Another case of imposing censorship in OK Public Schools

[ou48A]

This!

Solves such problems as the bad publicity that has resulted, but IMHO, uniforms should be for all students in OK, not just OKC...and from preschool through senior year. Would elminate any 'associations' or avenues for 'bullying.' Levels the field, and if you think about it, most private schools [if not all] require uniforms. Public schools could save TONS of problems over dress codes by opting for uniforms and as OU48A said, "...then we can all focus on other problems."

My view is based on my 25-years of teaching experience in the public schools. Uniforms would have helped in so many situations where 'dress code' trumped real problems.

People in the front lines almost always understand the issue the best. Your 25 years of teaching old okie makes your opinion well informed.

I am married to a teacher who faces the OKC gang problem every single day. What she and other teachers tell me about what goes on in the OKC schools would shock most of the people complaining about the districts clothing policy’s.

You must fight gangs in any small way you can. The police gang task force recommended this policy to the district.
I hope the OKC school district isn’t so weak that they cave in.

[Skyline]

I only wish that there were this many people and this type of a discussion and outcry about the state education system in general.

[ou48A]

I only wish that there were this many people and this type of a discussion and outcry about the state education system in general.

You make a good point.
But the best thing we could do for our nation is to get the federal government out of local education.

[soonerguru]

You make a good point.
But the best thing we could do for our nation is to get the federal government out of local education.

You mean, by ending Bush's No Child Left Behind standards?

I actually think that was a decent piece of legislation, but like everything else, it had unintended consequences. Mostly, demanding the benchmarking of student achievement through testing led to districts "teaching to the test," as opposed to teaching critical thinking.

I'm curious to hear what paranoid, sinister things the federal government is doing to local education. Furthermore, if Oklahoma's standards are the discussion du jour, perhaps we need less local involvement in our education system, because it doesn't seem to be producing as well as other state's.

[ou48A]

You mean, by ending Bush's No Child Left Behind standards?

I actually think that was a decent piece of legislation, but like everything else, it had unintended consequences. Mostly, demanding the benchmarking of student achievement through testing led to districts "teaching to the test," as opposed to teaching critical thinking.

I'm curious to hear what paranoid, sinister things the federal government is doing to local education. Furthermore, if Oklahoma's standards are the discussion du jour, perhaps we need less local involvement in our education system, because it doesn't seem to be producing as well as other state's.

History shows that local problems are always best solved locally when possible.
States should still have over site of districts.
It is very, very clear …….The more that the federal government has gotten involved the worse the quality has become.

[soonerguru]

History shows that local problems are always best solved locally when possible.
States should still have over site of districts.
It is very, very clear …….The more that the federal government has gotten involved the worse the quality has become.

Oklahoma has almost exclusive control over its system. States set curriculum. The only significant involvement by the Feds in recent years is No Child Left Behind, which while terribly flawed, has raised standards of student learning.

This isn't the right thread to derail this for but you see a bogeyman that's not really there.

Do you want local school districts to be able to start teaching "creationism" and other junk science? They already can. I don't see where the Feds have "gotten involved." What are you talking about? This sounds like standard GOP talking point blather.

Maybe you think the Feds shouldn't provide funding to school districts. Bad idea all around. Should we dispense with the Federal school lunch program?

My sister had the distinct pleasure of teaching in Texas, where radical local control has led to textbook banning and censorship.

It's not like the Feds have this authoritarian control of our schools. If you have a problem with Oklahoma's system, send your concerns to the State Superintendent.

[ou48A]

Oklahoma has almost exclusive control over its system. States set curriculum. The only significant involvement by the Feds in recent years is No Child Left Behind, which while terribly flawed, has raised standards of student learning.

This isn't the right thread to derail this for but you see a bogeyman that's not really there.

Do you want local school districts to be able to start teaching "creationism" and other junk science? They already can. I don't see where the Feds have "gotten involved." What are you talking about? This sounds like standard GOP talking point blather.

Maybe you think the Feds shouldn't provide funding to school districts. Bad idea all around. Should we dispense with the Federal school lunch program?

My sister had the distinct pleasure of teaching in Texas, where radical local control has led to book banning and censorship.

It's not like the Feds have this authoritarian control of our schools. If you have a problem with Oklahoma's system, send your concerns to the State Superintendent.

The fed government is involved in local education well beyond no child left behind and was also involved for many years before no child left behind became into being.

But no child left behind is a horrible example of Federal government involvement.

[soonerguru]

The fed government is involved in local education well beyond no child left behind and was also involved for many years before no child left behind became into being.

But no child left behind is a horrible example of Federal government involvement.

OK. You cite one example, which I already brought up. What else? Lunches for poor kids? Desegregation?

[ou48A]

OK. You cite one example, which I already brought up. What else? Lunches for poor kids? Desegregation?

There are many things they are involved in ….but the point is that the federal government doesn’t do anything very well and that it’s part of the problem.

That government is best which governs least.

[soonerguru]

There are many things they are involved in ….but the point is that the federal government doesn’t do anything very well and that it’s part of the problem.

That government is best which governs least.

The Federal Government does things a lot better than OK State Government, and it's not even close. And thanks for the complete lack of tangible examples of how "federal involvement" is hurting our school system. Other than reciting Republican Party dogma designed to make clueless people mad, FAIL.

[mikeareese]

I agree. Uniforms should be mandatory. I am surprised this is such a big deal. Rules are rules. I live by rules at my work. If, I don't wear a hard hat, steel toe boots. My job will send me home. I am sure they knew the dress code policy. They did have other kids in OKC schools.

[ou48A]

The Federal Government does things a lot better than OK State Government, and it's not even close. And thanks for the complete lack of tangible examples of how "federal involvement" is hurting our school system. Other than reciting Republican Party dogma designed to make clueless people mad, FAIL.

Your just as wrong as it gets…..The Federal government doesn’t do anything as well as a well-run school district.

The Federal goverermnet only make their jobs harder and more expensive by one size fits all mandates that milk away precious resources in wasteful spending.
If reforms are needed at the state level let’s make the necessary changes. Large centralized government has never worked well in history and that about as specific as anyone needs to get to understand that the Federal governments roll as it exist today is a huge mistake. It’s like a crime being committed against todays youth.

[BlackmoreRulz]

I agree. Uniforms should be mandatory.

Why? What ever happened to individualism? Now our education system wants everyone to look and think the same?

[Jersey Boss]

I agree. Uniforms should be mandatory. I am surprised this is such a big deal. Rules are rules. I live by rules at my work. If, I don't wear a hard hat, steel toe boots. My job will send me home. I am sure they knew the dress code policy. They did have other kids in OKC schools.

First of all school is not your job. Folks can change jobs, school not so much. Second, uniforms are very popular in North Korea. 'Nuff said.