10/11 story condo tower and mixed use planned for Lake Hefner

[jbrown84]

So why should we not build this just because these Nantucket people are NIMBY's, quite literally?

[Nixon7]

I would encourage you to pay attention to next week's City Council meeting when the new Hefner Master Plan will be presented.

Too bad the master plan couldn't be to let people swim in Hefner...

[okclee]

I have always thought that a good location for a condo tower would be off of NW Expressway just west of the TGI Fridays. I don't think that it is part of the Hefner park and it would be a great view overlooking the lake.

Either way I can't see why the Nantucket people have any complaints about a condo tower blocking a view that they barely have anyway.

[Midtowner]

So why should we not build this just because these Nantucket people are NIMBY's, quite literally?

It would be fair, I think, to compensate them for any loss of value to their property as a result of the loss of this view. A good view can be a significant part of the value of a home.

I'm not sure what the law allows there, and I'm not going to do the research to find out.

[jbrown84]

Doesn't that set up a scary precedent?

Every time something is built that some NIMBY doesn't like and thinks hurts their property value, they can demand compensation??

Come on.

[Spartan]

The project in question no way effects the lake. Just the view from the Nantucket condos. I say build it!

Condos opposing other condos. Gimme a break. This is the most ridiculous form of NIMBYism that there has ever been.

[jbrown84]

Did you hear about that forest that got mad when more trees grew and blocked their view of the lake?

[Midtowner]

You're right jbrown.. I was just remember a bit and a piece from a property class I had a year ago. A servitude of view can be established, but it requires some actual intention. I should have paid more attention in class

[okclee]

First of all I am quite sure that the 10 story condo project would be a very high end upscale condo units. If anything it could raise the value of the Nantucket with comps per square foot.

Second, how much view of the lake can the Nantucket really have. I believe that they are only 2 story condos and they sit below the highway level. Unless the people are getting on top of the condo I don't see the problem.

[DrFritz]

Jbrown has this deal gone through council?

[dismayed]

I've always found it ridiculous that Lake Hefner is apparently reserved for restaurants and office tenants. Some friends of mine and I have thought for years that someone should build condos on the lake somewhere. If they do it I'd buy one, Screw the downtown condos with the view of the city detox center, give me Lake Hefner.

[soonergal]

Well, I'm glad that has been cleared up..that location makes more sense..

[The Old Downtown Guy]

Taking a quick look at the master plan as proposed, would make it pretty clear that talk about building condos at Lake Hefner is a moot point.

The number one consideration of the master plan is to protect the water quality at Lake Hefner . . . since it's a major source of water for a large portion of OKC. Commercial development of any kind, and that would include more offices, more restaurants and residential development, runs contrary to that first consideration. I can't say I disagree with that. So, no more offices, no more restaurants and no condos.

Second on the list is expanding and improving the quality of the recreational uses . . . it's a regional park not just another chunk of land to be parceled out to this or that developer. We don't build condos in parks, other cities don't cut out chunks of their parks and hand them over to someone to build condos . . . it's a bad idea.

Third, the conflict between the auto and truck traffic and the recreational users has increased dramatically and presents obvious safety hazards for the walkers, joggers, skaters, people with kids in strollers etc.
Building roads in parks is as bad an idea as condos.

The new master plan reflects the thousands of hours of citizen input from the recreational users for whom the park was designed and is an example of common sense prevailing over private interests. A rairity in OKC.

[dismayed]

This city amazes me.

[jbrown84]

Taking a quick look at the master plan as proposed, would make it pretty clear that talk about building condos at Lake Hefner is a moot point.

The number one consideration of the master plan is to protect the water quality at Lake Hefner . . . since it's a major source of water for a large portion of OKC. Commercial development of any kind, and that would include more offices, more restaurants and residential development, runs contrary to that first consideration. I can't say I disagree with that. So, no more offices, no more restaurants and no condos.

Second on the list is expanding and improving the quality of the recreational uses . . . it's a regional park not just another chunk of land to be parceled out to this or that developer. We don't build condos in parks, other cities don't cut out chunks of their parks and hand them over to someone to build condos . . . it's a bad idea.

This isn't akin to taking a chunk of New York's Central Park and building a condo tower. This is building a condo tower across the street from it, outside of park land.

[The Old Downtown Guy]

This isn't akin to taking a chunk of New York's Central Park and building a condo tower. This is building a condo tower across the street from it, outside of park land.

It was my understanding that this project was proposed for the OKC Water Trust land where the ball diamonds are located. The OKC Water Trust officially owns and manages all of the park land around the lake. Though the site is east of the highway, it is still part of the Lake Hefner Refuge and the new master plan addresses all of the land.

In any case, the plan as it will be presented to City Council will be available pretty soon.

[keving]

Everyone can take a look at the master plan at the Friends of Lake Hefner website.

Friends of Lake Hefner - Lake Hefner Recreation Master Plan

Taking a quick look at the master plan as proposed, would make it pretty clear that talk about building condos at Lake Hefner is a moot point.

The number one consideration of the master plan is to protect the water quality at Lake Hefner . . . since it's a major source of water for a large portion of OKC. Commercial development of any kind, and that would include more offices, more restaurants and residential development, runs contrary to that first consideration. I can't say I disagree with that. So, no more offices, no more restaurants and no condos.

Second on the list is expanding and improving the quality of the recreational uses . . . it's a regional park not just another chunk of land to be parceled out to this or that developer. We don't build condos in parks, other cities don't cut out chunks of their parks and hand them over to someone to build condos . . . it's a bad idea.

Third, the conflict between the auto and truck traffic and the recreational users has increased dramatically and presents obvious safety hazards for the walkers, joggers, skaters, people with kids in strollers etc.
Building roads in parks is as bad an idea as condos.

The new master plan reflects the thousands of hours of citizen input from the recreational users for whom the park was designed and is an example of common sense prevailing over private interests. A rairity in OKC.

[CuatrodeMayo]

Is there not a summary or map or something? Sheesh.

I must say...Lake Hefner looks quite sexy in those aeiral shots.

[onthestrip]

In my opinion, when I look around and across Lake Hefner whether Im driving or jogging, I would appreciate the look of a stylish 10-15 story tower off in the horizon.