2 Million Year Old Rock Formation Pushed Over

[Just the facts]

Seeing as how the formation was caused by erosion, and erosion is a continual process the formation was at most a few minutes old. Felony? No, as that has way to many negative side effects that will essentially punish them for the rest of their lives. I think a heafty fine and a few hundred hours of community service related to the subject would do the trick.

[kelroy55]

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but who the hell cares. It's a rock, and a small one at that! Maybe banning them from ever coming back to the park, but felony charges!? Really!!!!

I agree with you about the felony charges but I think a fine and community service would be appropriate.

[ThomPaine]

Plupan, no offense but the Grand Canyon is just a big hole in the ground. I'm not saying the charge are warranted or will stick but that is a much too cavalier attitude about our natural wonders. There are very good reasons for strict rules in our parks if we want to protect them for the future.

Thanks, I did not reply because I was having trouble framing my response in a civil tone. Like JTF, I'm not sure a felony charge is warranted, but if those two geniuses truly are Boy Scout leaders, they should have known not to take it upon themselves to alter the landscape of a state park in a permanent way, and maybe this can be a learning experience for the Scouts they "lead."

Otherwise, some idiot in Northern California might be heard to say: "Hey! That Redwood look like it's leanin' to you? That damned thing could fall and squish some little kid, or hurt a spotted owl. Bring me my chainsaw."

I mean, it's just a tree.

[RadicalModerate]

These guys probably think that in order to be an Eagle Scout, you need to kill and mount a Bald Eagle.
After all . . . It's just a bird. btw: "Mount" in this example means taxidermy. I think.
(And before that, you need to get some Merit Badges for Criminal Mischief.)

Rocks
by Bob Kilmer (Joyce Kilmer's sister)

I think that I shall never balk
At poems written for a rock

A rock whose lumpy wholeness stands
On ocean shores and desert sands

A rock so quiet and serene
To tip a rock is just damn mean

A rock that may in summer wear
A bit of hair scraped from a bear

Upon whose craggy features group
Lichens, bugs, and dried up bird poop

Poems are made by those who talk
But only God can make a rock.


Rock On . . . Tipped Rock

[kevinpate]

Of course some one has to make this baseless statement.

Baseless? Are you suggesting the rocks were there for less time?

[kevinpate]

...
Dude, it isn't "the rock" it's "the roll" . . .

rotcflmbo

[Garin]

Two million years old And that's all the erosion that existed ? I'm call bulls

[RadicalModerate]

Oh yeah? Well, I call Shenanigans! =)


That Public Service Announcement brought to you by The Sierra Club
Next time you think about tipping over a rock, think again.

I hope that there is no truth to the rumor that security has been doubled at Pivot Rock, near Eureka Springs, Arkansas. If it is true it means that the eco-terrorists, posing as Boy Scout Leaders, have won.

In any case, The Rock Abides.

[Bunty]

May God forbid someone want to move on to bigger things by toppling Balanced Rock in the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. I haven't seen it in over 10 years.

[Zack232]

Baseless? Are you suggesting the rocks were there for less time?

haha no, that's an odd assumption. I'm not trying to start anything or be rude, but if one "discounts science" and believes the earth is only ~10,000 years old, they are laughably wrong. I'm not saying you fall into this category of people, because you just said the rock was in place for that length of time, but it seems you were referring to the "young vs old earth" argument. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

[RadicalModerate]

haha no, that's an odd assumption. I'm not trying to start anything or be rude, but if one "discounts science" and believes the earth is only ~10,000 years old, they are laughably wrong. I'm not saying you fall into this category of people, because you just said the rock was in place for that length of time, but it seems you were referring to the "young vs old earth" argument. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

That is perfectly clear.
Please continue to refrain from tipping over rocks.
Especially if you are a Scout or Leader thereof.
Thank you, in advance.
For compliance.
And concern.
Amen.

[RadicalModerate]

May God forbid someone want to move on to bigger things by toppling Balanced Rock in the Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs. I haven't seen it in over 10 years.

I'm still miffed--in fact, nearly on the verge of pissed--that I won't be able to see The Toppled Rock (pre-toppling) in (was it Utah?) featured in The Outrage du Jour. (but i'll probably get over it . . . unlike the toppled rock =)

Based only upon experience, the crew in the OP would probably fart in The Cave of The Winds.
(and they should be ashamed of that. even without a sign to wonder about)

[Mel]

I hope the punishment is severe. Make people think a little before any copycat action starts. I have absolutely no sympathy for these cretins. The fact that they are Scout "leaders" makes it worse. What part of "Leave No Trace" do they not understand.

[RadicalModerate]

Can they put them on the mound of dirt as a replacement?

They probably could, but then The Crack Law Team from Spiro Mounds would probably file an objection. Or injunction. Or whatever.

For the record, I only made it as far as a Lion's Badge with a couple of arrowheads (in the Cub Scouts, on the cusp of Webelo) yet I agree with CleanSkull:
When it comes to preserving the wilderness for others to enjoy leave no trace of your being there.
Unless, of course, you are a thoughtless slob, in which case you should stick to polluting the highways on the way to Walmart.
(i "hate" litter, too, but that's just a personal problem. =)

Can we agree that this sort of behavior by so-called "homo sapiens" is unacceptable?
No matter what the reason or excuse? Even if it only involved a friggin' rock (fer cryin' out loud)?
If so, then none of this has been wasted time.

(what a bunch of assholes those jerk-off, bozoid, m-fer's were. sure glad this was in Utah instead of Oklahoma.)
(if there was a nun around she should slap their knuckles with a ruler as a reminder. but there ain't. so it's a moot point. plus i ain't "roman nor roamin' catholic" anyways.)

[RadicalModerate]

Sorry . . . Forgot to give a basis for my paradigm and bias here . . .

"And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose."

Forgive the schmucks fer cryin' out loud . . .
Just don't be screwing around with creation. OK? =)

[Mel]

Clark Griswold had nothing on my butt. I use to take my Wife and 2 boys on long road trips. Visited many parks. Pictures can not invoke the same reaction as seeing wondrous works of Nature, Man, and Time up close. They stole from everybody else that ever visits that park. Of course some things don't smell as good as they look in pictures. Mono Lake stunk!

[kevinpate]

haha no, that's an odd assumption. I'm not trying to start anything or be rude, but if one "discounts science" and believes the earth is only ~10,000 years old, they are laughably wrong. I'm not saying you fall into this category of people, because you just said the rock was in place for that length of time, but it seems you were referring to the "young vs old earth" argument. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

That was sort of the point. In context: even if the world was less than 10,000 years old, the rock formation would have been around for thousands of years. So for the tipperheads to call it a safety issue would still be completely silly.

Oh well,once the rock dust settles, they'll probably end up with a fine and a blog entry or six and that'll be the end of it.

[RadicalModerate]

That was sort of the point. In context: even if the world was less than 10,000 years old, the rock formation would have been around for thousands of years. So for the tipperheads to call it a safety issue would still be completely silly.

Oh well,once the rock dust settles, they'll probably end up with a fine and a blog entry or six and that'll be the end of it.

If I were (or wuz) an attorney at law I would be copyrighting and trademarking the word "Tipperhead" as I type.
(this may go a long way in explaining the unintended, long-term, consequences of stupid bicycle and skateboard stunts gone bad or possibly the side effects of too much cellphone usage next to the brain.)

I Salute You, Sir (Esquire?)!
No Sh!t, No Snark.
For real.

[RadicalModerate]

Clark Griswold had nothing on my butt. I use to take my Wife and 2 boys on long road trips. Visited many parks. Pictures can not invoke the same reaction as seeing wondrous works of Nature, Man, and Time up close. They stole from everybody else that ever visits that park. Of course some things don't smell as good as they look in pictures. Mono Lake stunk!

I remember how bad Yellowstone National Park smelled as a child. Me (as a child). Not the Park. It was much older.

[Mel]

Having two male teenagers in the back seat made everything smell funny. Driving through Lemar, CO. I almost threw them out of the car until I found out the whole town smells and it wasn't just them.

[RadicalModerate]

Having two male teenagers in the back seat made everything smell funny. Driving through Lemar, CO. I almost threw them out of the car until I found out the whole town smells and it wasn't just them.

In reality, it was probably Lamar, CO.
And I agree with your assessment of the situation.
Lamar, CO smells even worse than Kit Carson, CO,
but not as bad as the rendering plant on the inskirts of Denver
nor the sugar beet plant somewhere up around Ft. Morgan or thereabouts.

Still . . .
Tipping over a 20,000 Million year old Rock Formation, just for the "Fun" of it, in the name of "safety," makes the olfactory offenses of either of those two little towns on the prairie pale in comparison.

Stink-wise.

Or were you referring to Lemur, CO?

[boscorama]

Clearly, someone suffered from an olfactory malfunction. The poor victim!

Some people would do anything for a Big Mac!

[Zack232]

That was sort of the point. In context: even if the world was less than 10,000 years old, the rock formation would have been around for thousands of years. So for the tipperheads to call it a safety issue would still be completely silly.

Oh well,once the rock dust settles, they'll probably end up with a fine and a blog entry or six and that'll be the end of it.

Oh I know it wasn't your main point. When you said "if one discounts science" it reminds me that there's a substantial amount of Americans that believe scientists (who have been educated in their respective fields for many years) are just spewing baseless nonsense. Oh well.. I'll leave you alone about it. I just hope eventually humans will grow up.

[bluedogok]

What a moron......

RM - They imploded the sugar beet plant in Eaton a few months ago.

[RadicalModerate]

What a moron......

RM - They imploded the sugar beet plant in Eaton a few months ago.

Eaton (up by Greeley) has to be the (stinky) place I was thinking of.
I don't know where I came up with Fort Morgan . . .
If you can imagine the worst garbage can ever then add the smeil of rancid machine oil you might be close to the "aroma" I remember.
It stunk so bad it made me feel like finding a rock and tipping it over.