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  1. #26

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    Hmmm....something tells me this isn't a great idea. This is Oklahoma City.....not Santa Fe or Maui. Too many cheap hotels in the metro to make it worth your while.

    I stayed at a hostel in San Jose, Costa Rica - very nice place - last year and was the only guest the entire five nights I was there. They were hurting. And this is Costa Rica.

    If it's such a groovy idea, why don't one of you cats open one.

  2. #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by John View Post
    One way to partly take care of that would be nobody could stay there with an Oklahoma DL/ID.
    Can you say housing descrimination lawsuit. Plus, how would you know they had an Oklahoma id if they never showed it to you?

    Just how many Europeans are hiking through OKC anyhow. Except for homeless people and drug addicts this place would be empty 99% of the time.

  3. #28

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    SweetNSour, again, most hostelers/international travelers aren't looking for a "cheap motel", but the experience of a hostel. I've talked to/met many people in just the last week that would like to visit OKC if we had a hostel, let alone talked to tons of people on CouchSurfing.com who would love to visit if we had a more welcoming community. The fact is not in our location so much as it is our invititation or lack thereof. Most US hostels are on the coasts because they have great transportation systems. Most international travelers skip most of fly over country because lack of hostels and mass transit systems. We're a good middle of the country stop on major highways, so if we had a hostel, I'm willing to bet we'd catch a lot of these international travelers on a tight budget much more easy than we would with "cheap motels." As Pete mentioned earlier, most of the appeal is the comaraderie with like minded travelers and getting tips on local hangouts and meeting up in groups and exploring, going on cheap tours, etc. This is something I don't see the local motel 6 providing, despite how cheap it may be.

  4. #29

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    no hostels for me after i watched tht movie no thanks.

  5. #30
    SouthsideSooner Guest

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    There just doesn't seem to be much demand for something like this but that couchsurfing website is interesting. Maybe some of you guys who feel like this is something our city is lacking could sign up for that so that we can get a feel for what kind of demand might exist...

  6. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthsideSooner View Post
    There just doesn't seem to be much demand for something like this but that couchsurfing website is interesting. Maybe some of you guys who feel like this is something our city is lacking could sign up for that so that we can get a feel for what kind of demand might exist...
    Several of us are members and use it. My statements above were also based upon couchsurfing.com demands as stated above. I think all you naysayers would be surprised with what a hostel could do for our city. Would there be slow periods, absolutely, but I think the demand would be worth opening one up and would be interested in helping one get off the ground here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    Can you say housing descrimination lawsuit. Plus, how would you know they had an Oklahoma id if they never showed it to you?

    Just how many Europeans are hiking through OKC anyhow. Except for homeless people and drug addicts this place would be empty 99% of the time.
    A business has the right to refuse service to anyone.

    In some seedy areas of Dallas I'm pretty sure that local residents cannot rent rooms at certain hotels to discourage prostitution.

    Personally, I would rather invest my money in something that would attract people WITH money.

  8. #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    Can you say housing descrimination lawsuit. Plus, how would you know they had an Oklahoma id if they never showed it to you?
    There is a hostel in Miami Beach who had that policy. And a hostel isn't 'housing'.

    Most hotels (and hostels, I would assume) ask for a form of ID along with a CC.

  9. #34

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    metro....

    I applaud your efforts but just don't see this ever working.

    I've stayed at a lot of hostels in the last ten years (Tokyo, Sydney, Melbourne, Lugano, Berlin, Paris, Rome, London, Positano, Prague, Kobe, SJ Costa Rica, Granada, Nicaragua, etc, etc) and noticed they were ALL in highly traveled and slightly expensive areas.

    True, hostels are about the networking and exchanging of travel info but how many German kids are swinging through Edmond?

    Couchsurfing was created partly out of need to provide beds in places like Omaha, Fort Wayne, Winnipeg and Tulsa.......areas that can't support hostels.

  10. #35

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    OK - you guys win. In the spirit of hope and change I encourage someone to open a hostel and see if it works. You never know until you try.

    How does this hostel thing work anyhow. Is it basically a room full of bunkbeds that cost like $6 per night?

  11. #36

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    You'd be surprised at the number of people traveling through on extended vacations or "breaks" as Pete stated many rent cars and drive through the country. I have known several who did that in the US just like many Americans have done that type of travel in Europe by rail or car. One of my former co-workers in OKC is a native of Rome and spent a few years traveling around the US before "joining the real world". He is someone who lived in NYC, LA, Yokohama and is now lives in the OKC area, his wife is a Clinton native.

    You never know what that kind of travel will attract, look at how many Europeans come through Oklahoma because of Route 66. I think it would be a good thing.

  12. #37

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    wow some people fear new ideas with out even understanding the concept!

    Hostelling International

    United States Hostels to Reserve Online

    the whole mid section is an opportunity for establishing a hostel

    as for the comment that you're looking for visitors with $$, hmm.

    as for the comment that you're looking for culture, hmm.

  13. #38

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    So...there are no hostels in the middle of the USA? Hmmm. That's weird. I mean, so many European, Aussie and Japanese kids rank us right up there with Phuket and Goa in terms of 'must see' places during their off year.

    If you build it, maybe they will come.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNSourPoke View Post
    So...there are no hostels in the middle of the USA? Hmmm. That's weird. I mean, so many European, Aussie and Japanese kids rank us right up there with Phuket and Goa in terms of 'must see' places during their off year.

    If you build it, maybe they will come.
    I love your name-dropping.

  16. #41

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetNSourPoke View Post
    So...there are no hostels in the middle of the USA? Hmmm. That's weird. I mean, so many European, Aussie and Japanese kids rank us right up there with Phuket and Goa in terms of 'must see' places during their off year.

    If you build it, maybe they will come.
    I believe it is one of those you build it and they will come. Heck, Austin,TX has one, Ohio has some and a few other flyover cities have them. We're not talking about Edmond, OK to the poster above, but putting one in downtown OKC (where there are plenty of walkable attractions to see). Heck, the National Memorial comes to mind of all kinds of international visitors that come here. Edmond would ironically probably be able to support one too by the university since it has a very large international student population. Alas, unless someone is willing to financially back one (don't have the money sorry) then I suppose we'll have to settle for couchsurfing in OKC.

  17. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by so1rfan View Post
    A business has the right to refuse service to anyone.
    Hotels and motels don't. They're governed by federal law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyasooner View Post
    Hotels and motels don't. They're governed by federal law.
    A hotel can refuse to deny accomodations if they reasonably believe a person is unable or unwilling to pay, plan to use the room or premises for an unlawful purpose; or plan to bring a potentially dangerous object onto the premises.

    Also if you could prove that having locals stay creates a nusiance (drunk underage kids), you could set a policy based on that, so long as you enforced it without discrimination.

  19. #44

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    Underage kids don't need a lick of alcohol to be a nuisance.

    Anyone that has been stuck in a room full of German high school kids will tell you how hard it is to get an hour of sleep.

  20. #45

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    It seems the hostel in Portland charges $17 per night. If two people are traveling together they can get a hotel room in OKC for that price.

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerry View Post
    It seems the hostel in Portland charges $17 per night. If two people are traveling together they can get a hotel room in OKC for that price.
    Many who stay in hostels are staying at a hostel for the experience, some have almost a "dorm like" feel and some people really enjoy that and getting to meet other travelers. Most are not going to stay in a hotel even if the price is cheaper because it doesn't come with the same experience. If you are a "private" person the hostel experience is probably not what you would be looking for.

  22. #47

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    Kerry, again what bluedogok says, hostels aren't just about cheap, but about the experience. A couple Japanese or German college kids don't want a cheap fly by night or Motel 6 hotel room in Bethany or S. OKC. They want something in the heart of the action AKA downtown, Bricktown or MidTown where they can easily walk to many attractions and get around.

  23. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluedogok View Post
    You never know what that kind of travel will attract, look at how many Europeans come through Oklahoma because of Route 66. I think it would be a good thing.
    I think Paul McCartney would have extended his stay here by a day or two if he had a hostel to stay in.

  24. #49

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    I've never understood the desire of some hardcore packers to wanna sleep in a dorm room. Maybe showing my age here.

    I traveled with this guy last year in Nicaragua that wanted to stay in a dorm room in Granada because it was $3 vs. the $6 for the two beds single.

    Some dodgy and cheap cats sleeping in the dorms.

  25. #50

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    If someone wants to sleep in an open dorm environment more power to them. I am only saying it isnt for me and I don't think a hostel in OKC would be a success, by any standard. If someone with the resources does think it is a viable enterprise I encourage them to give it a shot.

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