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    Quote Originally Posted by Midtowner View Post
    I think the next evolution of the NIL will be multiyear contracts for NIL athletes.
    Hopefully, with schools being able to pay the athletes, NIL will stop being the pay-to-play mechanism that it was never intended to be and those contracts will actually be for name, image, and likeness deals. And then the schools can use the direct payments to form longer term contracts with the athletes. This could lead to some sort of universal payment structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    Speculating yes. But with at least some knowledgeable input. Cale Gundy has said he believes that at least some of the WRs were healthy but just didn't want to play. He's usually right.
    This has been debunked by reporters close to the team numerous times. It’s disappointing that folks keep spreading rumors without solid evidence. Which player specifically are you making claims about? Because there’s solid info on most of their injuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    This has been debunked by reporters close to the team numerous times. It’s disappointing that folks keep spreading rumors without solid evidence. Which player specifically are you making claims about? Because there’s solid info on most of their injuries.
    I don't claim to know anything. Except what Cale Gundy has said. When on the radio he very often says he has an idea what's happening with something but he can't say. When he does make definitive statements he's usually right. Enough that I'll take his word until he's proven otherwise.

  4. #529

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    I don't claim to know anything. Except what Cale Gundy has said. When on the radio he very often says he has an idea what's happening with something but he can't say. When he does make definitive statements he's usually right. Enough that I'll take his word until he's proven otherwise.
    When there's smoke there's fire.

    Just saw a clip with Ikard and Lehman talking about Anderson. They misdiagnosed the injury & didn't order an MRI initially apparently. Sounds like due to the distrust of the medical staff he went and got his own private MRI which revealed the torn quad. All of this could have been prevented with an MRI in the first place it sounds like. Sounds like he was doing PT away from the team in Edmond and may not have been the only one.

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    I'm not disputing that the medical staff may have messed up. That's not what we were discussing. I was contesting the claim that players were healthy and wouldn't play. We absolutely know that is NOT true for Jayden Gibson, Andrel Anthony, and Nic Anderson as they all had known injuries. That only leaves Burks and Farooq who both attempted to come back only to be injured again. My point is that people shouldn't spread the rumor that players are unwilling to play unless they have solid evidence. It seems all these guys—possibly due in part to OU's S&C staff and medical team—were injured and wanted to help the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    I'm not disputing that the medical staff may have messed up. That's not what we were discussing. I was contesting the claim that players were healthy and wouldn't play. We absolutely know that is NOT true for Jayden Gibson, Andrel Anthony, and Nic Anderson as they all had known injuries. That only leaves Burks and Farooq who both attempted to come back only to be injured again. My point is that people shouldn't spread the rumor that players are unwilling to play unless they have solid evidence. It seems all these guys—possibly due in part to OU's S&C staff and medical team—were injured and wanted to help the team.
    If there's any rumors being spread then it's by Cale Gundy. And I have a problem believing that he would do that.

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    OU vs Navy in the Armed Forces bowl. December 27th at 11AM.

  8. #533

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    OU vs Air Force in the Armed Forces bowl. December 27th at 11AM.
    I thought it was OU vs Navy.

  9. #534

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    Quote Originally Posted by gjl View Post
    I thought it was OU vs Navy.
    It’s OU vs Navy. Will Michael Hawkins be the QB?

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    Oops! I read Navy and typed AF.

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    Can we have a moment of silence for Alabama. Hehehehehe. The got knocked out cause of Oklahoma. Well a little bit of Clemson too but mainly Oklahoma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BG918 View Post
    It’s OU vs Navy. Will Michael Hawkins be the QB?
    Hawkins would be my guess. I think I remember other instances where a player that entered the portal is considered gone. And Hawkins is the only other QB with any real experience. And not much at that.

  13. #538

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    Arnold is gone. It’s Hawkins. But Casey Thompson is his backup, and he has about as much experience as any QB could have.

  14. #539

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    Would be fun to see Casey get some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    Can we have a moment of silence for Alabama. Hehehehehe. The got knocked out cause of Oklahoma. Well a little bit of Clemson too but mainly Oklahoma.
    Vanderbilt had a part in it also but yea ultimately the bad loss to OU effectively knocked them out ha

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    Hindsight 20/20, but I have to wonder if Dillion Gabriel stayed and our offense injuries were fewer, I would expect 9 or 10 wins this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    Hindsight 20/20, but I have to wonder if Dillion Gabriel stayed and our offense injuries were fewer, I would expect 9 or 10 wins this year.
    I think that's exactly what would have happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDP View Post
    H NIL will stop being the pay-to-play mechanism that it was never intended to be and those contracts will actually be for name, image, and likeness deals. .
    this was ALWAYS where NIL was going .... and it won't stop until the players are employees and have a CBA .. (or there is Federal legislation )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    If there's any rumors being spread then it's by Cale Gundy. And I have a problem believing that he would do that.
    he is a very disgruntled fired former employee ... so he 100% would

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    he is a very disgruntled fired former employee ... so he 100% would
    Cale gives no sign of being disgruntled. He is on the radio constantly and speaks very positively about OU and his time there. He knows he screwed up and shows no signs of blaming the Univ of OK. That doesn't mean he doesn't wish they hadn't fired him, but he understands why it had to happen. Everyone isn't bitter. There are some people who accept responsibility for their mistakes.

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    How he feels about the university vs how he feels about OU’s current leadership and coaching staff might be two very different things, however. In fairness I don’t think we have much insight there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    he is a very disgruntled fired former employee ... so he 100% would
    I don't think he is disgruntled. He got caught by the cancel culture and paid a heavy price. He is smart enough to realize that and knows it is a society problem, not just an OU problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dob Hooligan View Post
    Hindsight 20/20, but I have to wonder if Dillion Gabriel stayed and our offense injuries were fewer, I would expect 9 or 10 wins this year.
    He still would’ve been running for his life while the line pulled it together (even if they were healthy) but he was able to get rid of the ball much quicker and was better at eluding pressure and sliding up into any semblance of a pocket to make throws so that would’ve helped a ton. But SL still would’ve been the OC and while he’s been a good OC elsewhere, this clearly wasn’t a good fit for whatever he liked to do and I’m not sure how much DG improves that. I have to think he saw some of the things that happened this season coming to an extent and that probably made his decision easier. That said, he is excellent from a ball security standpoint and if we just limited QB turnovers and play average offense, we probably win at least 2-3 more games out of Mizzou, SC, Ole miss, and Tennessee and are in both the Texas and LSU games through the 4th quarter.

    At the time, I think they made the right decision but in hindsight obviously you would rather have had DG. I’m also not sure he necessarily wanted to come back. The OC that he followed left, he likely saw some of the issues coming, Oregon had a much easier path to the playoff, he grew up a fan of Oregon and his sport idol growing up was Marcus Mariota and he was going to get more money at Oregon even if we tried to outspend them. We pay him as much as we can and we likely would’ve lost Arnold which at the time was something they absolutely wanted to avoid. JA just ended up being a bust for us. Unfortunately we called heads and the coin landed on tails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Cale gives no sign of being disgruntled. He is on the radio constantly and speaks very positively about OU and his time there. He knows he screwed up and shows no signs of blaming the Univ of OK. That doesn't mean he doesn't wish they hadn't fired him, but he understands why it had to happen. Everyone isn't bitter. There are some people who accept responsibility for their mistakes.
    he talked all year about OU having only an average Defense ... that is not remotely true on any level .. and shockingly he was pretty silent about it after the domination of Alabama

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