Oklahoma's Fight To Save HB 1804

**Oh GAWD the Smell!** · 11-12-2007, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by East Coast Okie

I'm not trying to shame you into silence. Where did that come from? I just wish people would stop attributing motives to my actions/opinions based on what THEY bring to the table.

And I'm not trying to shame you into it, so don't accuse me of it. Pot, meet kettle.

**Midtowner** · 11-12-2007, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by East Coast Okie

I'm not trying to shame you into silence. Where did that come from? I just wish people would stop attributing motives to my actions/opinions based on what THEY bring to the table.

Who is they?

**PennyQuilts** · 11-12-2007, 06:39 PM

In this context, "they" are folk who make pronoucements about others' morality and motives based not upon what others actually say, believe or do, but by what "they" believe is "actually" going on as a result of their independent bias, opinions and beliefs, and their personal experiences that they subjectively perceive as being similar.

It amounts to taking an us (good) vs. them (bad) attitude and not really listening once "they" have decided that others are on the "wrong" side of an issue.

**Midtowner** · 11-13-2007, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by East Coast Okie

In this context, "they" are folk who make pronoucements about others' morality and motives based not upon what others actually say, believe or do, but by what "they" believe is "actually" going on as a result of their independent bias, opinions and beliefs, and their personal experiences that they subjectively perceive as being similar.

It amounts to taking an us (good) vs. them (bad) attitude and not really listening once "they" have decided that others are on the "wrong" side of an issue.

Thanks for that.

**Major** · 12-19-2007, 01:55 PM

Well, for the 2nd time the lawsuit filed against HB 1804 has been rejected by Judge Payne in Tulsa.

I read that Rev. Miguel Rivera is planning to file an appeal in Denver. I think all it will take is to get it before a liberal judge to stop the law in its tracks.

Do I have a point here or not?

**Oh GAWD the Smell!** · 12-19-2007, 03:14 PM

We should send all the liberals to Mexico with them!

**Misty** · 12-19-2007, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Oh GAWD the Smell!

We should send all the liberals to Mexico with them!

Maybe I'll go too. I bet I can get a drivers license or ID card issued easier there. Thanks HB 1804. I'll be spending the weekend digging up every legal document I have that shows I exist. Thanks.....thanks a lot.