OKC Vs. Tulsa

[shartel_ave]

lol OKC proper is bigger in land area then most other cities + suburbs ... which is why city to city doesn't work ..

21 miles (on a line ) from downtown to the OKC city limit going northeast (which is next to luther)
22miles East on I40 which takes you almost to grand casino
14 miles north which makes OKC north of the middle of edmond (1/2 mile south of covell)
10 miles northwest which takes okc west of piedmont
10 miles west which takes okc past yukon
20 miles southwest which takes okc well past mustang .. (which is surrounded by OKC on all sides the same as war acres/bethany/the village/nichols hills and forest ridge and you don't think those should count)
13 mils going south which takes OKC past moore and makes it border norman

Ok you win, my original comment was about the innovation district aka convergence will eventually be something like Research Triangle Park someday

the edges of the city is like living in the country with about 200 people per square mile average

99% of the population of OKC proper lives in the city center, my neighborhood is over 5k people per square mile.

this is old https://statisticalatlas.com/place/O...ity/Population

last time I comment on this, didn't mean to make this so off topic

[BoulderSooner]

99% of the population of OKC proper lives in the city center, my neighborhood is over 5k people per square mile.

south of I240 and north of I44 are not in the "city center"

and there are tons of people in both .. over 8k a sq mile in part

https://statisticalatlas.com/place/O...data-map/tract

[Jersey Boss]

That's even worse with differing rules on incorporation and self rule. Raleigh's population is contained in 147 sq miles compared to OKC that has annexed everything for 50 miles around.

The city of El Paso city has only 2k fewer people than OKC, would you say it's the same size as Oklahoma City? El Paso's MSA has 869K people to OKC's 1.4 million in the MSA and 1.5 million in the CSA.

The city of Oklahoma City has just 8k fewer people than the District of Columbia. Are Washington and OKC the same size? DC's MSA has 6.4 million people and the CSA is just under TEN MILLION. DC's CSA is about to pass Chicago in size.

What about St Louis? The city of Oklahoma City is twice the size of the city of St Louis. But St Louis metro is twice the size of metro OKC. Same size?

I concede your points. MSA is a better indicator.