SH 74 Widening

[mmonroe]

.... all while bridges and other road ways suffer in disrepair ... ODOT...

[bradh]

.... all while bridges and other road ways suffer in disrepair ... ODOT...

It's a delicate balance. Trust me ODOT is fixing PLENTY of bridges statewide, the majority of every month's letting is bridge repair work.

[OUGrad05]

.... all while bridges and other road ways suffer in disrepair ... ODOT...

Traffic up there can be pretty rough, finding a balance is tough.

[rezman]

Saw them unloading bull dozers yesterday. Looks like construction is about to begin.

Went through the area several times this weekend, to and from home. Didn't see a thing. At least not south of 178th. Are they starting north of there?

[hfry]

The bulldozers are about a half mile south of 150th on the west side of the road. By the old house/ shack that has been falling down for the last decade.

[rezman]

The bulldozers are about a half mile south of 150th on the west side of the road. By the old house/ shack that has been falling down for the last decade.

Don't know how I missed that, as I went right by there.... Must be getting blind.

Went by there twice today and there are about a dozen pieces of equipment staged where the two lane turns to four.

[hfry]

I missed it probably 3 times and it was later that day when they finally stood out. I am excited for them to start getting to work, especially since most of the work shouldn't disrupt traffic.

[timothy.a.owen]

Is this what the signs for Construction Starting 2/2/15 are for on 74? The signs start around Hefner or Britton?!

[C_M_25]

Does anybody know how this is going to impact traffic flow? It seems like it should be minimal at least until they build the pieces that connect the old highway with the new.

What is their plan of execution?

[bradh]

Is this what the signs for Construction Starting 2/2/15 are for on 74? The signs start around Hefner or Britton?!

Yes

[Plutonic Panda]

Does anybody know how this is going to impact traffic flow? It seems like it should be minimal at least until they build the pieces that connect the old highway with the new.

What is their plan of execution?

This article outlines it pretty well.

The project, which widens S.H. 74 from two to four lanes divided, will reconstruct the S.H. 74/N.W. 164th Street intersection and construct a S.H. 74 bridge over N.W. 150th Street as well as ramps to and from north and southbound S.H. 74 and N.W. 150th Street The project also adds service roads on both sides of the highway to allow for access to local businesses and to accommodate future growth in the area while keeping SH-74 safe.

The upcoming project is the third of four in the corridor, with an additional project scheduled for 2017 to reconstruct and widen S.H. 74 from just north of 164th Street, north 2.5 miles to N.W. 206th (Covell Road.) These projects will complete the widening of S.H. 74 from Memorial Road to Waterloo Road in order to meet the traffic needs of this growing area. Including completed and upcoming projects, an estimated $125 million will have been invested in projects to widen and improve the S.H. 74 corridor in this area.

Northbound and southbound S.H. 74 will remain open during construction, but short-term closures of N.W. 150th Street and N.W. 164th Street can be expected at times. Daily traffic advisories will be sent out by ODOT to inform drivers of traffic changes or short-term lane closures as the project progresses.

- ODOT plans to widen State Highway 74 - The Edmond Sun: Local News

[Plutonic Panda]

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/newsm..._scheduled.pdf

[TheTravellers]

On NW 164th westbound, starting at Okalee Lane (about halfway between May and Penn), there's a sign that says "Work Zone, blahblah", then a bit further west, it says "Road Construction 1 Mile". Seriously?!?!?!? A "Work Zone" starting more than a mile from where the actual work is going to take place? What's the purpose of that (other than possibly increased revenue due to cops/the city seeing an opportunity)?

[Roger S]

A "Work Zone" starting more than a mile from where the actual work is going to take place? What's the purpose of that (other than possibly increased revenue due to cops/the city seeing an opportunity)?

An opportunity to enforce the law? *GASP* How dare they try to stop the rule breakers!!!

For most Oklahoma distracted drivers. One mile is not nearly enough warning for them. They will still be merging at the last second and speeding through the zones.

[bradh]

If a little further west than halfway between Penn & May says "Road Construction 1 mile" that doesn't sound out of the ordinary. If you're at May you are essentially 1 mile from 74, and that's where the work is. The entire project goes up to the 74 and NW 164th intersection.

[jn1780]

On NW 164th westbound, starting at Okalee Lane (about halfway between May and Penn), there's a sign that says "Work Zone, blahblah", then a bit further west, it says "Road Construction 1 Mile". Seriously?!?!?!? A "Work Zone" starting more than a mile from where the actual work is going to take place? What's the purpose of that (other than possibly increased revenue due to cops/the city seeing an opportunity)?

What's the issue? The sign is saying 1 mile until you actually reach the work zone. Not that anyone actually pays attention to them. That's why they had to come up with the State Law: Merge Now signs.

The higher fines don't start until you actually enter the work zone.

[Plutonic Panda]

An opportunity to enforce the law? *GASP* How dare they try to stop the rule breakers!!!

For most Oklahoma distracted drivers. One mile is not nearly enough warning for them. They will still be merging at the last second and speeding through the zones.

I see. So in your logic, they can't enforce the law without construction zone? I guess you enjoy speed limits intentionally set lower than engineer recommended surveys in order to gain more revenue. It isn't just Oklahoma drivers who merge at the last second, it happens in every city.

If you think people in Oklahoma are rude drivers and go fast, you haven't seem anything. I wish people here would drive way faster than they actually do. It's nice to go to Dallas with people going 10-15 over the limit for a change.

There is a difference between driving stupid and driving fast.

[Roger S]

I see. So in your logic, they can't enforce the law without construction zone? I guess you enjoy speed limits intentionally set lower than engineer recommended surveys in order to gain more revenue. It isn't just Oklahoma drivers who merge at the last second, it happens in every city.

If you think people in Oklahoma are rude drivers and go fast, you haven't seem anything. I wish people here would drive way faster than they actually do. It's nice to go to Dallas with people going 10-15 over the limit for a change.

There is a difference between driving stupid and driving fast.

I do my very best to be a responsible driver and obey the posted speed limits whether I agree with them or not.

You on the other hand believe yourself to be above the law. I won't even attempt to argue logic with an admitted outlaw.

[TheTravellers]

What's the issue? The sign is saying 1 mile until you actually reach the work zone. Not that anyone actually pays attention to them. That's why they had to come up with the State Law: Merge Now signs.

The higher fines don't start until you actually enter the work zone.

No, the sign opposite of Okalee Lane says "Work Zone", it does not say "Work Zone in one mile", I'm pretty sure about that. That's the issue.

[TheTravellers]

An opportunity to enforce the law? *GASP* How dare they try to stop the rule breakers!!!

For most Oklahoma distracted drivers. One mile is not nearly enough warning for them. They will still be merging at the last second and speeding through the zones.

See my other reply for why I have a problem with the "Work Zone" sign.

As far as enforcing the law, you have to go another 1/2 mile from the "Work Zone" sign, then through the May/164th intersection, then another (probably) 3/4 mile before you actually would get to any area under construction, just seems excessively long. 164th is only 2 lanes from May to Portland, so there's not really any merging at the last second (but I have no idea how they're going to do the construction, and probably never will because I will not go through any of that area while under construction, I'm not a masochist).

[Plutonic Panda]

Well, I'm apparently an admitted outlaw, so stay away from me. Because I go 10 over, I'm some dangerous fiend that needs to be stopped.

[TheTravellers]

Well, I'm apparently an admitted outlaw, so stay away from me. Because I go 10 over, I'm some dangerous fiend that needs to be stopped.

*I'll* race ya...

[Roger S]

Well, I'm apparently an admitted outlaw, so stay away from me. Because I go 10 over, I'm some dangerous fiend that needs to be stopped.

No apparently about it. You just admitted it again.

I can say I've been there and done that myself when I was your age.... Then one day you mature.... Hopefully.

[Roger S]

As far as enforcing the law, you have to go another 1/2 mile from the "Work Zone" sign, then through the May/164th intersection, then another (probably) 3/4 mile before you actually would get to any area under construction, just seems excessively long.

Personally I don't mind the advance notice. It gives me more time to prepare for the drivers that are oblivious to the warnings until the last second.

[Plutonic Panda]

No apparently about it. You just admitted it again.

I can say I've been there and done that myself when I was your age.... Then one day you mature.... Hopefully.

maybe. There is a ton of people who go 10-15 over the limit and older people do it to. I go under the speed limit in school zones and residential near parks and such, but I fail to see the issue of going 85 in a 70 which is common place in a lot of other cities. I was very surprised to see how fast people drove in St. Louis.