OCU wants to move law school downtown

[Midtowner]

Why I say graduate-focused is that graduate students tend to remain in their own facilities while undergrads go everywhere. With music and business, you have a lot of undergrads who use other buildings. With the law school, you have only doctoral students and they go nowhere but the law school.

I don't know whether there are any other comparable programs at OCU.

[OKCMallen]

What the crap are you talking about no room to grow? OCU's masterplan includes buying up everything between Classen and Pennsylvania from 23rd to 30th. And if you don't think they are making progress, check out a map from 2000 and compare it to now. They already own land on both sides of the law school and have plenty open empty land at the north end of campus. They've been buying up land all over the place parcel by parcel for decades for continued growth. They buy the land bit by bit whether they have an immediate need for it or not. They also don't always bulldoze the house once they own the land. That's what allowed them to build the softball field where it is now...because they had purchased pieces over the years so they didn't have to front the expense all at once. If they didn't ever do this work, they would have never grown. The school will never be "out of room".

Look, I know this is a flame, and I know I might get a mod warning here, but you're sort of being an idiot. If the university has to BUY and BULLDOZE, then there's no room to grow laterally.

Look, you're simply wrong. Gaining use of Sarkey's would be beneficial to OCU undergrad programs in at least a few ways. End of story, and arguments to the contrary are futile.

Anyway, let's get the thread back on topic. It would be awesome for OCU Law to be downtown.

[bombermwc]

Well just because you say so, doesn't make it true either. Now whether you intended it to come off this way or not, your previous post sounded like they had no options besides reusing the building because there was no where to go. That statement makes the impression that the school is locked and can't buy and bulldoze to grow. That's not logical because that's how most anyone grows. No one is built in the middle of a field with no surrounding structures....everyone buys and bulldozes, even OU and OSU....hello athletic village, would you say OSU had no room to grow latterally? No.

I never said reusing the building wouldn't be benefecial either. What I said was that it's not configured in a manner that would be immediately useful to other departments. It's set up for a law school...that's it's purpose. Do you need a dean's office and a mock court room if it becomes a Theology school or science building? As I said, it would simply take money to convert the place.

Simply stating that any opinion besides your own is wrong isn't constructive either. There's healthy disagreement and discussion, and then there's childish name calling. I'm open to discussing different options. I still heartily believe moving downtown wouldn't benefit the school or the university.


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Agreed Midtowner, since there aren't any other programs that don't involve undergad in their buildings, it's hard to compare facility useage. Comp Sci is about as close as you can get departmentally because there are so few undergrads left....it's almost all masters students. But then that facility is used by other departments as well. I guess maybe nursing would be as close as you can get. Their new building looks like it's going to compliment their current layout very well. It's definitely a growing school on campus.

[PennyQuilts]

Like a typical lawyer, I feel you are overemphasizing your impact and importance.

HEY!!!!

[OKCMallen]

Well just because you say so, doesn't make it true either. Now whether you intended it to come off this way or not, your previous post sounded like they had no options besides reusing the building because there was no where to go. That statement makes the impression that the school is locked and can't buy and bulldoze to grow. That's not logical because that's how most anyone grows. No one is built in the middle of a field with no surrounding structures....everyone buys and bulldozes, even OU and OSU....hello athletic village, would you say OSU had no room to grow latterally? No.

I never said reusing the building wouldn't be benefecial either. What I said was that it's not configured in a manner that would be immediately useful to other departments. It's set up for a law school...that's it's purpose. Do you need a dean's office and a mock court room if it becomes a Theology school or science building? As I said, it would simply take money to convert the place.

Simply stating that any opinion besides your own is wrong isn't constructive either. There's healthy disagreement and discussion, and then there's childish name calling. I'm open to discussing different options. I still heartily believe moving downtown wouldn't benefit the school or the university.


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Agreed Midtowner, since there aren't any other programs that don't involve undergad in their buildings, it's hard to compare facility useage. Comp Sci is about as close as you can get departmentally because there are so few undergrads left....it's almost all masters students. But then that facility is used by other departments as well. I guess maybe nursing would be as close as you can get. Their new building looks like it's going to compliment their current layout very well. It's definitely a growing school on campus.

Looks like you opened the proverbial can o' worms on personal insults earlier in the thread.

And I'm not saying any other opinion is wrong. I'm saying your statements of fact are wrong...and so wrong that it borders on stupid.

I remember being young and naive once upon a time...

[bombermwc]

And I'm not saying any other opinion is wrong. I'm saying your statements of fact are wrong...and so wrong that it borders on stupid.

I remember being young and naive once upon a time...

Again, your opinion dude. I don't agree with you on that one.

And if your profile here is right, I believe I'm actually at least as old as you, if not older....so give up on the age crap.