MTP Launches GOTV Campaign VOLUNTEER FOR YES MAPS NOW

[OSUFan]

Before anyone says this (because I know it is coming). I have no problem with people who have opposing views. I might not agree with guys like Andy or Larry but they've been nothing but respectful. Luckily they other handful of posters who haven't been will be gone next Wednesday, win or lose.

[jbrown84]

Exactly. That was a blatantly personal attack by blazerfan, which I'm pretty sure is against TOS.

I honestly haven't seen karried post in weeks and mmm has been pretty quiet.

[kevinpate]

Exactly. That was a blatantly personal attack by blazerfan, which I'm pretty sure is against TOS.

I honestly haven't seen karried post in weeks and mmm has been pretty quiet.

mmm noted this week in another thread folks needed to be more civil. Doesn't seem to have helped a great deal unfortunately.

Conversely, folks on both sides of the coin have lost it a time or too, though perhaps none quite so much as has Blazerfan11 or as some reference him, Steve Hunt, in this particular thread.

Don't know who Steve Hunt is, or why it's particularly relevant to bring out he is Blazerfan111, assuming he is of course. It seems to be stated with a fair degree of certainty, but the why is just not all that clear. or perhaps I am somewhat dense. I certainly have been at other times, so it can't be ruled out, lol.

[Popsy]

I am wondering if the real estate people have been told to stay out of the fray as Metro has not been posting either.

[soonerguru]

mmm noted this week in another thread folks needed to be more civil. Doesn't seem to have helped a great deal unfortunately.

Conversely, folks on both sides of the coin have lost it a time or too, though perhaps none quite so much as has Blazerfan11 or as some reference him, Steve Hunt, in this particular thread.

Don't know who Steve Hunt is, or why it's particularly relevant to bring out he is Blazerfan111, assuming he is of course. It seems to be stated with a fair degree of certainty, but the why is just not all that clear. or perhaps I am somewhat dense. I certainly have been at other times, so it can't be ruled out, lol.

This is beyond being uncivil. His comments are a threat. The mods on here are letting the discourse continue to deteriorate.

Not to mention, isn't the goal of this site to progressively advocate on behalf of OKC and its continued improvement?

This isn't a free country. It's an advocacy site. Why are we giving a platform and soapbox to angry trolls who advocate against the city's progress? Can't the less respectful of the bunch just be put out to pasture?

[soonerguru]

This is Steve Hunt, the guy who threatened Urban Pioneer. Here he is ranting in front of city council.

Today is “Belittle Steve Hunt and Say He Works at Taco Bell Day” at The Lost Ogle

[kevinpate]

This is Steve Hunt, the guy who threatened Urban Pioneer. Here he is ranting in front of city council.

Today is “Belittle Steve Hunt and Say He Works at Taco Bell Day” at The Lost Ogle

Take a lobbyist to work day .....


Bill Engval is right ... you can't make this stuff up

[Urban Pioneer]

Just found three of our signs destroyed. Immediately put up three more. MTP has been on the sign plantation all day!

[Doug Loudenback]

I agree, jbrown.

This used to be a pleasant website to visit. The mods' hands-off approach has allowed it to deteriorate to a nasty, vile place.

I can't wait 'til this election is over and the hateful trolls leave for good.

[iron76hd]

What a bunch of whiners. You want to be able to say anything you want to anyone with an opposing view, but then cry foul when the favor is returned. You folks have no class. Thank you Andy for noticing.

"Personal Attack" ..."threatening"..blah blah..

Put up as many signs as you like. The difference is we are getting calls from citizens requesting them. LOL..not just driving around town sticking them in the ground. How's the door knocking going so far? I'd like to be a fly on the wall....I hope you come to my door...I'll laugh you right off the porch!

[Urban Pioneer]

You make me laugh Iron. It amuses me that you think you know the definition of "class". Go outside and roll around on the lawn in front of your NO signs. The web would love a break from you.

[krisb]

Iron is not doing anything to help the ignorant redneck anti-MAPS stereotype.

[Popsy]

A friend of mine said he would feel better if they would just visit their Jr. High English teacher to learn the difference between their, they're and there.

[Urban Pioneer]

I need whoever can take off early today and work the afternoon shift to let me know. Free lunch at the chamber also.

volunteer@mtpokc.com

[jbrown84]

Iron, what makes you think MTP is going around knocking on doors asking people if they can put up signs. They ALSO have had people call or email asking for signs.

And it's been documented on this site that NO advocates have asked businesses to put up signs and been turned down, so you don't have a leg to stand on.


Kevin, the reason we are pointing out that Blazerfan is Steve Hunt is because he has posted to this site under multiple usernames in the past and been banned on more than one occasion for personal attacks.

[Urban Pioneer]

A solid volunteer day out on the streets. About to go through a "shift" change. If any of you want to volunteer this weekend I can put all of you to good use. holding our ground.

[kevinpate]

Iron is not doing anything to help the ignorant redneck anti-MAPS stereotype.

Well now, that all depends on how one defines help.

[Tier2City]

Well now, that all depends on how one defines help.

Face it. He's a Chamber plant.

[soonerguru]

Face it. He's a Chamber plant.

Say wha?

Is he a plant to make the opposition look like idiots? If that is the goal, good job, Chamber.

[Larry OKC]

...This isn't a free country. It's an advocacy site. Why are we giving a platform and soapbox to angry trolls who advocate against the city's progress? Can't the less respectful of the bunch just be put out to pasture?

The name of the site "OKC Talk" doesn't indicate it is any sort of "advocacy", but a place to talk/exchange ideas/debate those ideas when they seem to be contrary to each other. At least that is the way I saw it.

[soonerguru]

Larry, you're not the offender here.

There are some trolls here, and there are some people who are against MAPS. You are against MAPS, but you're not a troll, at least as far as I can tell.

But it's true that the founding of this website by Patrick was to advocate on behalf of improvement and progressive movement of our city. It wasn't designed to be an equal-time forum.

This site is now owned by Pete, who is a fierce advocate of MAPS, as far as I can tell.

We are all guests on his site, and we post here at his pleasure.

There's no guarantee we can post whatever we want however we want. We post here at Pete's pleasure.

He's obviously a very patient guy and he's obviously not a censor. But he cares deeply for this city and is very pro-MAPS, as far as I can tell, so by acting like this is a free forum to bash MAPS and its proponents seems to me to be an ungracious position for a visitor to take.

[andy157]

Larry, you're not the offender here.

There are some trolls here, and there are some people who are against MAPS. You are against MAPS, but you're not a troll, at least as far as I can tell.

But it's true that the founding of this website by Patrick was to advocate on behalf of improvement and progressive movement of our city. It wasn't designed to be an equal-time forum.

This site is now owned by Pete, who is a fierce advocate of MAPS, as far as I can tell.

We are all guests on his site, and we post here at his pleasure.

There's no guarantee we can post whatever we want however we want. We post here at Pete's pleasure.

He's obviously a very patient guy and he's obviously not a censor. But he cares deeply for this city and is very pro-MAPS, as far as I can tell, so by acting like this is a free forum to bash MAPS and its proponents seems to me to be an ungracious position for a visitor to take.

What if he were anti-maps would you feel the same way? Would you be so gracious as to refrain from showing your support for MAPS? If that were the case would there be a reason for you to be here? Why would you want to come here as a MAPS supporter only to listen to the anti-MAPS side knowing you were not allowed to voice your position?

[soonerguru]

Dude, if this site was majority anti-MAPS I probably wouldn't be wasting a lot of time posting here. The point is that it's not my site and it's not yours either. So why do people expect there to be equal time for everyone? For all I know Pete may not like my posts and tell me to leave someday. I hope not, but it's his website and he can manage it however he wants.

It just seems strange to me that many of the anti-MAPS posters had no presence on this site until the campaign kicked in, and see no irony in the fact that they are using an ostensibly pro-MAPS site to launch their tirades against MAPS. In actuality, they're guests of the owner and are owed nothing.

[andy157]

Dude, if this site was majority anti-MAPS I probably wouldn't be wasting a lot of time posting here. The point is that it's not my site and it's not yours either. So why do people expect there to be equal time for everyone? For all I know Pete may not like my posts and tell me to leave someday. I hope not, but it's his website and he can manage it however he wants.

It just seems strange to me that many of the anti-MAPS posters had no presence on this site until the campaign kicked in, and see no irony in the fact that they are using an ostensibly pro-MAPS site to launch their tirades against MAPS. In actuality, they're guests of the owner and are owed nothing.

Chill out DUDE

[soonerguru]

Chill out DUDE

I'm perfectly chill. Don't be so sensitive. And remember, you -- just like me -- are a guest on this site. It's not your own private soapbox.