Stadium District (formerly Producers Coop)

[David]

Another question that just occurred to me on account of G.Walker's post, what sort of approval and planning committees have jurisdiction over this area? Do they have teeth, and do they have a history of actually using the teeth that they have to enforce good and urban development?

[Anonymous.]

It falls within DTD-2. Which would be reviews from Downtown Design Committee and Riverfront Design Committee.

[Pete]

^

It's part of the Scenic River design district which is where they submitted their application to demolish.

[wsucougz]

I'm looking at all the properties they own and trying to figure out how this is a good thing.

[Anonymous.]

I'm looking at all the properties they own and trying to figure out how this is a good thing.

Hopeful and banking on our design committees to come through and maybe this quote from Hayes "talks are underway with an urban lifestyle housing developer and Sooner Investment is doing engineering studies on the site."

[Pete]

I'm looking at all the properties they own and trying to figure out how this is a good thing.

They've done a really good job at University Town Center in building up a huge amount of retail and then spinning off parcels for a hotel, etc.

[AP]

I just hope they really take the residential component seriously. That could add a lot of life to this area.

I'm not holding my breath.

[G.Walker]

They need to coin it as a development, and take that approach & have a vision. Kind of like Chisholm Creek up north. If they just break up parcels & sell the acreage to anyone & let them do as they please, this can end up not so good.

[AP]

Lower Lower Bricktown. Even Lower Bricktown, Now With Additional Parking.

[Pete]

They need to coin it as a development, and take that approach & have a vision. Kind of like Chisholm Creek up north. If they just break up parcels & sell the acreage to anyone & let them do as they please, this can end up not so good.

Of course that is not the plan.

It will be a planned development with the likelihood of bringing into partners for specific parts of the plan. It's a very common approach, which is what is happening at Chisholm Creek and University Town Center.

[2Lanez]

They've done a really good job at University Town Center in building up a huge amount of retail and then spinning off parcels for a hotel, etc.

Yes, but even University Town Center didn't live up to how it was sold. I'm looking at an old Oklahoman article that promises "retailers comparable to Penn Square Mall," which is not the case. Anchors are Academy, TJ Maxx, Petco, Ulta, Target?

http://newsok.com/article/2000619

[Pete]

Yes, but even University Town Center didn't live up to how it was sold. I'm looking at an old Oklahoman article that promises "retailers comparable to Penn Square Mall," which is not the case. Anchors are Academy, TJ Maxx, Petco, Ulta, Target?

http://newsok.com/article/2000619

That was before the recession and retail has changed greatly since that time.

They've brought in a lot of good restaurants and retailers given what the development is.

[DoctorTaco]

Not sure it's a good idea to use a public park in this way but I'm sure there would be a long discussion about that before things got too far.

Not sure if you are being sarcastic here, Pete.

[Pete]

Not sure if you are being sarcastic here, Pete.

Should have stipulated that the long conversations would be behind closed doors with all key decisions made in advance, followed by a sham of a public meeting.

[chuck5815]

Should have stipulated that the long conversations would be behind closed doors with all key decisions made in advance, followed by a sham of a public meeting.

Zing!

[yukong]

I love the sound of this new plan.

Last I heard there is the potential for a serious brownfields remediation effort though, is that something they're going to have to deal with sooner rather than later given the short timeline on the site clearing?

The current owners have met with State officials about entering the state Brownfield’s program. So it appears they intend to address the environmental issues before sale.

[Anonymous.]

View from the Coop/Lumberyard Site.

[Jheat]

I hope they can turn this into something similar to the Houston City Centre. I think this would be a great idea to attract various businesses, housing and retail, while being able to walk everywhere in a pedestrian friendly and car-independent environment. The area should be designed for people to have close proximity to their jobs, food, and entertainment.

[BoulderSooner]

If people are expecting significant retail and housing. Then in advance expect significant parking. That is just the reality of development in this city

[Rover]

If people are expecting significant retail and housing. Then in advance expect significant parking. That is just the reality of development in this city

As it is in most cities. Retail follows rooftops. Cars bring people to shop from rooftops farther away to justify the scale of retail development. Why do people expect quality retail to locate where there are few people and then have no parking?

[jn1780]

Parking is fine as long as the whole thing isn't a surface parking lot. Chisholm Creek is a good hybrid of a urban and suburban development.

[Pete]

I guess I'm one of the few that will be sad to see these structures go.

I always thought many could have been re-purposed for a convention center with a huge new hall connecting some of the larger silos for smaller meeting rooms.

Like it or not, it's unique and we don't have much of that in OKC. And while I look forward to the new development, it's hard to imagine it being much more than we already have.

[hoya]

I think it would be cool if they extended the canal through the property, built apartments with first floor retail immediately surrounding it, and filled in the rest of the property with about a thousand rowhouses.

[Roger S]

I guess I'm one of the few that will be sad to see these structures go.

Same here... I'm also sure I'm one of the few that misses the smell of this too but I also grew up on a farm and my father managed a hog farm for Cargill.... So while a lot of people are offended by farm smells they bring back fond memories for me of being around animals and the silos during harvest time.

[Bellaboo]

Is that building in the lower right of the photo being demo'd ?