U.S. GRANT GENERALS.......got memories?

[Generals64]

I had coaches Milliron and Meredith for gym. Meredith was our assistant
football coach.

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I wish you hadn't told us that....I can't get the visual picture out of my mind....You (Prunepicker) running around in those little Gym Shorts (Red of course) with a Gray U.S. Grant T-Shirt......Did you carry the bass with you??

[Prunepicker]

I wish you hadn't told us that... I can't get the visual picture out of my
mind... You (Prunepicker) running around in those little Gym Shorts (Red of
course) with a Gray U.S. Grant T-Shirt... Did you carry the bass with
you?

It was quite a sight to behold. Basses weren't allowed on the gym floor.

[Generals64]

QUESTION:.....Do any of you Generals remember where the 7th and 8th grade classes were first held at Dear old Grant High. Not talking about the Circus Tent......Carltonskeeper should know this one....

[CarltonsKeeper]

QUESTION:.....Do any of you Generals remember where the 7th and 8th grade classes were first held at Dear old Grant High. Not talking about the Circus Tent......Carltonskeeper should know this one....

Are you talking about the "Pre-Fabs" ??????????????? I was there (last class to go all the way through) 7th thru the 12th and never got stuck in a Pre-Fab... They were cold in the winter and hot in the Spring! (some may have went to the Church across the street, but that was before my time, Grant opened in 1953!!

[Generals64]

Are you talking about the "Pre-Fabs" ??????????????? I was there (last class to go all the way through) 7th thru the 12th and never got stuck in a Pre-Fab... They were cold in the winter and hot in the Spring! (some may have went to the Church across the street, but that was before my time, Grant opened in 1953!!

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Well, you won the prize, they used the Church across the street for quite some time....they had mainly basic courses for the 7th-8th grade kids.....your sister went there......

[papaOU]

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Well, you won the prize, they used the Church across the street for quite some time....they had mainly basic courses for the 7th-8th grade kids.....your sister went there......

Church? Don't believe it! Generals are the anti-Christ!!!

[papaOU]

It is really sad that if students don't want to learn the teachers and administrators get the blame. Seems that Grant is in its fourth year on the feds need improvement list. The OKC school board is going to take up the matter and hold the fate of faculty and staff alike.

Story is in todays Oklahoman.

[MsDarkstar]

Yeah, I posted about that HERE. Thought about linking it here, but since it's not really nostalgia I made it's own thread. Very sad. I hope they figure out what to do.

[Generals64]

This is going to be interesting tonight. The school is Brand New.....The teachers don't seem to get it.....You have to have control before you can get their attention. They can't blame the kids because kids will be kids....How about the "Feeder" Middle Schools? Are they doing their job? Are they preparing these kids to go to a High School or, are they just having a "Good Time"????
Some of the Teachers are probably pretty good but they also probably don't have any support from the Upper Management.....I know (stump speech) we used to get Swats....that deterred many problems....We also were made to mind.....one way or the other....And, if you were failing....you were failing...You can blame on only one person......The one that is failing.....O.K., I'll be quiet....But this is going to be interesting....

[Prunepicker]

I read in the Daily Oklahoman that Grant is not doing a good job. So sad.

NewsOK

[Okiezmom]

I saw the article in the paper today, too. Grant was a good school, as were most (but not all) of the OKC public schools, at one time. The teachers cared (especially Mrs. Baugh!) and the administrators cared. Unfortunately, our alma mater is a victim of things that are going on in the rest of the world....apathy, laziness and selfishness.

[rcjunkie]

At Grant, as well as most schools with similar problems, I think it's wrong to place 100% of the blame on the principal/teachers, the students carry some of the problems, but in my opinion, the majority of the blame falls on the shoulders of the parents.

[progressiveboy]

At Grant, as well as most schools with similar problems, I think it's wrong to place 100% of the blame on the principal/teachers, the students carry some of the problems, but in my opinion, the majority of the blame falls on the shoulders of the parents.

Disagree. What ever happened to "Individual responsibility"? It is so easy to blame someone else for one's failure. Granted there may be a small percentage of blame on the parents, however this to me is an excuse and not addressing the real issue. We are "ultimately" responsible for our own lives and are held accountable for our actions instead of blaming it on Mommy or Daddy or someone else for that matter. I believe the problem lies with "some" students that do not wish to succeed or they may not have personal goals in their lives. It comes down to what is important to that student? To put the majority of blame on the parents is just delusional IMO.

[papaOU]

I saw the article in the paper today, too. Grant was a good school, as were most (but not all) of the OKC public schools, at one time. The teachers cared (especially Mrs. Baugh!) and the administrators cared. Unfortunately, our alma mater is a victim of things that are going on in the rest of the world....apathy, laziness and selfishness.

When I hit CHHS as a sophomore the administrators as a whole had gotten to where they did not care. Teachers soon followed. By my senior year nobody cared if you went to class or not.

Let's not forget that forced busing brought about a total upheaval from the start.

[SOUTHSIDE GIRL]

Disagree. What ever happened to "Individual responsibility"? It is so easy to blame someone else for one's failure. Granted there may be a small percentage of blame on the parents, however this to me is an excuse and not addressing the real issue. We are "ultimately" responsible for our own lives and are held accountable for our actions instead of blaming it on Mommy or Daddy or someone else for that matter. I believe the problem lies with "some" students that do not wish to succeed or they may not have personal goals in their lives. It comes down to what is important to that student? To put the majority of blame on the parents is just delusional IMO.

Agree , somewhat but parents are supposed to install the responsibility factor at an early age. Most of those kids, don't have that. Remember last month when how many were locked out and parents didn't even know what time school started.

[sam greenroyd]

This is going to be interesting tonight. The school is Brand New.....The teachers don't seem to get it.....You have to have control before you can get their attention. They can't blame the kids because kids will be kids....How about the "Feeder" Middle Schools? Are they doing their job? Are they preparing these kids to go to a High School or, are they just having a "Good Time"????
Some of the Teachers are probably pretty good but they also probably don't have any support from the Upper Management.....I know (stump speech) we used to get Swats....that deterred many problems....We also were made to mind.....one way or the other....And, if you were failing....you were failing...You can blame on only one person......The one that is failing.....O.K., I'll be quiet....But this is going to be interesting....

I said this in another thread but i think its true you just can't throw money at a problem and think it will fix itself (new school )

[Generals64]

I said this in another thread but i think its true you just can't throw money at a problem and think it will fix itself (new school )

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I had heard that the only reason Grant was rebuilt was that there was a new John Marshall and Douglas....(both needed to be replaced) and the Board of Education didn't want the "Flack" over the North Side Schools getting New Schools and the Southside didn't....I personally thought Grant just needed a "Face Lift"....North completely replaced.....Don't know why they (School Board) didn't build an Alternative School for the South side and enforce the Code of Conduct.....Years ago.....many....If you broke too many rules and or laws, you got to visit a place called "Berry House".....Hmmmmm what happened to that place????

[sam greenroyd]

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I had heard that the only reason Grant was rebuilt was that there was a new John Marshall and Douglas....(both needed to be replaced) and the Board of Education didn't want the "Flack" over the North Side Schools getting New Schools and the Southside didn't....I personally thought Grant just needed a "Face Lift"....North completely replaced.....Don't know why they (School Board) didn't build an Alternative School for the South side and enforce the Code of Conduct.....Years ago.....many....If you broke too many rules and or laws, you got to visit a place called "Berry House".....Hmmmmm what happened to that place????

I agree on facelift 64 I went through the old school before they tore in down and it didn't look that bad to me. as far as the berry house i don't think todays parents would go for that ( big difference from our day )

[corpsman]

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I had heard that the only reason Grant was rebuilt was that there was a new John Marshall and Douglas....(both needed to be replaced) and the Board of Education didn't want the "Flack" over the North Side Schools getting New Schools and the Southside didn't....I personally thought Grant just needed a "Face Lift"....North completely replaced.....Don't know why they (School Board) didn't build an Alternative School for the South side and enforce the Code of Conduct.....Years ago.....many....If you broke too many rules and or laws, you got to visit a place called "Berry House".....Hmmmmm what happened to that place????

Had a face lift and name change....Still up on Classen now called Oklahoma County Juvenile Detention Center or something to that effect. Kids from my era and neck of the woods got threatened with Helena (reform school) By the by, had a nephew graduate from Grant in the not so distant past, and when we went for the ceremonies, the old place looked pretty good to us also.

[progressiveboy]

Agree , somewhat but parents are supposed to install the responsibility factor at an early age. Most of those kids, don't have that. Remember last month when how many were locked out and parents didn't even know what time school started.

I do agree that parents do need to instill responsibility to their children at the earliest age possible, however, if the child does not wish to be responsible and does not wish to succeed in life then quite frankly, that child has already developed a "mindset" that this is just the way it's going to be. That child has "free will". If one make choices and they are not good choices then one needs to be prepared to reap what they sow or as others would say "karma".

[sam greenroyd]

Agree , somewhat but parents are supposed to install the responsibility factor at an early age. Most of those kids, don't have that. Remember last month when how many were locked out and parents didn't even know what time school started.

I agree with you southside girl the parent back in my day would support a teachers stand in most cases, the parents nowdays get violent with teachers a lot of the time. I've heard of a lot of threats that you would have never have heard in my days.That really sends a bad message to the kids that they can do what they want.

[Generals64]

I agree with you southside girl the parent back in my day would support a teachers stand in most cases, the parents nowdays get violent with teachers a lot of the time. I've heard of a lot of threats that you would have never have heard in my days.That really sends a bad message to the kids that they can do what they want.

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My wife is a teacher and has been for over forty years....You wouldn't believe the threats made towards her. One time in Texas there was a absentee Dad that was going to set the teacher straight....He came to our home and my wife told me to go to the back bedroom and wait....She'd handle it.....all of a sudden he "Screamed" to her that she was no more than and Cheap "B%$#H". I knew better than that cause she's not cheap.....I didn't say that really.... But, the "Redneck OKIE" came out in me and there was a challenge thrown down...Outside and let's get a little closer my friend.....We step out, he took off his Cheesey Leather Sport coat....and I showed him just how well I had trained my Great Danes....The words "Sic em"...met a lot to those dogs....he jumped in his little Cheap Corvette and took off...Of yeah, he forgot his girlfriend and that Cheap Coat.....Yeah, I had her wait outside until he came back......She was a cute Girl but, it was a cheap Jacket.....

[JIMBO]

I think of education as a three legged stool.
You have the seat and three legs.
MAPS for KIDS has built a good seat for GHS.
Now we nead three strong legs.
Students who are willing and able learn
Faculty who are willing and able to [B]teach.
Parents who [B]support them [B]both.
Just my 2 cents.

[sam greenroyd]

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My wife is a teacher and has been for over forty years....You wouldn't believe the threats made towards her. One time in Texas there was a absentee Dad that was going to set the teacher straight....He came to our home and my wife told me to go to the back bedroom and wait....She'd handle it.....all of a sudden he "Screamed" to her that she was no more than and Cheap "B%$#H". I knew better than that cause she's not cheap.....I didn't say that really.... But, the "Redneck OKIE" came out in me and there was a challenge thrown down...Outside and let's get a little closer my friend.....We step out, he took off his Cheesey Leather Sport coat....and I showed him just how well I had trained my Great Danes....The words "Sic em"...met a lot to those dogs....he jumped in his little Cheap Corvette and took off...Of yeah, he forgot his girlfriend and that Cheap Coat.....Yeah, I had her wait outside until he came back......She was a cute Girl but, it was a cheap Jacket.....

I'd loved to have seen that from a distance..........My daughter is a teacher and i hear some storys also.............did you keep the cheesey jacket?????????

[papaOU]

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