do focus more on craft beers and I think they have some local beers on tap.

[HOT ROD]

Abq, Austin, Birmingham, charolette and St. Louis aren't exactly hubs.

I think they were just using the term layover, not you have to be a big layover city in order to qualify for this list. More of a hey if you get bored in airports because you arrive too early, flight is delayed or have a layover here's some cool drinking spots. WRWA already has two bars that seem to do pretty well. When one of their leases is up, don't renew and let a local brew pub takeover

Charlotte is definitely a HUB (former US Airways #1 hub and now a major AA hub). StL used to be a fortress TWA hub but now is a very significant WN base and has huge O&D. Austin is a significant O&D airport and ABQ is the ONLY airport in New Mexico. All of these aformentioned are significantly larger pax than WRWA, only Birmingham is smaller (but even they have relatively significant passenger counts).

Charlotte and STL definitely could support a layover bar. I think Austin and ABQ less so, but could support it given the cache both cities have (Austin for being weird/but cool things, ABQ for being the ONLY in NM).

[AP]

Yeah CLT is definitely a hub. Been through there multiple times on US airways for connections to most places in the Southeast.

[AP]

For reference:



http://www.faa.gov/airports/planning...planements.pdf

[HOT ROD]

I'm actually surprised STL is that low, I thought they would still be in the 20M a year range. I definitely concur with the CLT numbers, it is a major airport for the SE and was USAirways' #1 Hub.

[Snowman]

I'm actually surprised STL is that low, I thought they would still be in the 20M a year range. I definitely concur with the CLT numbers, it is a major airport for the SE and was USAirways' #1 Hub.

It seems like every few months you hear about STL losing a couple more flights, probably less reported is capacity drops, it was made clear a long time ago they were being dehubbed but at least for them it seems like it has been a much slower process than a lot of former hubs.

[ljbab728]

I received a new email today from Karen Carney with this update about the Pre Check mobile enrollment at the airport.

A couple months ago I inquired about interest in a mobile enrollment center at the terminal building for travelers to enroll in the TSA PreCheck program. Well, TSA is going to do one Monday, January 11, 2016 through Friday, January 22, 2016 (Closed Saturday & Sunday.)

The temporary enrollment center will be pre-security and does not require the applicant to be a ticketed passenger. The enrollment center will be located in the center of the ticket lobby between the American and Southwest ticket counters.

I’ve attached a document with all of the details. Two key things for your customers:

• If they have previously enjoyed Pre✓® by “opting in” through airline frequent flyer programs, they will now need to formally enroll in the program through TSA. The airline “opt in” is no longer valid.
• They must pre-enroll online which will allow them to set up an appointment.
• The enrollment process at the airport generally takes less than 15 minutes.

This mobile enrollment center is only for TSA PreCheck, not Global Entry. People can still go to the enrollment center at 419 S. Council Road anytime.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks.

Karen



Karen Carney
Public Information and Marketing Manager
City of Oklahoma City Department of Airports
7100 Terminal Drive, Unit 937
Oklahoma City, OK 73159-0937

[Pete]

I don't think it's come up here yet, but everywhere Uber and Lift operate there are conflicts over picking up and dropping off at airports.

Looking through a recent airport trust agenda, I noticed they were renewing lease agreements with various taxi companies which amounted to almost $70,000 per year.

Uber and Lift don't typically pay these fees, which I'm sure is a big part of the reason airports typically don't want them around.

[HOT ROD]

semantics. .. It's Lyft.

[shawnw]

I've been picked up by an Uber driver at the taxi area at the airport. He was using his self-owned taxi vehicle (a Thunder Cab) so it didn't look out of the ordinary, but probably this scenario is a gray area of sorts...

[OKCisOK4me]

Yeah, I was gonna say that my cousin works the airport and he's an Uber driver. He's never been told one way or another that he couldn't.

[no1cub17]

It's almost criminal how much Uber has lowered their rates here though. $12 from the airport to downtown? Good lord - if I was an Uber driver I would be out. I don't see how you're coming out on top with rates that low.

[Pete]

The rates are so low because they have so many drivers.

It's all just supply and demand.

[AP]

It's almost criminal how much Uber has lowered their rates here though. $12 from the airport to downtown? Good lord - if I was an Uber driver I would be out. I don't see how you're coming out on top with rates that low.

I feel like a lot of the drivers I get are really only worried about breaking even and just do it for fun in their down time. I'm not sure I've met anyone trying to make a living off of it.

[PhiAlpha]

I feel like a lot of the drivers I get are really only worried about breaking even and just do it for fun in their down time. I'm not sure I've met anyone trying to make a living off of it.

Very few that I've ridden with here are trying to make a living off of it. Though in other cities I've definitely met people who are.

[AP]

Very few that I've ridden with here are trying to make a living off of it. Though in other cities I've definitely met people who are.

I haven't really used it in other cities as I usually have a rental car. I'm sure that's the case in larger cities.

[Teo9969]

Isn't the whole thing about Uber that it's supposed to be a "Ride-sharing" app. The whole point being, if you're a driver and you know you're going somewhere, you might as well pick someone up on your way and pay for your gas and potentially make a few dollars. The fact that it's actually been a source of employment for many seems to be a side-affect benefit for some (although the side-affect benefit of forcing some taxi companies into layoffs make it a wash ostensibly), but the end-all goal was the sharing culture, including getting from point A to point B.

[gopokes88]

Isn't the whole thing about Uber that it's supposed to be a "Ride-sharing" app. The whole point being, if you're a driver and you know you're going somewhere, you might as well pick someone up on your way and pay for your gas and potentially make a few dollars. The fact that it's actually been a source of employment for many seems to be a side-affect benefit for some (although the side-affect benefit of forcing some taxi companies into layoffs make it a wash ostensibly), but the end-all goal was the sharing culture, including getting from point A to point B.

No. God forbid people use something as employment and income. The end all be all was about making money, as Uber is a business. It's always about the money.

[sooner88]

I've definitely had drivers here that were using it as their main source of income. And their hours driven increased in line with the drop in rate just to make the same amount of money they were making when they started. But like mentioned above, it's supply and demand so it's hard to expect the same high rates that we were seeing when Uber first came to the market.

[gopokes88]

Could the Virgin Alaska merger have any impact on WRWA?

[Laramie]

I feel like a lot of the drivers I get are really only worried about breaking even and just do it for fun in their down time. I'm not sure I've met anyone trying to make a living off of it.

Many of these airport taxi/limousine/shuttle drivers were making a living until the new parking garage was completed.

My brother drives for one of the airport shuttle services; he has fixed tariffs to pay first before he can begin to take home any money. It has cut in half his take home earnings.

[dankrutka]

Due to Uber's treatment of their drivers and their absurd surge pricing, I've switched to Lyft. I highly recommend Lyft as they are equivalent to Uber except better in the two areas I mentioned.

[whatitis]

Could the Virgin Alaska merger have any impact on WRWA?

Good question. I don't know but I'm looking at their route maps and they look like they are both heavily West Coast. Virgin obviously didn't fly to okc and Alaska air only goes OKC to SEATAC. So I would guess it won't have much bearing but maybe it'll open up some more okc to west coast destinations. Maybe places like Portland, Salt Lake City or San Fran.