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    Interesting article pointing to OKC being a viable candidate to host a permanent NBA team....Like that Cornett understands a new arena would be necessary within a decade even w/ upgrades to the Ford

    Mick Cornett is convinced Oklahoma City can successfully support a permanent NBA franchise.

    As far as the Oklahoma City mayor is concerned, it's no longer a question.

    "You can always ask those questions,” Cornett said. "But I think the best way to answer them is to look at the experience the Hornets had. If we had never had the Hornets, I think those would be tough questions to answer.

    "But I think if you look at the Hornets' experience and the way the community reacted, I think the vast majority of those issues should be put off the table.”

    A recent study conducted by Bizjournals.com supports Cornett's stance. Oklahoma City, according to the report, is one of the country's 10 best metropolitan areas for a new sports team. The study pointed to two areas in which Oklahoma City holds an advantage: a lack of competition from any other major league sports franchise and an abundance of personal income.

    The report found Greater Oklahoma City to have $51.1 billion in total personal income, or the sum of all money earned by all residents of an area in a year. Oklahoma City, which the study found was best suited for an NBA franchise, ranked sixth behind Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Hartford, Conn., Las Vegas and Portland, Ore.

    "A lot of it has to do with your community's commitment to having a team here in a city like ours,” Cornett said. "I think if you look at cities like Portland and Salt Lake City and Sacramento, and you determine that those cities have what it takes to generate enough revenue to keep a team then I don't see a problem with us doing it as well.”

    By all accounts, the Hornets, who played inside the Ford Center the past two seasons after Hurricane Katrina ripped through New Orleans, were a financial success during their stay. A recent report of last year's revenue filed by the Hornets with the city showed how well they fared.

    The Hornets generated $24.8 million in ticket revenue for their 35-game home schedule in Oklahoma City, according to a report by SportsBusiness Journal. The Hornets ranked 15th out of the 30 league teams in home attendance, with the average attendance falling from 18,717 during the 2005-06 season to 17,954 last year.

    The team also reported $9.35 million in sponsorships and media advertising revenue, which, according to the SportsBusiness Journal's report, is about $4.5 million below the league's average.

    "There is some questions regarding the sponsorship market in Oklahoma City, whether it's big enough to be able to support (a franchise),” said SportsBusiness Journal NBA writer John Lombardo. "The attendance is proven. They had a lot of strong gates. But from a corporate partnership prospective, that's the real question long term.

    "To be fair, companies knew it would only be a short-term investment. When you know they're going to be there for a while, it creates a different business dynamic.”

    But Seattle SuperSonics chairman Clay Bennett, who could soon relocate his franchise to Oklahoma City, also questioned the city's long-term viability last month. In an interview with The Oklahoman, Bennett said Oklahoma City's lack of broadcasting revenue is the biggest drawback. Bennett also questioned whether businesses would support the NBA during an economic recession.

    "It won't stay like this forever,” Bennett said on May 30. "Will companies spend dollars in down times? We're testing all that.”

    Some say the two-year trial the Hornets provided was as good a test as any.

    "There's no such thing as a guarantee,” said Ford Center general manager Gary Dejardins. "But you've got to look at what the track record has been. And as the city continues to grow, you'd like to think that we'll have more businesses coming in, which only helps the stability of the city and the market. Success breeds success, and I think we've seen that.”

    Mayor Cornett is quick to point out that Oklahoma City's long-term viability would be closely associated with the team's product.

    "It's a partnership,” Cornett said. "It's not just what the city can do or what the market can do. The team should have expectations as well. If you're asking how popular the team is going to be five or seven years in, tell me how many games they're going to win. Tell me how many times they've been to the playoffs.

    "Long term, in any market, teams that win are supported to a higher level than teams that don't win. Teams with star power are supported a lot more than teams with no star power.”


    On his part, Cornett said he would push for a new arena to replace the 5-year-old Ford Center if and when a franchise comes to Oklahoma.

    "If we go down this road to become an NBA city, somewhere in that building's lifespan of 12 to 20 years we've got to have a new building,” Cornett said. "We ought to be working to do that and have that in our plans, whether it's short term or four or five years from now.

    "As a city, you make a commitment that we're in this for the long haul, and you expect the owners to be in for the long haul as well. I don't think the NBA is something you tip-toe into. You either want to be a part of it, or you shouldn't stick your toe in the water.”

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    I don't know why people are so ashamed of Oklahoma's history.

    I like the Oklahoma Outlaws.

  3. #578

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    This is the quote from Mick I like and with which I agree:

    "I don't think the NBA is something you tip-toe into. You either want to be a part of it, or you shouldn't stick your toe in the water.”

    Hopefully the business and political communities, as well as our voting populace are on board with this concept as well. The cities that have had trouble with it are the ones who think you should get something for nothing.
    Last edited by betts; 06-24-2007 at 10:12 AM. Reason: spelling

  4. #579

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    Quote Originally Posted by OU Adonis View Post
    I don't know why people are so ashamed of Oklahoma's history.

    I like the Oklahoma Outlaws.
    I think Oklahoma City Outlaws would be more appropriate...the NBA will be and Oklahoma City thing supported by fans from the Oklahoma City metro area, Oklahoma City corporations, etc. I don't see Williams and other big Tulsa companies throwing too much money our way when we get an NBA team--they certainly didn't help out with the Hornets I've always thought naming our team after our state (see: Oklahoma Redhawks) is kind of a copout--a little too politically correct for me.

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    I totally agree!! As much as I like Tulsa, I think OKC deserves to enjoy the fruits of its labor as a city. Tulsa didn't vote for the MAPS projects and OUR tax dollars paid for the Ford Center. The UTAH Jazz make sense because Salt Lake City is the ONLY major city in Utah. How about the OKLAHOMA CITY DRILLERS??

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    Drillers sounds great actually!! Drillers can identify our oil/gas history but also mean "drilling a basket" as well.

    NBA Oklahoma City Drillers!!!

    I like it!
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    Drillers sounds great actually!! Drillers can identify our oil/gas history but also mean "drilling a basket" as well.

    NBA Oklahoma City Drillers!!!

    I like it!

    Of all the ones mentioned, I too like Drillers. However, Tulsa currently has that name for their minor league baseball team.

    Tulsa Drillers

    I would hate to see us have the same name as another in-state team, despite it being a different sport.

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    The name "Barons" has been mentioned before...I like that one as well. As for naming the team "Drillers" and it taking from Tulsa's minor league team, it has been done before. Just look at the Kansas City Royals and the Omaha Royals. I know they are together as a farm club, but it's possible to still use that name. Coming up with names is a lot of fun. Let's keep brainstorming for our Oklahoma City_________________!!

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    Farm clubs are a different ball of wax, IMO. They actually make sense to have the same, or similar names.

    I, personally, want to get away from the hickish, oil-boom era names. I think Oklahoma is beyond that now.

    With that said, I have no other ideas to offer. I just know what I don't like at this point. LOL

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    And just as I sent my last post, a name came to me.

    What about the Oklahoma City Stars? Granted, that name was used for the hockey team that was here in the late 70s and early 80s, but I think that it could work.

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    Thunderbirds, Surge, Energy, Rattlers, Vipers.

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    The Oklahoma City Fiddlebacks

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    Oklahoma City Surge sounds good also.


    Please, no Fiddlebacks or Thunderbirds!
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid View Post
    What about the Oklahoma City Stars?
    That's taken by OCU as well as Dallas' NHL team. And it's lame.


    I still like Oklahoma City Outlaws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbrown84 View Post

    I still like Oklahoma City Outlaws.
    Seems like this would be a more appropriate name if the Portland Trailblazers were relocating to OKC, not the Sonics.

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    Besides, this state already has a team named after criminals.

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    Hi all.

    There's been this argument over and over in Seattle (and NOLA to an extent) regarding OKC's media market being significantly smaller than other NBA cities - which would make OKC less viable.

    While I admit that OKC is smaller as it is currently drawn up by Neilson, in reality OKC is quite a major draw in the region and an expanded region would have a media market quite favorably to other cities including Seattle.

    I developed a poll and Im asking what you all think would be OKC's media market for its NBA team? Oklahoma as a state has many different media markets, most of which are based in other states. But I don't want to assume that these areas would immediately support the team (although I do think this) - I'd like to hear your thoughts.

    Please use the link below and vote where you think OKC's media market will expand to for the NBA.

    OKC's NBA Media Market Poll
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    I think the Outlaws fit with the history of the state and its not too hickish. Also I think a color change would be in order. Like a Navy Blue and white trim or something.

    Thats my personal opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid View Post
    Farm clubs are a different ball of wax, IMO. They actually make sense to have the same, or similar names.

    I, personally, want to get away from the hickish, oil-boom era names. I think Oklahoma is beyond that now.

    With that said, I have no other ideas to offer. I just know what I don't like at this point. LOL
    yeah...after all this oil boom we are in now sure did make this whole NBA thing possibile and financially viable from a corporate support standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro View Post
    yeah...after all this oil boom we are in now sure did make this whole NBA thing possibile and financially viable from a corporate support standpoint.

    I know I am definately not trying to distance myself from Oklahoma's past. I think part of Oklahoman's problems is the fact they have some sort of inferiority complex. I am not ashamed to live here. There is a reason we are some of the nicest people you will ever meet and thats because its how we were raised and how we had to deal with adversity in the past.

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    Yeah, but just because OK people are proud does not mean that we should pick a hick name for our team that would ONLY reinforce the negative perceptions that some still have of the region/state.

    Fact is, OK is NOT hillbillies (Arkansas is) but many people around the nation think OK is. So why would we permit that in our 'chance at the big leagues' by selecting a hick name for the team?

    Memphis was lucky in that they didn't change the name of Vancouver's Grizzlies or Salt Lake with New Orlean's Jazz or Sacramento with Kansas City's Kings, since it would have been just as difficult for them to pick a name.

    On that note, we dont even have to pick something meaningful for Oklahoma, we could call them anything - something progressive/urban even.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    I've got it.

    How about OKLAHOMA CITY BOLTS, as in Thunderbolts but dropping the thunder?

    there's nothing inherently wrong with Bolts but that would definitely define OKC without being too hickish or nerdish with the fascination with weather most people have. Oklahoma City Bolts rolls off the tongue and gives many different images (a fast break team with young talented playas that BOLT down the court and score) (a quickly successful team that storms into your city and BOLTS up the scoreboard), so on.

    And add to that, it flows with the WNBA Oklahoma City Storm [Seattle Storm just never flowed with Seattle Supersonics]. We could even call it Oklahoma City Thunderbolts as the official name but most of the time call them 'the Bolts', just like the Supersonics-Sonics, Trailblazers-Blazers, Cavaliers-Cavs, Mavericks-Mavs, Knickerbockers-Knicks, Wizards-Wiz, Grizzleys-Grizz.

    NBA Oklahoma City Bolts, I like it a LOT!!!

    [purple and white uniforms with a yellow bolt]!!!!!!!
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Bolts.......Brilliant!! Hot Rod, I notice the folks over at sonicscentral.com are freaking out about Clay being in Seattle for so long, thinking he might be negotiating a buyout. Any info?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    Yeah, but just because OK people are proud does not mean that we should pick a hick name for our team that would ONLY reinforce the negative perceptions that some still have of the region/state.

    Fact is, OK is NOT hillbillies (Arkansas is) but many people around the nation think OK is. So why would we permit that in our 'chance at the big leagues' by selecting a hick name for the team?

    Memphis was lucky in that they didn't change the name of Vancouver's Grizzlies or Salt Lake with New Orlean's Jazz or Sacramento with Kansas City's Kings, since it would have been just as difficult for them to pick a name.

    On that note, we dont even have to pick something meaningful for Oklahoma, we could call them anything - something progressive/urban even.
    Are you talking about Hillbillies as in Arkansas? Or just being known as a country state like Texas?

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    I think Clay is doing some discussions.

    He had to meet with the two draft picks but also Im sure there were attempts by the Muckleshoots and others to meet with him.

    Im positive he spent some time at Sonics HQ to get with the new GM and have some discussions with them.

    Im sure all other attempts were failures tho, because otherwise the Seattle Media would have been ALL OVER IT by now - as they cover ANYTHING Sonics related so quickly because it sells.

    we haven't heard anything besides the usual, draft stuff, new gm, Bennett clearing the way to move to OKC kind of stuff. Even on the seattle forums people are still mudslinging at OKC a bit. Most of them are just trying to pull strings.

    But I am clearly anticipating the relocation of the Seattle Supersonics and Storm to Oklahoma City, with possible name change of the Sonics. I still think a split season is possible in 2007 but probably a complete relocation in 2008 is most likely with a buyout.

    I don't think Clay was here talking to the city about a buyout though - it wouldn't be in his best interest unless he REALLY wants to keep the team here. I think he was just up here to meet the draft picks (since their first year would be in Seattle) and to meet with Presti and see how the "house" is doing.

    Im almost certain he has given up on Seattle but he can't do anything different (like negotiations out of lease, etc) until Oct 31; it wouldn't be prudent otherwise. ...

    Unless. .... there is a possibility he might move them for the 2007 season??? But I think that is unlikely.

    As for Hillbillies, Arkansas has them and I think OK has a few in far SE; but as a whole OK is more popular for hillbillies for some reason. ???

    I think people think Arkansas but say Oklahoma or something like that, I mean OK has at least four metropolitan areas, two of which are large and one of which is major [OKC being major, Tulsa being large, Lawton/Ft Smith/Wichita Falls, Enid, Stillwater PSA (probably soon to be part of OKC CSA), and MacAlister being the others]. Most people in OK live in cities.

    Arkansas has arguably three metros, only one of which is somewhat large and one has its boundaries in Oklahoma then other mostly in Tennesee. Not sure if NW Arkansas is a metro area. Most people in Arkansas live in the rural, hence hillbillies. But for some reason, people think of OK for some reason.

    Having an NBA team will surely correct this image.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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