Scissortail Park

[rcjunkie]

The good news in this park disaster is that it will be easy to undo these mistakes. Why is it such a forign concept to connect park sidewalks to the sidewalks of the adjacent streets. Everyone person who visits this park is going to have to get in it on foot. I am thinking the designers of this park have never designed a T6/T5 park.

Let me see if i understand what your saying, people go to parks to run, play, exercise, but your complaining because you may have to walk a short distance to get there.

[Praedura]

The questions is - is anyone using these parks in any significant numbers? OKC is planning a park big enough to support 100,000 residents in the immediate area. The parks should be sized to support the number of anticipated daily visitors. Anyhow, that ship has already sailed I am afraid that 360 days a year we are going to be stuck maintaining a park that is grossly over-sized - like buying a 20 bedroom house for a family of 4. Without sufficient usage and 'eyes on the park' I suspect a good deal of maintenance will go towards getting urban campers out and picking up used condoms.

I think this is a very short-sighted point of view. This park will be servicing a growing city, in particular one whose downtown is booming right now. It's not only for the Oklahoma City of a couple years hence when it's completed, but also for the OKC of 5 years from now, 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, 100 years... It is absolutely not oversized in my opinion.

[bradh]

Let me see if i understand what your saying, people go to parks to run, play, exercise, but your complaining because you may have to walk a short distance to get there.

he'd actually have to catch a flight from Jacksonville to use it

[jn1780]

Is the plan to keep the Festival of the Arts on the current stretch of Hudson if and when the Stage Center is demolished and hopefully a new tower is built?

[Just the facts]

There is such a thing as too much urban parkland.

BTW - Will Rogers Park is a well known local used condom trash can.

[CuatrodeMayo]

If anyone cares to read it, here is the entire presentation:

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/cache/2...3023053129.PDF

[Pete]

Is the plan to keep the Festival of the Arts on the current stretch of Hudson if and when the Stage Center is demolished and hopefully a new tower is built?

I'm sure it is.

They could easily incorporate more of the Myriad Gardens and even Devon's park if they needed the room.

[soonerguru]

There is such a thing as too much urban parkland.

BTW - Will Rogers Park is a well known local used condom trash can.

Not sure when you've been there last, but that is not the case today. I realize it was a prime pickup spot for a while, but it is well patrolled and I have not witnessed anything like that, and we go there (primarily to the pool) all the time.

[Just the facts]

Well, the debate is kind of pointless because the park is going to be built. My objection has been duly noted and entered into the public record.

[ljbab728]

Well, the debate is kind of pointless because the park is going to be built. My objection has been duly noted and entered into the public record.

Duly noted, Kerry. And just like I'll be waiting to visit with you when the clock strikes midnight on December 31st, 2019, I'll also be waiting to visit with you about this a few years down the line. LOL

[Urban Pioneer]

I went through all 300 pages of the report. Pretty interesting.

[ljbab728]

I went through all 300 pages of the report. Pretty interesting.

Congrats, UP. You either have a lot more spare time or a lot more patience than I do. LOL

[Urban Pioneer]

Kinda have to, to see if their trying to influence or inform our streetcar process above and/or beyond the verbal statements to us of late.

But yeah, I would have rather been doing something else actually. Lol

[Larry OKC]

So I'm guessing the Harvey spine that was apparently quite important in the core to shore study is dead?

Good observation...

[TAlan CB]

I'm sure it is.

They could easily incorporate more of the Myriad Gardens and even Devon's park if they needed the room.

Possibly, but it would be more difficult than you realize. The whole reason they moved it to it's current location was in large part due to the amount of damage the festival was doing to the grounds in front of the theatre. Due to the Spring "Festival" rains, I can remember going more than once to the Fesitval having to walk on improvised 4x8 plywood sidewalks, a real "mud fest". The great lawn in front of the stage shell is already beginning to "wear thin" from constant use. The tents that the festival uses are made to be accessed - or used - from all 4 sides. So, fronting them on sidewalks would not work. What they could do is shut down the road between Devon and the Myriad Gardens, that would be much more suitable.

[UnFrSaKn]

If anyone cares to read it, here is the entire presentation:

http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/cache/2...3023053129.PDF

This one works. http://db.tt/gE1YtTEX

[Grant]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but what's the reasoning behind the really weird shape of the lower half of the park? Why does the two-block wide upper park not simply continue to the river? That would look and function much better.

[Spartan]

The substation will undoubtedly be covered up.

[CuatrodeMayo]

As a whole (based on this thread only) there seems to be significant dissatisfaction with the design, connectivity & lack of preservation in the new park. Is there enough dissatisfaction to organize a grassroots citizen group to formally suggest changes?

[lasomeday]

As a whole (based on this thread only) there seems to be significant dissatisfaction with the design, connectivity & lack of preservation in the new park. Is there enough dissatisfaction to organize a grassroots citizen group to formally suggest changes?

I am planning on going. There are a few of us that are going to try to make the meeting. I brought up the Film Exchange building in January, and the head landscape architect basically dismissed me. She made it sound like we are lucky they saved Union Station and that it was in the way as well.

They didn't make any changes after that meeting. NONE! They have done their own thing and have not taken any public input as far as the design.

[OKCisOK4me]

I am planning on going. There are a few of us that are going to try to make the meeting. I brought up the Film Exchange building in January, and the head landscape architect basically dismissed me. She made it sound like we are lucky they saved Union Station and that it was in the way as well.

They didn't make any changes after that meeting. NONE! They have done their own thing and have not taken any public input as far as the design.

We should be so lucky that FBB made a significant impact in its cause!

[BillyOcean]

Was a golf course ever discussed with this project? Would be really cool to have a downtown course.

[bradh]

Was a golf course ever discussed with this project? Would be really cool to have a downtown course.

kinda off topic and not downtown, but Stewart's 9 hole course is a nice little hidden gem. easy walk for 9 holes any day

[catch22]

kinda off topic and not downtown, but Stewart's 9 hole course is a nice little hidden gem. easy walk for 9 holes any day

Where is that?

[bradh]

Where is that?

Behind Douglass HS off MLK & NE 10th