Mack Brown stepping down.

[venture]

Mark it down, Garin, his thread, & his sources are 100% laughable.

If only he would do the honorable thing. Fall on his sword (delete his account) and go away.

It is pretty obvious the guy is just here to cause issues and troll people. While he does provide a certain amount of entertainment, I'm start to feel bad inside. It's just not fair with the cards he was dealt.

[zookeeper]

Count out Nick Saban.

CNN Sports: Saban signs new contract with 'Bama


Rivals.com:

Nick Saban is staying at the University of Alabama, just like he said all along. Saban reached an agreement Friday that is expected to raise his salary to between $7 and $7.5 million per year from his current annual compensation of almost $5.4 million and extend his term as head football coach of the Crimson Tide.

[Chadanth]

Mack brown is stepping down its fact. Will happen either Thursday or Friday. I won't give up my source but it's 100% accurate. The thread title is accurate.

Here we are on Saturday, Mack Brown is still employed and Saban just signed an extension at Alabama. Any other bold, 100% accurate predictions?

[SoonerDave]

Here we are on Saturday, Mack Brown is still employed and Saban just signed an extension at Alabama. Any other bold, 100% accurate predictions?

I would expect part of the dance here was that Texas wasn't going to force out Mack until they had their #1 draft pick in house. Now, assuming that Saban has actally signed the extension, Texas power brokers are looking for their #2 guy in the hopes of making it look as though he, whomever it may be, was their intended all along.

Now, mind you, not to put too fine a point on all this, but unless someone can find a report to the contrary, every media article I've seen so far on this has said that Saban has agreed to or finalized and extension with Alabama. I would very much like a pointer to an article that affirmatively and specifically states Saban has signed that deal.

Before someone suggests I'm trying to delude myself into thinking there's some secret notions that might still land Saban at UT, I'm not; I've never been much in the "Saban to UT" camp. But I would like to see something that says he actually signed the new deal. Just for the sake of completeness.

As for Brown stepping down, I don't see any way around this. Texas' athletic structure until this year insulated Mack Brown from the more powerful of the contrary donors, which was essentially DeLoss Dodds. When football plus other factors regarding legal entanglements made Dodds' departure inevitable, so went Brown's protection. Mind you, the groups that have wanted Mack out didn't just start brewing this season - there's been this sentiment for a time now. I don't pretend to have any double-secret sources, just a fairly reasonable interpretation of what I've read about Texas football over the last several years, not just in the last week or so. There's still a 1-in-100 shot Brown could stay, but it's almost impossible for me to see how. Dodds' was truly his last defender with any influence to keep him, and the big-time guys who want him out now have (essentially) their guy in charge now. Can't see how he stays. Nothing's impossible, of course, but it just seems a real longshot to me now.

[Chadanth]

I would expect part of the dance here was that Texas wasn't going to force out Mack until they had their #1 draft pick in house. Now, assuming that Saban has actally signed the extension, Texas power brokers are looking for their #2 guy in the hopes of making it look as though he, whomever it may be, was their intended all along.

Now, mind you, not to put too fine a point on all this, but unless someone can find a report to the contrary, every media article I've seen so far on this has said that Saban has agreed to or finalized and extension with Alabama. I would very much like a pointer to an article that affirmatively and specifically states Saban has signed that deal.

Before someone suggests I'm trying to delude myself into thinking there's some secret notions that might still land Saban at UT, I'm not; I've never been much in the "Saban to UT" camp. But I would like to see something that says he actually signed the new deal. Just for the sake of completeness.

As for Brown stepping down, I don't see any way around this. Texas' athletic structure until this year insulated Mack Brown from the more powerful of the contrary donors, which was essentially DeLoss Dodds. When football plus other factors regarding legal entanglements made Dodds' departure inevitable, so went Brown's protection. Mind you, the groups that have wanted Mack out didn't just start brewing this season - there's been this sentiment for a time now. I don't pretend to have any double-secret sources, just a fairly reasonable interpretation of what I've read about Texas football over the last several years, not just in the last week or so. There's still a 1-in-100 shot Brown could stay, but it's almost impossible for me to see how. Dodds' was truly his last defender with any influence to keep him, and the big-time guys who want him out now have (essentially) their guy in charge now. Can't see how he stays. Nothing's impossible, of course, but it just seems a real longshot to me now.

I was pointing out the foolishness of a guy on a forum in OKC saying it was a done. 100% deal. I'm convinced Brown is on his way out, but it might wait until after the bowls. There's not a lot of talent on the street right now, and coaches of bowl-bound teams aren't going to jump ship just yet.

[SoonerDave]

I was pointing out the foolishness of a guy on a forum in OKC saying it was a done. 100% deal. I'm convinced Brown is on his way out, but it might wait until after the bowls. There's not a lot of talent on the street right now, and coaches of bowl-bound teams aren't going to jump ship just yet.

I still think Texas would be crazy not to at least take a shot at Gundy, but I don't know if he fits their "ego" profile. They have to hire someone who they think is as "big" as Texas. I think Gundy is a heck of a coach, despite some of his curious public relations moves. There's some notion they might want to look toward the NFL, but I can't fathom any current NFL coach that would be worth pursuing would break away from an NFL gig unless that gig just wasn't working out, a la Shanahan at Washington. But he's a falling star IMHO, so there's no way Texas would want him. David Shaw would be a good hire.

Right now, you're right in pointing out that there's just not a great deal of "big enough" talent out there for Texas to snag now that it appears Saban truly is off the table.

No matter who they hire, that has to be prepared to handle Texas' internal athletic politics. Don't think that aspect gets nearly enough play, as I think that's a huge internal obstacle to most any coach being successful.

[Jersey Boss]

I would expect part of the dance here was that Texas wasn't going to force out Mack until they had their #1 draft pick in house. Now, assuming that Saban has actally signed the extension, Texas power brokers are looking for their #2 guy in the hopes of making it look as though he, whomever it may be, was their intended all along.

Now, mind you, not to put too fine a point on all this, but unless someone can find a report to the contrary, every media article I've seen so far on this has said that Saban has agreed to or finalized and extension with Alabama. I would very much like a pointer to an article that affirmatively and specifically states Saban has signed that deal.

Before someone suggests I'm trying to delude myself into thinking there's some secret notions that might still land Saban at UT, I'm not; I've never been much in the "Saban to UT" camp. But I would like to see something that says he actually signed the new deal. Just for the sake of completeness.

As for Brown stepping down, I don't see any way around this. Texas' athletic structure until this year insulated Mack Brown from the more powerful of the contrary donors, which was essentially DeLoss Dodds. When football plus other factors regarding legal entanglements made Dodds' departure inevitable, so went Brown's protection. Mind you, the groups that have wanted Mack out didn't just start brewing this season - there's been this sentiment for a time now. I don't pretend to have any double-secret sources, just a fairly reasonable interpretation of what I've read about Texas football over the last several years, not just in the last week or so. There's still a 1-in-100 shot Brown could stay, but it's almost impossible for me to see how. Dodds' was truly his last defender with any influence to keep him, and the big-time guys who want him out now have (essentially) their guy in charge now. Can't see how he stays. Nothing's impossible, of course, but it just seems a real longshot to me now.

While I could be mistaken, I believe reaffirmed President Powers is a Brown supporter.

[bluedogok]

While I could be mistaken, I believe reaffirmed President Powers is a Brown supporter.

Yes he is along with the two largest donors who have buildings and schools named after them on campus and one is Mack's attorney.

[Garin]

Well I got that one wrong! But today is a new day full of adventures and life goes on.

[OKCisOK4me]

Well I got that one wrong! But today is a new day full of adventures and life goes on.

You didn't get that one wrong BUT your "source" sure did, lol...

[ou48A]

https://twitter.com/LonghornNetwork/...13435447037952

Cole Cubelic ‏@colecubelic 11m
? RT @LonghornNetwork: BREAKING: Mack Brown will resign as Texas head coach.

[dankrutka]

Well I got that one wrong! But today is a new day full of adventures and life goes on.

A new day for more inaccuracies presented as absolute facts...

[bluedogok]

Yep, looks like a credible source since it is the LHN.

https://twitter.com/LonghornNetwork/...13948234252288

Mack Brown has informed the team and recruits of his resignation He will coach the bowl game.

[Garin]

Half right

[ou48A]

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB 4m
Mack Brown's official retirement press conference will be Sunday at 1 pm CT.

[ou48A]

Among some of the names being kicked around as a possible new UT coach is Mike Gundy.
No way that happens IMO.

[Laramie]

I still think Texas would be crazy not to at least take a shot at Gundy, but I don't know if he fits their "ego" profile. They have to hire someone who they think is as "big" as Texas. I think Gundy is a heck of a coach, despite some of his curious public relations moves. There's some notion they might want to look toward the NFL, but I can't fathom any current NFL coach that would be worth pursuing would break away from an NFL gig unless that gig just wasn't working out, a la Shanahan at Washington. But he's a falling star IMHO, so there's no way Texas would want him. David Shaw would be a good hire.

Right now, you're right in pointing out that there's just not a great deal of "big enough" talent out there for Texas to snag now that it appears Saban truly is off the table.

No matter who they hire, that has to be prepared to handle Texas' internal athletic politics. Don't think that aspect gets nearly enough play, as I think that's a huge internal obstacle to most any coach being successful.

Breaking news...

Mack Brown will resign as coach of Texas following the team's appearance in the Valero Alamo Bowl on December 30, the school announced Saturday.

Mack Brown resigns as coach of Texas Longhorns - ESPN

[OKCisOK4me]

Among some of the names being kicked around as a possible new UT coach is Mike Gundy.
No way that happens IMO.

I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

[Laramie]

I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

If I recall doesn't Gundy (OSU) have a better record against Texas at Darrell Royal Stadium than any of the Big 12 schools. Hasn't he won the last three out of four in Austin?

Personally, I don't want Gundy at Texas; he would know what to do with that talent...

"Oklahoma City looks oh-so pretty as I get my kicks on Route 66." --Nat King Cole.

[OKCisOK4me]

That he has done. But winning at home against UT is the issue, lol.

[ou48A]

[okcboomer]

???

[soonerguru]

I'll be happy to keep Gundy at OkState and I'll be surprised if Texas would even take him considering his dismal record of coaching against OU. Granted players going to Texas can be far more superior to crops of players at OSU but, I think Texas would pass on Gundy just due to the musings at OSU with the whole Sports Illustrated article. Not painting a "Gundy is dirty" picture as I believe innocent until proven guilty but it seems coaches jump ship all the time if a program is dirty. Kind of a catch22 (not you Matthew)... We'll have to wait and see.

Yes, Texas is very sensitive to that. That's why I was so surprised they were pursuing Saban. He may or may not cheat, but there's a dirty aura around him (much more so than Gundy). That, and his habit of oversigning recruiting classes and then dumping players for better ones in year two is pretty uncouth -- something I think Texas would have a hard time with.

[Stan Silliman]

I remember Mack when he was OC at OU with his "Mack Attack."
I never met him but I used to play racquetball quite a bit with Watson Brown, his brother.
Watson played at Huston Huffman along with a few other coaches, Derrick Shepard and Jim Donnan.
They were all pretty nice guys, Donnan a more country than the others, but Watson was pretty nice.

I've got a few Mack Brown songs which ran on the Ronnie Kaye show. I'm debating whether to post them.

[OKCisOK4me]

I like what they said on the radio yesterday morning. Send Jason Garrett down to Austin and let Mack Brown run things up in Arlington...see how that goes!