Lexford Park (formerly First Christian Church)

[Oski]

Can you explain more?

Hum, how should I put this into words?

This doesn't look cool when it doesn't look new, this is an example of lazy, filling-the-blank school of architecture, or simplicity for the maximum profit school of real estate development. To me, it fails the "Why you did what you did?" or "What is the though process behind those details?" tests.



This is always a beauty even 500 years from now.

[shavethewhales]

The shapes aren't so bad, but that porch is egregious. I'm guessing that will be replaced inside of 10 years whenever the shine comes off. The metal roofs won't be so shiny and neat looking for too long. I think the lack of window treatments also hurts them, but I expect to see them added on later.

Regardless, I have a feeling that style of architecture won't be chosen on this side of town - but we'll see. Architecture does indeed tend toward "laziness" these days, mostly due to clients demanding things while also wanting to cut costs.

[Jeepnokc]

I hope we won't see another Wheeler District there, those designs won't age well with time.

I hope time proves me wrong but I have always thought the materials used look cheap. They are probably well made homes but just doesn't look that way to me. I am assuming the siding is a fiber cement product like Hardie board but looks like the old T1-11 siding.

[Soonerinfiniti]

Does anybody know if this land sale has closed? Or what it is pending for? It was interesting, online it was listed for $8.31/SF but that was based on 14 acres MOL. County has it as 31 acres MOL. Perhaps the 14 acres didn't include green areas? Just wondering how much they are paying for this land?

[soonerguru]

I hope time proves me wrong but I have always thought the materials used look cheap. They are probably well made homes but just doesn't look that way to me. I am assuming the siding is a fiber cement product like Hardie board but looks like the old T1-11 siding.

I absolutely abhor the modern farmhouse aesthetic. I blame Chip and Joanna Gaines for inflicting it on the masses, whether or not it was their creation. YUCK.

Wheeler is a more eclectic, sophisticated design concept than the farmhouse atrocities that are popping up like spring mushrooms around the Plaza and throughout our inner-city neighborhoods. Yes, there are some Wheeler homes that are loosely derived from that genre, but overall, it's better and I don't agree that Wheeler's properties look cheap.

Like other trendy things, the farmhouse look will eventually lose favor and people will want to kill it with fire. To be clear, I don't think Wheeler is in danger of that; it is more sophisticated and offers some modern takes on fairly classic homebuilding themes.

[mugofbeer]

Does anybody know if this land sale has closed? Or what it is pending for? It was interesting, online it was listed for $8.31/SF but that was based on 14 acres MOL. County has it as 31 acres MOL. Perhaps the 14 acres didn't include green areas? Just wondering how much they are paying for this land?

Is the entire property listed because the back section where the youth center is has a lot of land around it where we used to play softball that may not be included?

[mugofbeer]

I hope time proves me wrong but I have always thought the materials used look cheap. They are probably well made homes but just doesn't look that way to me. I am assuming the siding is a fiber cement product like Hardie board but looks like the old T1-11 siding.

FWIW, I am not a fan of the look in that photograph, either. Give me a simple traditional ranch design with Frank Lloyd Wright -esque horizonal touches.

[Rover]

I absolutely abhor the modern farmhouse aesthetic. I blame Chip and Joanna Gaines for inflicting it on the masses, whether or not it was their creation. YUCK.

Wheeler is a more eclectic, sophisticated design concept than the farmhouse atrocities that are popping up like spring mushrooms around the Plaza and throughout our inner-city neighborhoods. Yes, there are some Wheeler homes that are loosely derived from that genre, but overall, it's better and I don't agree that Wheeler's properties look cheap.

Like other trendy things, the farmhouse look will eventually lose favor and people will want to kill it with fire. To be clear, I don't think Wheeler is in danger of that; it is more sophisticated and offers some modern takes on fairly classic homebuilding themes.

Not sure I would use the term sophisticated to describe Wheeler. Homey, neighborly, evocative of times gone by, walkable…. But it isn’t sophisticated architecture. Its appeal is the opposite. It seems to appeal as “let’s not stand out architecture”…. Let’s fit in with the neighbors and be the same.

[Bowser214]

From their Facebook account just posted
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/joo...ibextid=WaXdOe

[Canoe]

N/m

[okatty]

Lots to be priced $110k to $340k

[OkieBerto]

Lexford Park Website has been updated with Builders, Lot map with pricing, and Floor Plan examples. Really nice update.

[warreng88]

If you click on the "properties" in the drop down, it has prices for a 6,461 sf lot for $275,000... I am guessing that is just for the lot and the house would another $200/sf? Which would be around $450,000, so someone is going to pay $725,000 for a 2,200 sf house. I guess those are around Wheeler prices.

[OkieBerto]

If you click on the "properties" in the drop down, it has prices for a 6,461 sf lot for $275,000... I am guessing that is just for the lot and the house would another $200/sf? Which would be around $450,000, so someone is going to pay $725,000 for a 2,200 sf house. I guess those are around Wheeler prices.

Some of the lots are lower than $200,000 and the smallest row home lots already say sold. Not sure if that means the builders purchased the lots and will build the row homes and then sale them.

[Urbanized]

The home row lots were sold to a builder.

[Rover]

If you click on the "properties" in the drop down, it has prices for a 6,461 sf lot for $275,000... I am guessing that is just for the lot and the house would another $200/sf? Which would be around $450,000, so someone is going to pay $725,000 for a 2,200 sf house. I guess those are around Wheeler prices.

Less than in Nichols Hills.

[jrr2ok]

Hum, how should I put this into words?

This doesn't look cool when it doesn't look new, this is an example of lazy, filling-the-blank school of architecture, or simplicity for the maximum profit school of real estate development. To me, it fails the "Why you did what you did?" or "What is the though process behind those details?" tests.



This is always a beauty even 500 years from now.

I realize that I'm a bit behind on this comment, but it struck a nerve.

To compare the two photos in your post is meaningless. Their common elements don't extend much beyond their statuses as houses with windows and doors. Even the windows don't fall in the same category since many modern windows do not open.

There are a couple of examples of inappropriate modern homes within well known historic neighborhoods in OKC. They stick out like sore thumbs, and no one wants them there. I feel certain that the developers of this project have taken steps not only to mandate design standards for builders, but also to incorporate some form of enforcement mechanism (via HOA or a designation sanctioned by the Planning Commission or one of its ancillary arms) that keeps short-sighted builders from taking shortcuts for the sake of sales and profits.

All that said, materials like board and batten, standing seam metal roofing, and sealed windows have their place. They allow homes to be built at lower costs and substantial energy savings. They may not fit your personal aesthetic profile, and that's fine. I'm also not a fan. But if these materials allow people to own homes by lowering construction costs (or, perhaps more importantly, remodeling costs on the glut of Metro housing stock built with failed materials in the '60's, 70's, and '80's), then that's got some merit.

[jrr2ok]

Less than in Nichols Hills.

I could be wrong, but I don't think you're going to get the design standards proposed/discussed and the lots priced as stated for under $300/sf unless you've got a builder standing up multiple spec homes in the area at once.

[Urbanized]

Considering the adjacent neighborhoods of Crown Heights and Edgemere are now routinely seeing ~$300 sq ft pricing for existing homes I’m not sure why anyone would expect an appreciably lower deviation for new build.

[Pete]

Considering the adjacent neighborhoods of Crown Heights and Edgemere are now routinely seeing ~$300 sq ft pricing for existing homes I’m not sure why anyone would expect an appreciably lower deviation for new build.

Even in my humble neighborhood near OAK, nicely renovated homes are nearing $200/SF.

[Oski]

That's a fair price, nowadays it costs roughly $165-185/sqft to build, and land cost should at least another $25/sqft.