4th and Broadway

[TStheThird]

My sister dates Hill Peyton, the younger one. They also own resorts.

[metro]

Kerry, they actually built a similar Wal-Mart here in Edmond and it will be a upscale retail center as well with other shops surrounding the Wal-Mart. Either way Tampa or Wal-Mart don't relate to 4th and Broadway in downtown OKC.

[ChristianConservative]

Kerry, they actually built a similar Wal-Mart here in Edmond and it will be a upscale retail center as well with other shops surrounding the Wal-Mart. Either way Tampa or Wal-Mart don't relate to 4th and Broadway in downtown OKC.

I've been in this Wal-Mart and it's no different than any other Wal-Mart. The facade is just fake stucco. I don't see how anyone can consider a strip center with a Wal-Mart upscale.

[BDP]

Everything is upscale these days, CC.

[Spartan]

The facade is just fake stucco.

I believe the stuff is EIFS, though I don't go to Edmond just for the Stuporcenters. Exterior Insulation and Finish Systems, a very creative term...commonly referred to as Synthetic Stucco.

[metro]

I've been in this Wal-Mart and it's no different than any other Wal-Mart. The facade is just fake stucco. I don't see how anyone can consider a strip center with a Wal-Mart upscale.

I never used the word upscale if you'll re-read my post you quoted. I just stated the one in Edmond is similar to the one previously mentioned out of state.

[Midtowner]

posted in the wrong thread.

[BDP]

I never used the word upscale if you'll re-read my post you quoted.

they actually built a similar Wal-Mart here in Edmond and it will be a upscale retail center as well with other shops surrounding the Wal-Mart.

I'm thinking 4th and Broadway is getting an upscale retail center, possibly with a Wal-Mart.

They will use upscale stucco.

[Centerback]

I own a parking lot on 4th just west of Broadway and I know nothing other than that lot will be there for at least 14 years.

[Spartan]

You know this because of the deed? And ye has never heard of a buy-out? It's called development. You ever watch Trump?

[Midtowner]

You know this because of the deed? And ye has never heard of a buy-out? It's called development. You ever watch Trump?

Unless that lot is found to be 'blighted' which I don't think you can do, it cannot be "bought out" as you say. You can't buy from an unwilling seller. If there really are plans as you say, I'd be pretty shocked that someone has gone through an significant amount of planning without even informing the present owner that they intend to tender an offer for the land.

Spartan, it appears so far that you're making this up. You've offered no substantial evidence, none of the land records indicate that property in that area has changed hands recently.

Maybe one of Anderson's major league commissioner buddies could give you some insight into this?

[Centerback]

I assure you I've heard of many more things to obtain possesion than a buyout.

I'm quite certain that with the deed, and current lease that is in place that no one, not even Mr. Trump has any intentions of doing anything with the property to which I referred.

In addition, neither I nor my attorney has been contacted about this property for any purpose.

[BDP]

Ok, since I guessed "nothing", do I win?

[metro]

Unless that lot is found to be 'blighted' which I don't think you can do, it cannot be "bought out" as you say. You can't buy from an unwilling seller. If there really are plans as you say, I'd be pretty shocked that someone has gone through an significant amount of planning without even informing the present owner that they intend to tender an offer for the land.

Spartan, it appears so far that you're making this up. You've offered no substantial evidence, none of the land records indicate that property in that area has changed hands recently.

Maybe one of Anderson's major league commissioner buddies could give you some insight into this?

Good one, perhaps mr.anderson and spartan are going to build that MLB stadium after all, at 4th and Broadway. and then mranderson will get elected to city council after all.

[metro]

Rumor has it that the Greater OKC Chamber of Commerce is going to build new digs here. I found out who owns this land (OPUBCO). If this is true it really sucks because this is one of very few park areas downtown. In fact other than the Memorial and Myriad Gardens it really is the only park area. It's perfect for outdoor performances such as the DeadCENTER film festival. I hope this is not true but I've heard this from more than one source.

Oklahoma County Assessor Online Mapping

Leonard Sullivan Oklahoma County Assessor Real Property Detail Sheet

Furthermore, if you go to the Chambers website, look who you'll find on their executive committee, David Thompson and Clay Bennett. Both with OPUBCO affiliation.

Greater Oklahoma City Chamber - About the Chamber - Executive Committee

[Kerry]

Don't worry about downtown park space - lots coming in Core to Shore.

[metro]

Yeah in 10-15 years. Funny you mention Core to Shore Kerry. Look who's the big promoter of it. The Chamber of Commerce. If they are such visionaries and promoting it, they should take the lead and build in the Core to Shore area.

[betts]

Are we sure this isn't planned for the parking lots on the west side of Broadway there? Aren't they for sale? That seems like a more likely site.

[Turanacus]

Sandridge is going to demo about 3 buildings in the Kerr McGee complex and do some very advanced design ideas. It's not at 4th and Broadway so my guess is . . . . PF Changs.

[jbrown84]

What kind of facility are they building? That lot is far to close to the CBD for some 2 story building.

[jbrown84]

It's not at 4th and Broadway so my guess is . . . . PF Changs.

what????

[Turanacus]

What the CDB is?

[solitude]

I'm confused. Isn't 4th & Broadway the old home of The Daily Oklahoman and headquarters of all things OPUBCO until they moved out on Broadway? Where is the park space? I can just picture the old building on the NE corner. It was a big deal back in the day to say that all the problems in OKC start and end at '4th and Broadway'.

[metro]

solitude, the green space we're referring to is between 4th and 3rd. It's where Broadway curves slightly. If you click the link I provided above, it will take you to the county assessor's site where there is a picture of the land plot. It will make sense. Anyhow, OPUBCO (The Oklahoman's entity) owns the greenspace in addition to the old Oklahoman/Times building. Pretty solid information I've heard regarding the Chamber rumor. Makes even more sense when you see who owns it and who's on the board of the chamber. Click on the links I provided above.

[tuck]

Its a done deal...they have been interviewing architects/contractors.