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    In its own way, the Beacon of Hope is the kind of landmark comparable to the St. Louis Arch and San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge, said James Pickel, co-owner of Smith and Pickel Construction Co.
    I think statements like that is what has really hurt this project. Even if it is really nice, it has been way oversold. Clearly, it is a nice small attraction, but not a defining landmark like the ones above. At it's current visibility it will never be a symbol instantly recognized and associated with the city as the GG bridge and the STL arch are. Suggesting that it will be trivializes it and seems silly.

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    This seems to be a classic example of the buyer skimping on the funds to do the job right. They're probably too cheap to pay what it costs to make this a real landmark.

    To the poster above who suggested this has been "oversold," RIGHT ON.

    We were promised a landmark visible for miles and we end up with something that isn't even as noticeable as CityWalk's "Beacon for Hos."

    Too bad. This was a great concept, it was just very poorly executed.

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    darktowerjunkie12 Guest

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerguru
    This seems to be a classic example of the buyer skimping on the funds to do the job right. They're probably too cheap to pay what it costs to make this a real landmark.
    the people that paid for this just donated to get their name on the sign and to be able to say that they had a part in it...just ONE of the people that donated probably could have paid for it theirselves...i don't think it was a question of skimping...

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    I drove by today, as I'm a medical student at the HSC. Although I didn't see it at night, I wanted to see what it looked like during the day. I do agree that comparing this to the St. Louis arch is a joke. I mean, it's just a tube sticking up out of the ground, and it's not very tall.

    I walked around the so-called park. What park are you referring to? There's some nice grass and some paver stones around the beacon, but there's really nothing else there.

    I think for the $250,000 or whatever they spent, the money should've gone to creating a real park, instead of a laughing stock beacon. There still isn't a park at Stiles "Park." If we're going to create a real park there, we need playground equipment, picnic tables, benches, walking trails, etc. Right now, most of Stiles Park is simply wasteland, except for the small round-a-bout where the beacon sits.

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    Patrick Guest

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    I'll go by tomorrow and take a picture just to show everyone how big of a joke this is.

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    darktowerjunkie12 Guest

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    I don't think it was meant to be a "park" as in the real sense of the word...it's meant as a place to reflect...there are alot of "parks" in america that has not one piece of playground equipment and it's not like there is a whole lot of room to do a whole lot with...i mean it's a 50' circle at the most i would imagine...and there are benches there...there are in fact 4

  7. #32

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    playground equipment
    [cringe] Nothing ruins a good park like playground equipment.


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    darktowerjunkie12 Guest

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    lol

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    Patrick Guest

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    Here's a picture of it being brought it on a semi trailer! Guess, that gives you the idea of the size of this thing! Let's try putting the St. Louis arch on a trailer!



    Here's a pic of in it place:





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    Thanks Patrick, cool pics - great concept, still a work in progress I hope -

    I still vote to change the light to a brighter white light - what's the point of a green light (even if it chosen by the designer) if you can't even see the beam?
    " You've Been Thunder Struck ! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karried
    Thanks Patrick, cool pics - great concept, still a work in progress I hope -

    I still vote to change the light to a brighter white light - what's the point of a green light (even if it chosen by the designer) if you can't even see the beam?
    I agree.

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    Patrick Guest

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    I'll try to stop by tomorrow and get some pics of what the park actually looks like now. I'll post them.

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    Patrick Guest

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    Here are some pics at night. As you can see, you can see the top of the tube okay, but you really can't see a beam coming off of it. I'll try to take some pics from a distance.




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    I think the whole thing comes down to this:

    This project's outright success or mediocrity seems to hinge
    on one thing:

    How far does the green pencil-wide beam reach up into the sky.......??

    There's probably a trillion reasons why this beam didn't do what it was
    envisioned to do...my theory is that the dichroic glass filter actually "diffused"
    the light, taking that pencil wide beam and turning it into a 3 foot wide beam.....
    and a weaker one at that....

    However:

    I don't lay that at the feet of the designer.......

    Whoever the manufacturer was of that fixture is going to hear some grief from Rand
    Elliott......and my suspicion is, they'll give him a bunch of excuses and in the end,
    Mr. Elliott will rally some of the benefactors into using another manufacturer
    who will "guarantee" that their green beam of light will be visible hundreds
    of feet in the night sky....

    As to comparisons with the World Trade Center Tribute, we should bear
    in mind that the lighting inside this tube is approximately 1/160th of the
    power of the ARRAY of 88 fixtures that made up the Tribute

    Here's a page with some photos that show just "how many" fixtures it took
    to make up that display, and oddly enough....to me, even that didn't look
    as bright as I thought it would.....

    http://www.spacecannon.it/Img_Galler...York_event.htm

    So:

    1/160th the light of that display and filtering it to be green.....those
    two things alone would make me "shocked" if you could see it up broadway extension....
    but there's actually one more reason:

    These types of light fixtures are actually not visible in and of themselves....their
    light output being visible hundreds of feet in the air is actually a function of them
    illuminating the "dust" in the air.....notice I didn't say clouds....

    In Los Angeles, I can promise you this display would be more visible......
    but we actually have fairly clean air, especially this time of year.........

    If you go out to Stiles Park at night and look up in the sky from that vantage point,
    it really is a very cool display to see the green reaching up into the sky....

    but everyone is correct to say this thing was overpromised.......

    but:

    We had a field before.......and despite it's shortcoming, I think the area is
    very beautiful.....and impressive......I do wish they'd get rid of the ugly donor wall
    at some point......people who donate money to these types of things should
    stipulate that their donating be done under the radar without a gaudy sign to
    screw up the reverence of the design....

    I still think Rand Elliott is one of the 10 or 15 most talented architects in the U.S.
    and certainly the most talented in Oklahoma by a very wide margin....

    Someone selling him a pig in a poke light fixture won't change that......and
    I just bet as I said above, that he puts some significant pressure
    on that company to deliver what was promised....

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    Patrick Guest

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    Problem is Randy sounded like he was happy with the project. Not sure if he doesn't have eyes or what, but you simply can't see the beam from miles away. If he isn't aware of that, someone needs to tell him.

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    Perhaps a blue light would beam further into the sky at night like the one in NYC. That is what ours is supposed to look like. Surely, the architect has seen what it looks like at night. If I were to design something like that, I know I would want to see it every night that I had a chance.

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    Patrick, I think it should be clarified that the only piece of land designated as Stiles Park is the inside of the roundabout. If you look on maps that is what is shown as Stiles Park. The land around it may be barren like much of that area but it's because it's undeveloped.

    My dad is a professor at the HSC and he thinks a nice hotel should be built in that area for scientists visiting the Research Park and potential residents and med students visiting the campus.
    Don't Edmond My Downtown

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    I drove by last night, its definetely the green light that keeps you from seeing it from a distance, it looks really cool up close but you can barely notice it from deep deuce just 3 blocks away. we should rally rand elliot and party to change the color or get higher wattage bulbs

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    Patrick Guest

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    Here are some more pictures that I took today. This way you get an idea of what the area looks like.






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    A friend from school (a Texan) saw the beacon and was really impressed, and he told me it was really bright, so I thought maybe they had made some changes.

    I drove by tonight at 10 or 10:30 and it wasn't even on! What is going on with this thing? I'm very disappointed.
    Don't Edmond My Downtown

  21. #46

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    Nothing better to remember 'ol Gaylord by than a giant phallus.

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    Urban Pioneer Guest

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    I saw it during testing. They had the green lense off. It was pure white light. You could see it for miles. You know, when you add color to light, it immediatley looses 40% of its candle power. Green is somewhere around 50%. I wish Rand would take that lense off. The electricians were in there fooling around. I actually got to go inside of it and look at the light. If it wasn't green--- it would work.

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    urban address Guest

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    I have a lot of respect for Rand Elliott and his work, but has anyone else noticed the "beacon" looks like the end of a hypodermic needle? Probably another tie-in to the medical community, but perhaps it should be re-named...a "Shot in the Park."

  24. #49
    Jack Guest

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    I don't see why everyone got so excited about this. It's nothing spectacular. Not even the architecture. Folks, it was brought in on a flat bed semi. Give me a break.

  25. #50
    Patrick Guest

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    I know the green light was a good idea, but I agree with you guys.....let's remove the green lens and make this a real attraction that can be seen all around the downtown area.

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