Boathouse Row

[kevinpate]

...
Is SandRidge in danger of becoming a nice corporate "person?"

It's possible. It's definitely an awesome thing for them to do.

[Urban Pioneer]

Indoor surfing, WOW. It started out a triangular pavilion, now it looks like it is moving to be fully enclosed and has artificial surfing.

Wow this is great! I go out to California at least once a year to surf and not having waves here has been the toughest challenge to my staying around.

[Spartan]

Did SandRidge just sponsor something significant? Did metro just say he's a surfer? Has hell frozen over?

Way to go, SR.

[Pete]

I see in the agenda for the Riverfront Authority they are commissioning a study to develop an equine facility along the river.

Although it's tricky to integrate horse riders with pedestrians and cyclists, it certainly has been done with good success elsewhere. Seems like a great idea, especially if they can tie it into other trails that branch off from the river.

I also see they are mentioning the "Power of 10" principle, which basically states to consistently draw people to an area that there needs to be at least 10 things for them to do. Looks we are making very good progress in this direction when it comes to the river.

[lasomeday]

Not sure if this is in that plan but I think it should go all the way to the Stockyards. Anyway we can continue to connect these hubs of attraction. Same reason I would like to see us regain passenger rail access from Bricktown to Remington Park.

Excited to see what their plans are with this addition.

Horses downtown really? That is a horrible idea. Maybe they should look at sending them west instead of to downtown.

We don't want horse nuggets on the concrete trails. There is a reason Jane Jacobs mentioned them in Death and Life of Great American Cities. They don't belong in downtowns!

[gracefor24]

Metro, it would be pretty hard for me to get down there (breathing problems), but, if this gets done and you name the time that you will be trying this out, I'll do my very best to be present and take some pics of you doing your thing on the indoor surfing deal.

This is a very good thing for SandRidge to do, and I was impressed that the amount its contribution was not disclosed so as not to be tooting its horn ...

Is SandRidge in danger of becoming a nice corporate "person?"

Is it possible that they've always been a nice corporate person that simply had a different vision than others for a piece of property? I think so. And I would think buying into an old, empty DT block and spending well over $100 million to renovate it (with that number increasing) would be called being a nice corporate person. Or how about giving generously to help Teach for America bring teachers to the NE side? Many other things that most wouldn't know about that make SD an incredible corporate citizen, much of which are less about corporate image and more about the character of the man running the company.

[Snowman]

Being able to ride from the fairgrounds to the Stockyards would be a good route too.

Unless the stockyards reduced the activities which produce horrid odors for a few thousand feet, there are limits to the types of development that will happen between i44 & Penn and it is surprising how developed it is north and south of it between May & Agnue are now.

[metro]

I could be wrong, but I believe the OCPD already have an equine facility on the river.

[skanaly]

There's going to be public stands built am i correct?

[Fantastic]

Horses downtown really? That is a horrible idea.

So, I'm guessing you are not fond of the Oklahoma Premier Carriage Company?

[Doug Loudenback]

Is it possible that they've always been a nice corporate person that simply had a different vision than others for a piece of property? I think so. And I would think buying into an old, empty DT block and spending well over $100 million to renovate it (with that number increasing) would be called being a nice corporate person. Or how about giving generously to help Teach for America bring teachers to the NE side? Many other things that most wouldn't know about that make SD an incredible corporate citizen, much of which are less about corporate image and more about the character of the man running the company.

Anything is possible. I have no interest in beating a dead horse but there are some who still have negative impressions about how SandRidge handled the development of its campus plan in the review and appeal process, including its unwillingness to allow outside experts have a look at the inside of the India Temple and Okc S&L building. The stonewalling about that and some other related matters left a bad taste in the mouths of some. That is all I'll say about that.

[Snowman]

A proposal to approval the OU boathouse construction went to the OU Board of Regents earlier this week, the story I saw was written before the meeting so it may not have passed, though that seems unlikely since it is fully funded and there will not be resistance at the site it is being built.

[bombermwc]

lasomeday, perhaps you are unaware of the NYPD still using horses? I'd say that constitues "horse nuggets" on concrete. Ever heard of the mounted police in central park as well? Hmmmm.

[gracefor24]

Anything is possible. I have no interest in beating a dead horse but there are some who still have negative impressions about how SandRidge handled the development of its campus plan in the review and appeal process, including its unwillingness to allow outside experts have a look at the inside of the India Temple and Okc S&L building. The stonewalling about that and some other related matters left a bad taste in the mouths of some. That is all I'll say about that.

Glad to hear your open to seeing the full truth. Hope others are as well.

[lasomeday]

lasomeday, perhaps you are unaware of the NYPD still using horses? I'd say that constitues "horse nuggets" on concrete. Ever heard of the mounted police in central park as well? Hmmmm.

Bombermwc, you obviously don't have horses. I have had horses. They don't like bikes zooming by and have to be cleaned up after in urban areas. Those mounted cops have to jump off and clean up those messes.

I am not against the horses on trails. I just know that they pose safety issues. If not properly trained they can get spooked my skater boarders, bikes, etc. Which could lead to horses bucking and running off down streets. They are best for more rural areas. I think taking a horse west from the stockyards/Fairgrounds to Lake Overholser would be perfect.

[lasomeday]

So, I'm guessing you are not fond of the Oklahoma Premier Carriage Company?

No, because the people that own the horses or are leading them are properly trained and so are the horses. Have you ever gone horse back riding in Mexico or on a vacation and had someone with you that has never ridden a horse and they freaked out. I have had too many experiences with people that have never been around large animals freaking out and causing the horses to jump and buck them off.

[BoulderSooner]

A proposal to approval the OU boathouse construction went to the OU Board of Regents earlier this week, the story I saw was written before the meeting so it may not have passed, though that seems unlikely since it is fully funded and there will not be resistance at the site it is being built.

i did not find anything on the regents agenda for the OU boathouse .....

the regents did approve the ON Campus rowing practice facitlity ... with practice tank ... cost 6mil

[Spartan]

Is it possible that they've always been a nice corporate person that simply had a different vision than others for a piece of property? I think so.

Give me a freaking break. That was a nightmare, so let's just focus on the good from the past year.

[Pete]

i did not find anything on the regents agenda for the OU boathouse .....

the regents did approve the ON Campus rowing practice facitlity ... with practice tank ... cost 6mil

Thanks Boulder.

I don't know what the heck the holdup is here... They've had money donated, reported the full funds have been available, etc. Perhaps they are waiting for UCO so they can be developed at the same time? Or waiting on the new pavillion?

[BoulderSooner]

Thanks Boulder.

I don't know what the heck the holdup is here... They've had money donated, reported the full funds have been available, etc. Perhaps they are waiting for UCO so they can be developed at the same time? Or waiting on the new pavillion?

it is interesting ... i would think they would at least have a timeframe in mind for when they would start

[gracefor24]

Give me a freaking break. That was a nightmare, so let's just focus on the good from the past year.

That's one way to see it. Of course the things Pete has pointed out show a bigger picture. But I think everyone hear sees that you're not into the bigger picture. Just your myopic hate based on a few unfortunate events that cast a shadow on what is otherwise a HUGE win for OKC.

The great thing about it is people like you will never have any real influence in a city like OKC. We need people who can see the bigger picture, treat people with respect, take a loss with dignity, and win with grace.

[dankrutka]

i did not find anything on the regents agenda for the OU boathouse .....

the regents did approve the ON Campus rowing practice facitlity ... with practice tank ... cost 6mil

Is there any chance they've pulled out? It's hard to believe they are spending 6 million for a practice facility in Norman and approximately 10 million for a boathouse on the river. That's a heck of a lot of money for a sport that will bring in no money...

[BoulderSooner]

Is there any chance they've pulled out? It's hard to believe they are spending 6 million for a practice facility in Norman and approximately 10 million for a boathouse on the river. That's a heck of a lot of money for a sport that will bring in no money...

the only sport that brings in money is OU football (basketball has before) .... OU spends millions on all kinds of sports that don't make money ... and the 16 mil was all raised from the Athletic dept ... not from general funds ... if OU wants to win at women's rowing (they do) they have to spend the money

[Popsy]

That's one way to see it. Of course the things Pete has pointed out show a bigger picture. But I think everyone hear sees that you're not into the bigger picture. Just your myopic hate based on a few unfortunate events that cast a shadow on what is otherwise a HUGE win for OKC.

The great thing about it is people like you will never have any real influence in a city like OKC. We need people who can see the bigger picture, treat people with respect, take a loss with dignity, and win with grace.

Extremely well said and accurately stated.

[Doug Loudenback]

Glad to hear your open to seeing the full truth. Hope others are as well.

And, now, I hope, gracefor24, that you will return the courtesy.

More particularly, to set the scene for this reply and in this sequence, our exchanges were ... (truncated) ...

Is SandRidge in danger of becoming a nice corporate "person?"

... to which you replied ...

Is it possible that they've always been a nice corporate person that simply had a different vision than others for a piece of property? I think so.

... to which I said ...

Anything is possible. I have no interest in beating a dead horse but there are some who still have negative impressions about how SandRidge handled the development of its campus plan in the review and appeal process, including its unwillingness to allow outside experts have a look at the inside of the India Temple and Okc S&L building. The stonewalling about that and some other related matters left a bad taste in the mouths of some. That is all I'll say about that.

I'm one of those who has the bad taste residue that I've just identified. I hadn't really intended to say anything more on the subject and was content to let it lie. But, you then said,

Glad to hear your open to seeing the full truth. Hope others are as well.

To that, my response is that I trust that you, as well, are open to the possibility that your suggestion/inference, as follows, is likewise subject to the same possibility that I conceded to you, when you said ...

Is it possible that they've always been a nice corporate person that simply had a different vision than others for a piece of property?

... may also be not necessarily so and is open and subject to fair and legitimate challenge and critique, and, that, moreover, the contrary critique, as I've mentioned here in summary form above, may in fact, be correct.

Can I also say about you, gracefor24, "Glad to hear you're open to seeing the full truth?" Put differently, is it possible in your own mind's eye, that SandRidge HAS NOT ALWAYS been a nice corporate person?

Does that work for you, or do you wish to persist in your suggestion that SandRidge has ALWAYS been a nice corporate person? If you cannot concede contrary possibility, then let's just agree to disagree and go on from here.