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  1. #476

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    I respect anyone that uses a Big Lebowski quote to drive home a point.

  2. #477

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    I think we're talking/thinking about different sides of the same coin. I'm more talking about political warfare with dishonest actors on social media that are having damaging influences on society and you're talking about local officials and journalists censoring people who just disagree with them. I agree with what your point.

  3. #478

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankrutka View Post
    I think we're talking/thinking about different sides of the same coin. I'm more talking about political warfare with dishonest actors on social media that are having damaging influences on society and you're talking about local officials and journalists censoring people who just disagree with them. I agree with what your point.
    I understand but this subject came up in this thread because of Mayor Holt and other locals and that's the sort of thing I'm addressing, not international politics.

  4. #479

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    Looks like MAPS 4 will pass if early results are anything. There still many precincts that still haven’t reported

  5. #480

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    13% of precincts are in and it is up by a 2-to-1 margin. I don't think it's going to be even close to failing....

  6. #481

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    Nearly 70 percent voting yes with 20 percent of precincts reporting. You can almost call it

  7. #482

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    It is pretty much going to pass, congratulations to all who voted yes, I saw pictures of Thunder arena expansion and it looks nice even though I am not a Thunder fan and the other improvements in other areas like streets, etc etc will be much needed

  8. #483

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    This is going to pass with the largest margin of any of the MAPS initiatives, perhaps surpassing the Maps For Kids vote by a full +10%. Wow. Looks like OKC really was hungry for people-centric investment!

  9. #484

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisHayes View Post
    Nearly 70 percent voting yes with 20 percent of precincts reporting. You can almost call it
    You can definitely call it. It's over.

    Remember those who were saying the city must be nervous due to the heavy campaigning even though all polling data showed it passing in a landslide? Well, remember to ignore their insights in the future.

  10. #485

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    People must be generally satisfied with MAPS 3. The streetcar seems like the most divisive aspect of it, but I think everybody liked the park. And the convention center and Omni hotel look really impressive, even if they aren't open yet.

    So following on an apparently successful MAPS 3, and then a bunch of needed community-oriented projects (i.e., not really entertainment focused) looks to be a recipe for success.

  11. #486

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    Lfggggggggggg

  12. #487

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoAko View Post
    This is going to pass with the largest margin of any of the MAPS initiatives, perhaps surpassing the Maps For Kids vote by a full +10%. Wow. Looks like OKC really was hungry for people-centric investment!
    Agree with this.

    Also, there never really seemed to be any sort of organized effort put together by people who were against the initiative. I live in Ward 2, which obviously puts me squarely in the center of the portion of the city which you would expect to support the initiative, but I've also driven pretty much all over the city over the past few weeks, and I'm not sure I can remember seeing a single sign opposing the initiative.

  13. #488

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    Maps 3 had 76K vote. This appears way less it was a bad time to have it imo. It will pass but with a very small vote its not a mandate.

    There are 328k voters total who can vote. So far 28k have voted with 69% of precincts thats small

  14. #489

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    Maps 3 had 76K vote. This appears way less it was a bad time to have it imo. It will pass but with a very small vote its not a mandate.

    There are 328k voters total who can vote. So far 28k have voted with 69% of precincts thats small
    Welcome to local elections. If you want something eye-opening to complain about, you should see the percent of people who vote in our city council elections.....

  15. #490

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    30k with 78% in.

    Its a sad day this vote will be 10% of all voters eligible and less than half the vote as Maps3

    It will be legal but a shame voters don’t vote. Sad

  16. #491

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoAko View Post
    Welcome to local elections. If you want something eye-opening to complain about, you should see the percent of people who vote in our city council elections.....
    I understand but unless big precincts come in its half of Maps 3

    I think timing is bad to get voters out

  17. #492

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    30k with 78% in.

    Its a sad day this vote will be 10% of all voters eligible and less than half the vote as Maps3

    It will be legal but a shame voters don’t vote. Sad
    So sad. So very, very sad. OKC citizens should be forever embarrassed - and filled with a deep sense of shame, sorrow, and grief - that this outcome did not turn out the way OKC Guy has wanted from page 1 of this thread.

  18. #493

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    I think every voter should vote. I don't get upset if they don't. The citizens who voted will be noted. I rode 2 buses to vote.

  19. #494

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKC Guy View Post
    Maps 3 had 76K vote. This appears way less it was a bad time to have it imo. It will pass but with a very small vote its not a mandate.

    There are 328k voters total who can vote. So far 28k have voted with 69% of precincts thats small
    70% is absolutely a mandate, regardless of the number of votes cast. I would expect a similar ratio if the turnout was triple today’s numbers.

  20. #495

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    Mandate doesn't even make sense as a concept here. There's an expectation in the public that if MAPS 4 passes then the MAPS 4 stuff will be delivered... even if it was by a single vote. Again, OKC Guy never wanted MAPS 4 and is now shifting the goal post to concerns with democracy and democratic processes that don't apply.

  21. #496

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    Quote Originally Posted by theanvil View Post
    70% is absolutely a mandate, regardless of the number of votes cast. I would expect a similar ratio if the turnout was triple today’s numbers.
    Wrong

  22. #497

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck5815 View Post
    Wrong
    Go on...

    I honestly don't understand the argument being made here. Are you saying that the city should just do something different with the money than was discussed in the lead up to the election because you think the turn out was too low?

  23. Default Re: Full list of proposed MAPS 4 projects

    Almost 30K less votes than the MAPS 3 vote ten years ago. That's pretty staggering, and sad. I wonder if all the money behind the ads regret going so hard in the paint when it seems now (yes after the fact) it was never in jeopardy.

  24. #499

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    It’s going to be the largest margin in the history of MAPS. If this isn’t a mandate I don’t know what is.

  25. #500

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    It is every citizen's civic duty to vote. If you argue that low voter turnout negates an election you need proof. I took the bus to the polls. The bus ride was free.

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