Expressjet to start n/s service to/from OKC

[mranderson]

Please just answer the question. That is all I ask.

[chrisok]

The interactive route map shows flights to/from TUL.

I agree CRP, MSY, and COS could be nice additions. I'd also like to see maybe BHM, and RDU, especially if US doesn't add CLT.

Sorry about that. I wasn't really thinking when I typed.

Let me try it again....

I agree Corpus Christi, New Orleans, and Colorado Springs could make nice additions. I'd also like to see maybe Birmingham, and Raleigh/Durham, especially if US Airways doesn't add Charlotte.

That probably makes more sense.

[jbrown84]

Thanks, but I had already used my Super Spy Magic Decoder Ring to figure it out.

[chrisok]

Hang on to that, they come in handy.

[jbrown84]

I'm actually getting ready to head out to ZPT on a FW flight with a layover in QTB. It was supposed to be UGV, but they changed it due to some problems with the KJ-103's.

[Karried]

LOL.... have a safe flight.

Actually I think metro was asking that 'all' (meaning everyone) replying to this post use layman terms .. or spell out the airport/cities instead of the codes.

But, airport codes can be found almost on nearly every travel site or here:

Welcome to airport city codes.com!

[venture]

~~sigh~~

I was really hoping for a non-stop to DCA.

I am so tired of having to take a day to travel to Washington!

Lauri,

Washington would be a great city...but we'll see. They have their niche cut out pretty well it seems, but I wouldn't doubt we'll see the bigger cities added in a bit later.

[venture]

Tulsa is not listed as a non-stop from OKC. They have service with ExpressJet, but not to and from Oklahoma City. At least, that's according to this:

Destination List From OKC

Oklahoma City, OK (OKC)
Albuquerque, NM ------ April 16
Austin, TX ------------ April 23
Ontario, CA ----------- April 16
Sacramento, CA ------- May 7
San Antonio, TX ------- TBA
San Diego, CA --------- May 7

Venture, do you know if they had Tulsa on the route schedule, but removed it?

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I'm going to assume Tulsa is a positioning flight or there is a flight from TUL that will stop in OKC and continue on somewhere. Much like what Delta use to do on a couple flights that ran...Salt Lake City - Oklahoma City/Tulsa - Atlanta and back.

[Karried]

I just wish I could have had a non stop to New Orleans next week .. I have to stop in Tennessee both ways.. oh well, I've never been to Memphis so it might be interesting.

Still, what a waste of time, getting on and off, just wish it was one straight shot.. take off, fly and land.. that's the way I like it.

[venture]

I just wish I could have had a non stop to New Orleans next week .. I have to stop in Tennessee both ways.. oh well, I've never been to Memphis so it might be interesting.

Still, what a waste of time, getting on and off, just wish it was one straight shot.. take off, fly and land.. that's the way I like it.

Memphis isn't too bad to transit through. Did it once. The NW hub is somewhat in need of upgrades, but its not jammed back like O'Hare or Atlanta. I tend to prefer the smaller hubs than the big ones.

Enjoy your trip to New Orleans. Who knows, if XJet can get the demand they are looking for from OKC...we'll pick up a nonstop down there again. However, this will mean people in this city must use the new service (or lose it). Tremendous opportunity here to take the lead for a "new" airline.

[Karried]

That's good.. I'm only there for a half hour but the hassle of it is a pain..

I tried to support Allegiant Air by going to Vegas as much as I could.. didn't work - ugh.

[venture]

Looks like flight frequencies should average 2-3 flights a day on all routes. Definitely a smart choice.

[brianinok]

Looks like flight frequencies should average 2-3 flights a day on all routes. Definitely a smart choice.

That is good. There should be some good times to fly, then. That means that they will have between, what, 14-21 flights a day? I wonder how many gates they are planning to lease at WRWA.

venture, do you know if they will be listed on sites like Orbitz and Expedia, or will they only sell online through their website like Southwest does? I just checked Orbitz online for a flight to San Diego in May and they weren't listed (I may just be too early).

Interestingly, though, Frontier Airlines showed up first with a flight that stops in Denver. The flight from OKC to Denver was on an A319. Looks like they will begin flying 1 mainline a day to OKC. The flight arrives in OKC from Denver at 11:45PM and leaves for Denver at 6:00AM the next morning.

[familyguy]

Tulsa may be more of a connecting route. Kind of way Delta used to do it. Say you needed to get to some city, but couldn't get the earlier flight n/s from OKC. Just hop on the flight to Tulsa and go from there. (Or the other way around.)

I'm going to assume Tulsa is a positioning flight or there is a flight from TUL that will stop in OKC and continue on somewhere. Much like what Delta use to do on a couple flights that ran...Salt Lake City - Oklahoma City/Tulsa - Atlanta and back.

Looks like a consensus.

[Kerry]

Why do people hate RJs so much? I fly on them on occasion and prefer them. I get on faster, off faster, get my luggage faster, and sometimes have a row to myself if there is only one seat.

[chrisok]

I think RJ's are better than nothing or turboprops, however there are a couple of things I don't like. First, the lack of first class on them annoys me. Although, some are starting to offer it. The other reason is comfort. I'm 6'7", therefore it's a tight fit. (Especially in Embraer jets)

[OUman]

^Back in the 90's, DL's TUL-OKC flight was part of a multi-airport route that was operated with a 737 or 727-Atlanta-Tulsa-Oklahoma City-Salt Lake City-San Jose. (Back the same way as well). I flew several times via Tulsa in my travels.

[venture]

That is good. There should be some good times to fly, then. That means that they will have between, what, 14-21 flights a day? I wonder how many gates they are planning to lease at WRWA.

venture, do you know if they will be listed on sites like Orbitz and Expedia, or will they only sell online through their website like Southwest does? I just checked Orbitz online for a flight to San Diego in May and they weren't listed (I may just be too early).

Interestingly, though, Frontier Airlines showed up first with a flight that stops in Denver. The flight from OKC to Denver was on an A319. Looks like they will begin flying 1 mainline a day to OKC. The flight arrives in OKC from Denver at 11:45PM and leaves for Denver at 6:00AM the next morning.

I wouldn't expect them to go more than 2 gates, more than likely just 1. Don't be shocked to see them stick some stairs at the end of the bridge and board from the ramp so they can park 2-3 planes at a single gate.

From the way it sounds, the flights will be loaded into the major reservation systems, so Orbitz and Expedia will likely pick up on them.

Frontier's A319 has been running for about a month now...definitely a great choice. Even better news is when the route will get one of the Embraer 170s with the new affliate (Republic) coming on board to operate Jet Express. Will be a HUGE improvement over the CRJs. Can't wait to get my first ride on one since the reviews are just amazing...at least the US Airways ones.

[venture]

^Back in the 90's, DL's TUL-OKC flight was part of a multi-airport route that was operated with a 737 or 727-Atlanta-Tulsa-Oklahoma City-Salt Lake City-San Jose. (Back the same way as well). I flew several times via Tulsa in my travels.

The craziest I probably saw was a 727 in the mid 90s that Delta ran...Toledo>Atlanta>Birmingham>Jackson (MS)>Dallas/Fort Worth>Salt Lake City>Reno.

All under one flight number. Flash back to the old days of air travel.

[Karried]

The above is why I'm leery to book any flights through Priceline.. although the price is good, a 2 hour flight could turn into a 24 hour trip as I jet around the USA to visit various airports.... no thanks.

[OUman]

I wouldn't expect them to go more than 2 gates, more than likely just 1. Don't be shocked to see them stick some stairs at the end of the bridge and board from the ramp so they can park 2-3 planes at a single gate.

From the way it sounds, the flights will be loaded into the major reservation systems, so Orbitz and Expedia will likely pick up on them.

Frontier's A319 has been running for about a month now...definitely a great choice. Even better news is when the route will get one of the Embraer 170s with the new affliate (Republic) coming on board to operate Jet Express. Will be a HUGE improvement over the CRJs. Can't wait to get my first ride on one since the reviews are just amazing...at least the US Airways ones.

The 319 is the 6:00a.m. departure from OKC. I think F9 just brings it in on the last flight from DEN and lets the plane sit at OKC overnight.

As for Expressjet, some of these routes might be only once-daily depending on the pax traffic volume. So no more than two gates, and now that DL and DL Connection are operating at the new gates in the main terminal's airside (20, 22 and 24-again, beats me as to why they're numbered that way, it's misleading), there are three empty gates in the west concourse that can be used. So not necessarily that Expressjet will stack two or more RJ's on the same ramp.

Embraer's new E-jet models are built using a double-bubble fuselage, so while the same four-abreast config is kept, the wider fuselage means wider seats and the increased length means a little more legrom as well. I'm not surprised pax like it.

[chrisok]

If I remember correctly, Frontier had mainlines here when they started up service to OKC, but quickly dropped them for CRJ's. I was glad to see they started back with one.

The new Embraers are much more roomy. A vast improvement over CRJ's and the Emb 135/145's. However, they're still not as nice as NW/XJ's RJ-85. May it rest in peace. (or in Europe.....where they actually went.)

[OUman]

^It's Mesaba which operates the Avroliner 85s. Mesaba still operates the Avros, but they're going to be replaced by 76-seat CRJ 900's (which have business class) as Northwest has agreed to buy out Mesaba (or has already done so). The Avros will be parked in the desert and some of those may go to small regional operators around the world.

You're right, F9 had two daily 737-200s between OKC and DEN (for about 6 months IIRC) before Frontier Jet Express replaced those.

[chrisok]

Dec 1 was the last day for the Avros. it was supposed to be Dec 19, but they moved it up. I believe the last flight was Rochester to Detroit. Last I heard was that the Avros were going to be purchased by Cityjet. The planes are pretty common over in Europe where there are a lot more short flights which makes the Avros more profitable.

[venture]

The BAe-146/Avroliner line was a niche jet that tried to make it big. It is a perfect STOL aircraft for those small airports that need jet service, and also good for noise sensitive airports. Unfortunately...that really limits it to the Ski Resorts and some California airports in the US. Most other airports are able to be served by other aircraft. Europe has a much bigger need for these, and that is why they'll keep living on there for a few more years.