Mom Says Antwun Parker Was a Hero

[BBatesokc]

I won't call it a goal, but without question it is an unavoidable side effect in the process involved when someone is pressing a request for a judge to step down.

Ersland is a very fortunate defendant. For one he was granted bail - and bail he could pay - and two, he was able to keep his job. That is often not the case for most criminal defendants. People don't realize the system often punishes without ever getting a conviction and sometimes that is the goal.

[kevinpate]

Beyond fortunate. Though it has perhaps happened and I just never heard of it, I canna recall any other Murder 1 defendant in the state having a prosecutor both not oppose reasonable bail and advocate the defendant be allowed to be armed pending trial.


In other news, the judge who was previously assigned the case, until the State requested she step down, has been charged, along with her spouse, in Oklahoma County District Court. The charges do not relate to the prior case assignment.

[kevinpate]

The Court of Criminal Appeals has, not unexpectedly, turned away the attempt of Ersland's defense team to have Judge Elliot removed from the case.

Defense attorneys wanted Oklahoma County District Judge Ray C. Elliott disqualified from the case. The Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals refused in a unanimous two-page order. “The facts of this case do not demonstrate the trial judge has exhibited any personal bias, prejudice or lack of impartiality toward petitioner or his counsel,” the five appeals judges wrote. The case has been on hold. Lead defense attorney Irven Box said he next will try to have the district attorney disqualified from the case.

Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-phar...#ixzz1Fd8bmHPO

[Double Edge]

I noticed that. Guess we'll have a trial someday.

[Achilleslastand]

This keeps getting stranger and stranger......
http://newsok.com/okc-pharmacist-jer...rticle/3546103
Box wants original judge{tammy bass lesure}back on the case.

[kevinpate]

I noticed that. Guess we'll have a trial someday.

just a guess on my part ... fall 2012 ... at the earliest.

[Double Edge]

Associated Press - March 31, 2011 5:15 AM ET

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A defense attorney wants an Oklahoma County prosecutor removed from the case of a pharmacist charged in the shooting death of a 16-year-old boy during an attempted robbery.

Pharmacist Jerome Ersland is charged with first-degree murder in the May 2009 fatal shooting of Antwun Parker. Defense attorney Irven Box has asked District Judge Ray Elliott to recuse District Attorney David Prater from prosecuting Ersland.

Box alleges Prater has made Ersland's prosecution personal. Prater says Ersland's case is no different than any other his office handles. Elliott will hear oral arguments on the issue Thursday.

[OKCTalker]

Who is paying Irven Box's legal fees in this matter? I can't believe that pharmacist Jerome Ersland has this kind of money.

And as for Box accusing the prosecution of making this "personal," didn't he (Box) step over that line when he accused the judge of being a racist while seeking HIS disqualification?

[kevinpate]

Who is paying Irven Box's legal fees in this matter? I can't believe that pharmacist Jerome Ersland has this kind of money.

And as for Box accusing the prosecution of making this "personal," didn't he (Box) step over that line when he accused the judge of being a racist while seeking HIS disqualification?

Last I saw in the press, Ersland mentioned he was tapping out all savings etc. and was seeking donations. I've no doubt it's been an incredibly expensive proposition for him. A multiple lawyer defense team, does not usually come cheap.

[BBatesokc]

He will either be carrying a load of debt into the future or Box (Box Jr. and Reynolds) have agreed to charge far less than they normally would - they may find this a unique challenge - or, possibly for the exposure (though Box Sr. doesn't necessarily 'need' it) but Jr. and Reynolds have a new firm and could probably use the media time.
Ersland went in to this with very little money. From the start he used his guns as payment and what little he had in the bank.

I know when I faced charges it wasn't long before I was taking out a home equity loan. Fortunately I had good equity in our older small home. I don't see Ersland being so fortunate as he lives in a 1,000 sq. Foot home built in 1935 with no central air and an assessed value of about $24,000.

This is the side of criminal cases the news doesn't cover and you never see in those primetime TV dramas. Win or lose you're financially ruined.

If this goes to trial it will most likely be a longer trial and that is where the fees really add up fast. My lawyer charged $7,500/day to be in court plus expenses for trial, motions, unsealing of indictment, etc. I hit $70k really fast with my case and Ersland has had far more motions and prep than mine.

[OKCTalker]

Ersland doesn't have a good case, which explains why so many unusual motions instead and delays in the trial. If you're facing the likelihood of life in prison, who cares how much money you owe on the house?

[BBatesokc]

Ersland doesn't have a good case, which explains why so many unusual motions instead and delays in the trial. If you're facing the likelihood of life in prison, who cares how much money you owe on the house?

I'm still of the opinion Ersland should have been charged - BUT - should be found innocent or given little to no jail if found guilty by a jury. I really think this case will come down to who is better at selecting a jury and captivating them with your argument of the events and the application of law. I can see this going either way or even more probable, a hung jury.

[kevinpate]

will be interesting to see which, if any, lesser included instructions get requested.

[MikeOKC]

will be interesting to see which, if any, lesser included instructions get requested.

Well, if it has to be a simple up/down on first degree murder - he's walkin'. No unanimous verdict, IMO. No way - no how.

[BBatesokc]

Well, if it has to be a simple up/down on first degree murder - he's walkin'. No unanimous verdict, IMO. No way - no how.

I agree, seeking Murder 1 is almost guaranteeing an acquittal.

[surf]

First of all no one knows what went thru the Pharmacist's mind when all of it was going on. It all happened so fast. We cannot slow it down like on a video tape. Someone comes in with a gun, your adrenaline is going to be pumping, I don't care who you are. The video does show the boy did move after being shot the first time. Who knows if he was trying to get up to shoot, to ask for help, or what, but the boy DID come into that place with a gun intent to kill. You don't have a gun for anything else. So, to avoid a lawsuit you should let yourself and female employees be killed by the thugs? I think not. Where is the culpability of the boys mother? This boy should not have been in that pharmacy, period. He should have had himself in school. What is this kids' attendance? What is his police record? Why did she let her minor son be with those thugs? If she has any other children she should be investigated by child welfare. She is responsible for what her minor children do. If they break a window, mom pays for it, etc... Any other children in that home should be removed. Live by the gun, die by the gun.... this boy was on a path to death...if it wasn't this pharmacist, it would be someone else. His path was already chosen by his mother and the people around her...who she really should be suing is the two thugs that took her son on a crime spree, not the person her son held up at gun point. Had her son killed the pharmacist, we would be hearing all about the poor black child, with no daddy at home, and a struggling mother, and it wasn't his fault, and boo hoo... sign of the times I guess. It has no baring whether he was black white latino or asian..he went in that store with one intent, to commit a crime. Do I think he should be dead, no, he should be in jail for the next 25 years, then he could come out early on good behavior and commit some more crimes in our city, and you would need to hope to god he didn't kill YOU this time or one of YOUR family or friends....
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[Easy180]

Parker didn't have a gun

[Achilleslastand]

First of all no one knows what went thru the Pharmacist's mind when all of it was going on. It all happened so fast. We cannot slow it down like on a video tape. Someone comes in with a gun, your adrenaline is going to be pumping, I don't care who you are. The video does show the boy did move after being shot the first time. Who knows if he was trying to get up to shoot, to ask for help, or what, but the boy DID come into that place with a gun intent to kill. You don't have a gun for anything else. So, to avoid a lawsuit you should let yourself and female employees be killed by the thugs? I think not. Where is the culpability of the boys mother? This boy should not have been in that pharmacy, period. He should have had himself in school. What is this kids' attendance? What is his police record? Why did she let her minor son be with those thugs? If she has any other children she should be investigated by child welfare. She is responsible for what her minor children do. If they break a window, mom pays for it, etc... Any other children in that home should be removed. Live by the gun, die by the gun.... this boy was on a path to death...if it wasn't this pharmacist, it would be someone else. His path was already chosen by his mother and the people around her...who she really should be suing is the two thugs that took her son on a crime spree, not the person her son held up at gun point. Had her son killed the pharmacist, we would be hearing all about the poor black child, with no daddy at home, and a struggling mother, and it wasn't his fault, and boo hoo... sign of the times I guess. It has no baring whether he was black white latino or asian..he went in that store with one intent, to commit a crime. Do I think he should be dead, no, he should be in jail for the next 25 years, then he could come out early on good behavior and commit some more crimes in our city, and you would need to hope to god he didn't kill YOU this time or one of YOUR family or friends....
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The good boy who loved to draw and play basketball was starting to amass himself a nice little criminal record before that May afternoon.
It irks me to no end that no responsibility has been placed at the mothers feet nor the criminal. Its been the blame game with her from 2 years ago blaming any and everything but herself and her child. And she should be investigated by child welfare. And why wasnt he in school that day?
Here is what i believed happened.....at least thru her eyes
While strolling along on a warm afternoon coming home from med school on his way to feed the homeless poor antwun came across some elder gentlemen outside of the realiable pharmacy who insisted that he take place in their devious scheme.

[Midtowner]

This is the criminal record going around the internet being purportedly Mr. Parker's:

Criminal Record:
01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny

Keep in mind that when Parker died, in 2009, he was 16. Let's do some arithmetic to see whether these things are likely:

01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
Here, Parker was at the ripe 'old age of one (1). Are these people stupid?

01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
[b]In 2000, Parker would have been 7. That'd have been the warrant for the hit and run when he was 1.[b]

07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
Assault and battery by an 11 year old? Charged as an adult? A little hard to swallow.

08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
A 14 year old charged with domestic violence and stealing a car? And how did we get access to his juvenile record again?

07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny
Considering the above, are you going to believe this? And believe it wasn't charged as a juvenile crime?

The above is the criminal record floating around. Surely you aren't dumb enough to buy into that. I mean, your confirmation bias levels are pretty off the charts, but this would be charting new territory.

[PennyQuilts]

This is the criminal record going around the internet being purportedly Mr. Parker's:

Criminal Record:
01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny

Keep in mind that when Parker died, in 2009, he was 16. Let's do some arithmetic to see whether these things are likely:

01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
Here, Parker was at the ripe 'old age of one (1). Are these people stupid?

01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
[b]In 2000, Parker would have been 7. That'd have been the warrant for the hit and run when he was 1.[b]

07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
Assault and battery by an 11 year old? Charged as an adult? A little hard to swallow.

08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
A 14 year old charged with domestic violence and stealing a car? And how did we get access to his juvenile record again?

07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny
Considering the above, are you going to believe this? And believe it wasn't charged as a juvenile crime?

The above is the criminal record floating around. Surely you aren't dumb enough to buy into that. I mean, your confirmation bias levels are pretty off the charts, but this would be charting new territory.

I thought he was 14 and his partner in crime was 16 - am I wrong on that?

[Achilleslastand]

This is the criminal record going around the internet being purportedly Mr. Parker's:

Criminal Record:
01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny

Keep in mind that when Parker died, in 2009, he was 16. Let's do some arithmetic to see whether these things are likely:

01/13/94 Case # 94-004091 Injury Accident{hit and run}
Here, Parker was at the ripe 'old age of one (1). Are these people stupid?

01/19/00 Case # 00-005964 Warrant on above offense
[b]In 2000, Parker would have been 7. That'd have been the warrant for the hit and run when he was 1.[b]

07/28/04 Case # 04-073500 Assault and Battery on a police officer
Assault and battery by an 11 year old? Charged as an adult? A little hard to swallow.

08/30/07 Case # 07-076159 Domestic Violence 07/08/08 08-057149 Vehicle Grand Larceny
A 14 year old charged with domestic violence and stealing a car? And how did we get access to his juvenile record again?

07/29/08 08-064014 Trespassing Private Property 04/20/09 09-032264 Vehicle Grand Larceny
Considering the above, are you going to believe this? And believe it wasn't charged as a juvenile crime?

The above is the criminal record floating around. Surely you aren't dumb enough to buy into that. I mean, your confirmation bias levels are pretty off the charts, but this would be charting new territory.

Does seem a tad young dosnt it?
Since he was using the last name of his father and not his mother{shocked!}it could possibly be the fathers record.

[BBatesokc]

The only crimes I am certain of are being in a stolen vehicle and shoplifting.

[kevinpate]

Or perhaps an uncle's, or a cousin's, or a third cousin, or someone with a similar name.
Matters about as much as what color socks he wore I suppose.

[Midtowner]

Does seem a tad young dosnt it?
Since he was using the last name of his father and not his mother{shocked!}it could possibly be the fathers record.

So maybe the lesson here is to not take things you read on the internet at face value?

[Midtowner]

I thought he was 14 and his partner in crime was 16 - am I wrong on that?

Probably :-)