Once Saved always saved?

[Midtowner]

Thanks Midtowner...I actually use it frequently!

It is a great site, eh?

Keith? You are very convinced (that means you are sure/certain) of your beliefs, yet you can do nothing to support them? Google.com can be a wonderful (that means good) tool my friend. I challenge you to find me a manuscript of the New Testament.. ah that's a big word.... here:

man·u·script n.

1. A book, document, or other composition written by hand.
2. A typewritten or handwritten version of a book, an article, a document, or other work, especially the author's own copy, prepared and submitted for publication in print.
3. Handwriting.

As I was saying... find me a manuscript or credible (believeable) evidence of something written even remotely close to 200AD.. or hell, I'll even give you 125 years.. Let's say around 325AD that would be (if translated) identical (that means "the same") as the Protestant NIV.

Oh please show me. I don't think you can. I don't think such a thing exists. Or do you not think something you believe in so strongly is worth defending?

[Patrick]

Really, is this topic worth such deep thought? As far as I'm concerned it doesn't affect my beliefs. Once Saved Always Saved isn't even worth arguing if you're right with God. I think the debate has been good, but I think we've all presented our opinions. I'll try to come up with anoter topic so we can move on to something else.

[Keith]

I can see that I have gotten under your skin. I have already defended what I believe, you just haven't figured it out yet. I had asked that we get off this subject and get back to the original thread, however, you refuse(in other words, you won't listen) , and want to continue on, trying to show your intellect..or lack thereof.

[Patrick]

I think we've pretty much covered everything I intended for this thread to cover. The debate, for the most part has been great. Nothing has gotten out of hand, but I just feel that anymore discussion o this topic among us, and we'd probably we beating a dead horse.....that's what it was starting to become. I'll start a new topic here in the next few days. I have a few ideas to create some more great debate.