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  1. #26

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    Quote Originally Posted by OKCisOK4me View Post
    I redrew a map on my laptop....no clue what the conference names would be but here's my groupings:



    Yellow, Brown & Green would make up the Eastern Conference and Blue, Red, and Purple would be the Western Conference. Of course the Kings and Trailblazers would just swap places if the Kings went to Seattle and became the Sonics.

    As you can see, I'm really aiming for a shake up of what we've become used to. After all, it is a realignment.
    Lol. As Charles Barkely would say, this is tuuurrrriiibbbblllleeeee. You break up so many teams from their most logical, closest rivals.

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    Here's an idea I've been working on for our division:


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    Quote Originally Posted by KilgoreTrout View Post
    Lol. As Charles Barkely would say, this is tuuurrrriiibbbblllleeeee. You break up so many teams from their most logical, closest rivals.
    See last sentence in original post. I don't know how blind you guys are. I'm just having fun, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Here's an idea I've been working on for our division:

    That is 'retarded awesome'!! hahaha

  5. #30

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Here's an idea I've been working on for our division:

    The downside with this is with that many statistically bad teams we would be guaranteed to soon be playing against some of the best talents in the NBA to win our division and in four to six years several will have the experiences to make it difficult unless all their front offices are stupid. Right now most of our division's teams are on the treadmill of mediocrity, with Denver the only one looking to possibly be emerging from it on the positive side of that anytime soon.

  6. #31

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    If a changes are made I think other factors other than just geography will come into play, market share being one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    I like this one as well.

  8. #33

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    It would be so much easier if the NBA just added 2 teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    It would be so much easier if the NBA just added 2 teams.
    geographic divisions don't matter in the nba .. they don't really make a difference in the schedule

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    Quote Originally Posted by KayneMo View Post
    I like this one as well.
    I like Kilgore's tweak of it even better. Memphis to Southeast, New Orleans to Southwest, and Phoenix to Midwest. Makes even more sense, and we'd still get to play New Orleans just as often as we do now, and we wouldn't have to play Memphis as much.

    Midwest/old Northwest is still borked, but it's always gonna be borked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trousers View Post
    If a changes are made I think other factors other than just geography will come into play, market share being one of them.
    I agree. However, this is one of the biggest reasons for keeping Pacific and Northwest divisions. Placing all of the West Coast teams in the same division leads to a Midwest division (someone mentioned above PHX, SLC, DEN, MSP, MEM or MKE) that is roughly equivalent in market size to the old Northwest division. The downside is that it is more geographically sprawling than it needs to be. All things being equal in market size, it would probably make more sense for the NBA to go with a more geographically compact division alignment.

  12. #37

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    I have something to say about the title of this thread...

    WHO THE #%^.+ CARES!!!!!!!!!!

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBoy18 View Post
    I have something to say about the title of this thread...

    WHO THE #%^.+ CARES!!!!!!!!!!
    I'm thinking that if you don't care you don't have to read this thread.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by boitoirich View Post
    I agree. However, this is one of the biggest reasons for keeping Pacific and Northwest divisions. Placing all of the West Coast teams in the same division leads to a Midwest division (someone mentioned above PHX, SLC, DEN, MSP, MEM or MKE) that is roughly equivalent in market size to the old Northwest division. The downside is that it is more geographically sprawling than it needs to be. All things being equal in market size, it would probably make more sense for the NBA to go with a more geographically compact division alignment.
    Only the conferences really matter how sprawling they are and unless they go away from the east/west format we are more sprawling no mater what lines you draw, the divisions only affect the schedule if a lockout shortens the season. Pretty much the only thing that a division determines is who are the three that are guaranteed a top four seed in the playoffs. Which if you are not naturally at least a top four team in your conference, you are going out first or second round anyway.

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    Nvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerBoy18 View Post
    I have something to say about the title of this thread...

    WHO THE #%^.+ CARES!!!!!!!!!!
    Since you replied, it is obvious that you do care

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    It would be so much easier if the NBA just added 2 teams.
    I hope they do't. The talent in the league is already watered down, expansion just waters it down further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
    The downside with this is with that many statistically bad teams we would be guaranteed to soon be playing against some of the best talents in the NBA to win our division and in four to six years several will have the experiences to make it difficult unless all their front offices are stupid. Right now most of our division's teams are on the treadmill of mediocrity, with Denver the only one looking to possibly be emerging from it on the positive side of that anytime soon.
    First, I'm sure you know he was kidding. Secondly, how long have those teams been bad? Being bad doesn't mean you will be good. The Kings just got rid of the #5 pick as a rookie to save money. The Hornets will likely improve, but on the whole, these teams could be bad for a while...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KilgoreTrout View Post
    First, I'm sure you know he was kidding. Secondly, how long have those teams been bad? Being bad doesn't mean you will be good. The Kings just got rid of the #5 pick as a rookie to save money. The Hornets will likely improve, but on the whole, these teams could be bad for a while...
    I caught that. While the old Kings management should be a case study in bad management on several business fronts, either new management team coming next year in Seattle or a new local group is bound to be a drastic improvement. Surprisingly Charlotte has a bit of a handicap too, for a good a player MJ has issues to work on owning a team. New Orleans it is still two early to tell how their owner is going to run the team but is putting in effort. I have never followed much with Orlando.

    While I don't see any of them making as quick a turn around as we did, I would bet in six years there are more top ten teams on that list than the list of our division rivals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk405359 View Post
    I hope they do't. The talent in the league is already watered down, expansion just waters it down further.
    Contraction would benefit the league and fans as well. Another benefit to the league would be to set up the draft for play like baseball. If you don't go after high school, you are ineligible to come in for 3 years. The NCAA needs to do their part as well and not disqualify someone for entering the NBA draft and not making a team.

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    How about add two teams and reduce the rosters by 1 player. This would keep the same number of players and increase playing time for all of them.

    Then create an NBA Senior league (I posted this proposal some time back) for players like Derek Fisher who are still pretty good but maybe don't have the legs for the added playing time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    How about add two teams and reduce the rosters by 1 player. This would keep the same number of players and increase playing time for all of them.

    Then create an NBA Senior league (I posted this proposal some time back) for players like Derek Fisher who are still pretty good but maybe don't have the legs for the added playing time.

    umm no .. what would be the benefit to adding any teams??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    How about add two teams and reduce the rosters by 1 player. This would keep the same number of players and increase playing time for all of them.

    Then create an NBA Senior league (I posted this proposal some time back) for players like Derek Fisher who are still pretty good but maybe don't have the legs for the added playing time.
    What.

  24. #49

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    umm no .. what would be the benefit to adding any teams??
    To increase the market size. Of course, adding a team must add to the overall profitability of the league otherwise it is a step backwards. I think adding a team in Seattle (assuming Sacramento stays put) and a team in say, Omaha, would enhance the league.

    A team in Omaha would add 3 TV markets to the NBA - Omaha, Des Moines, and Lincoln (total TVs in those markets: 1,118,710). OKC/Tulsa is 1,245,730.

    So I'm just throwing out ideas.

  25. #50

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just the facts View Post
    How about add two teams and reduce the rosters by 1 player. This would keep the same number of players and increase playing time for all of them.

    Then create an NBA Senior league (I posted this proposal some time back) for players like Derek Fisher who are still pretty good but maybe don't have the legs for the added playing time.
    The number of players isn't the problem, the quality is. There's a limited number of top tier talent in the league. When you add more teams, you dilute them between more teams, which decreases the overall quality. A team isn't going to be all superstars, and the last roster spot typically never plays, so removing one player wouldn't counteract dilution of talent, it'd just mean teams take one less practice squad player to games.

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