Big 12 Football 2017

[dcsooner]

I say again, fire Mike Stoops. Defense continues to yield big points, cannot hold leads

[Stew]

I say again, fire Mike Stoops. Defense continues to yield big points, cannot hold leads

I truly hope Mike Stoops is the DC for the Sooners for the next 30 years. As they say there's no substitute for experience.

[Eric]

So since OU and OSU already have a loss this season, has excitement pretty much bottomed out? I always figure to see posts on this thread, particularly following a rather entertaining Red River game.

[OKC_on_mines]

Oh no.....just some humble pie. SOONERS and pokes still good tho. I think SOONERS still win conference and make it to CFP.

[Jake]

OSU made a lot of mistakes, but the playcalling has been abysmal. The weakness of the team for the past few years.

[dcsooner]

Their lackluster play tells me OSU will likely lose. This fits the b12 narrative, parity. They want/need Texas to be relevant nationally next year.

[OkiePoke]

OSU would be great, except their offensive line makes their O seem suspect.

[Jake]

OU looks like it has a legitimately bad defense. What a disappointment after the Ohio State game.

[dcsooner]

Fire Mike Stoops

[Stew]

Fire Mike Stoops

No freaking way. Give him a life time contract with a dedicated trainer and dietician clause.

[OKC_on_mines]

OSU made a lot of mistakes, but the playcalling has been abysmal. The weakness of the team for the past few years.

Jake, imho I think its the o-line for the pokes that lets them down. They couldn't run the ball. texsa shortwhorns played 2 deep safeties all game. You have to run the ball against that defensive call and pokes couldn't get movement on their d-line. BUT.....they still won and that's all that matters. Great game too.

[Eric]

Jake, imho I think its the o-line for the pokes that lets them down. They couldn't run the ball. texsa shortwhorns played 2 deep safeties all game. You have to run the ball against that defensive call and pokes couldn't get movement on their d-line. BUT.....they still won and that's all that matters. Great game too.

I actually felt bad for the Texas quarterback. Having played in high school, I always tried to remind people that there are nearly a hundred plays that effect the outcome of the game. Even though that last one hurt, there were dozens of equally important plays that shaped the outcome of the game. Hopefully he will maintain his composure moving forward, because in reality, a good Texas is good for the Big XII.

[OKC_on_mines]

That kid is tough.....that's for sure

[AP]

Jake, imho I think its the o-line for the pokes that lets them down. They couldn't run the ball. texsa shortwhorns played 2 deep safeties all game. You have to run the ball against that defensive call and pokes couldn't get movement on their d-line. BUT.....they still won and that's all that matters. Great game too.

Makes sense as they were missing two starters, then had an injury during the game. At one point we had a 3rd string lineman playing.

[OKC_on_mines]

^^^^yup. Good point about the injuries to the pokes linemen. Criticisms aside man was that a good game. Lot of good ball this season. I try to remind some of the fair-weather SOONER fans on those sports boards that coaches can't shed blocks and run through a running backs face mask and tackle them. I have surely had my critiques for mike stoops and his philosophies but Kansas state came to play. Any team can be beat on any given Sunday. So watching NCAA and NFL games through those lens it is clear to see that guys are out here competing, I for one am enjoying how good these games are for a sport that I fear may be "an endangered species "!

[FighttheGoodFight]

^^^^yup. Good point about the injuries to the pokes linemen. Criticisms aside man was that a good game. Lot of good ball this season. I try to remind some of the fair-weather SOONER fans on those sports boards that coaches can't shed blocks and run through a running backs face mask and tackle them. I have surely had my critiques for mike stoops and his philosophies but Kansas state came to play. Any team can be beat on any given Sunday. So watching NCAA and NFL games through those lens it is clear to see that guys are out here competing, I for one am enjoying how good these games are for a sport that I fear may be "an endangered species "!

Oh man you are too right. I have multiple friends who only watch if OU wins. They just can't stand losing. I just enjoy the games, is that an odd thing nowdays?

[OKC_on_mines]

Hahaha. Its so odd its rare.

[Eric]

Hahaha. Its so odd its rare.

Shockingly I have been hearing national media (ESPN) calling the Big 12 the best conference top to bottom. That being said, the depth would likely be its undoing when it came to getting a playoff bid.

[d-usa]

Wrong thread.

[OKC_on_mines]

Shockingly I have been hearing national media (ESPN) calling the Big 12 the best conference top to bottom. That being said, the depth would likely be its undoing when it came to getting a playoff bid.

Oh trust and believe those comments were hollow. Look at the most recent AP poll. Notre dame just beat a sorry Trojan team and they were voted up ahead of both OKLAHOMA and STATE. Now, how the heck can they go from beating the #2 team at the shoe and then be ranked behind that team, being Ohio state, that hasn't beat any ranked team? The logic behind the rankings escape me but I try to remember that the AP polls don't matter because the committee rankings are the end all be all....But still, they look for any reason to screw over the big 12. I keep saying, until my SOONER (or any team from the big 12) wins the natty we want be getting the benefit of the doubt. OUr brand and notoriety is what keeps us relevant and afloat if we slip up. Other teams like bama and clemson get a major pass.

[PhiAlpha]

Oh trust and believe those comments were hollow. Look at the most recent AP poll. Notre dame just beat a sorry Trojan team and they were voted up ahead of both OKLAHOMA and STATE. Now, how the heck can they go from beating the #2 team at the shoe and then be ranked behind that team, being Ohio state, that hasn't beat any ranked team? The logic behind the rankings escape me but I try to remember that the AP polls don't matter because the committee rankings are the end all be all....But still, they look for any reason to screw over the big 12. I keep saying, until my SOONER (or any team from the big 12) wins the natty we want be getting the benefit of the doubt. OUr brand and notoriety is what keeps us relevant and afloat if we slip up. Other teams like bama and clemson get a major pass.

And don’t look now, but Iowa St just moved into the rankings at 25.

[OKC_on_mines]

And don’t look now, but Iowa St just moved into the rankings at 25.

Yup.....

Is it better if Iowa state beats Tcu or vice Versa?

[Eric]

Oh trust and believe those comments were hollow. Look at the most recent AP poll. Notre dame just beat a sorry Trojan team and they were voted up ahead of both OKLAHOMA and STATE. Now, how the heck can they go from beating the #2 team at the shoe and then be ranked behind that team, being Ohio state, that hasn't beat any ranked team? The logic behind the rankings escape me but I try to remember that the AP polls don't matter because the committee rankings are the end all be all....But still, they look for any reason to screw over the big 12. I keep saying, until my SOONER (or any team from the big 12) wins the natty we want be getting the benefit of the doubt. OUr brand and notoriety is what keeps us relevant and afloat if we slip up. Other teams like bama and clemson get a major pass.

Don't understand my comments to mean that several teams in the Big XII should be ranked int he top 10, just that it is the deepest conference. The cat's out of the bag in the SEC, but Alabama is still really good. No argument there. But the doubt will set in as to how good. A 30 point win over Florida just ain't what it used to be. A 3 point win in Austin, no matter how rocky we looked, is still a good win. If you told me that in August I would have laughed in your face.

[OKC_on_mines]

I can agree with you there.

[sooner88]

OU's now 1 of 3 Jordan schools in the NCAA (UNC and Michigan). They were added for football and men's and women's bball starting 2018-2019. This will be a huge recruiting tool.

https://www.foxsports.com/southwest/...n-brand-110917