KFOR News Set

[okctvnewsguy]

That's been in the works for quite sometime...it just took longer than expected for the backgrounds to be delivered.

It is amazing how long it takes when you have backgrounds printed at a scenery shop, and not at Kinkos

[FritterGirl]

The one thing that bugs me about KOCO in particular, and I think KWTV does this, too (I rarely watch 4) - so forgive me tvnewsguy - is when the stations pull in feature stories or consumer watch stories from other markets, then use a local VO to make it seem as if the story were done locally, when it's really not.

I realize some stories are "universal;" I also realize that reporters are on short order many times and cannot always cover every story, but if local news is truly local news, then they'd bring in a local angle to these types of stories.

It especially bothers me when a reporter from another market supposedly tosses the story back locally, to make it look like a station has presence in that market, when in fact they don't (I think 9 is especially guilty of this one with their Wash DC coverage).

I'm sure this happens in every market, but if something is relevant enough to report on, couldn't you get a stand-up from someone locally?

I remember during the pet food recall last year - either KOCO or KWTV pulled in a wire feed story about specialty feed stores that sold high quality pet food brands not affected by the recall. The store was not an okc-located store, and I'm not sure if they even used a local VO on that one. To make the story have more meaning locally, all a local reporter had to do was run literally down the street to Britton Feed & Seed and get a LOCAL interview.

I know this is universally accepted and that the local stations probably put out just as many of these stories on the wire as they pull in, but it just kind of seems disingenuous.

[kimard]

The one thing that bugs me about KOCO in particular, and I think KWTV does this, too (I rarely watch 4) - so forgive me tvnewsguy - is when the stations pull in feature stories or consumer watch stories from other markets, then use a local VO to make it seem as if the story were done locally, when it's really not.

I agree with you FritterGirl. KFOR is usually the worst at this, especially during the 4:30 newscast.

And (getting off subject) one thing that annoys me about KFOR's new graphics is their extensive use of Eurostile. You'd think they could bounce back and forth between a different font.

IMO, KOCO has the best graphics in the OKC market.. who ever made them gets 'two thumbs up' from me. Now, just if one of our stations would start broadcasting in HD...

[okctvnewsguy]

in regards to the Washington Bureau thing, KOCO is actually owned by Hearst, and they have an bureau in D.C. that is setup to specifically do packages, and custom live in and outs for all of the Hearst group. KWTV pays a service for theirs I believe. On the localizing national stories... I will PM you thoughts on that...

[Bobby821]

Well, I hate to burst your bubble Bobby, but Neilson ratings show that you are watching the losing newscast. KOCO is strong at 5 and 6 and now took the number two spot away from KFOR at 10pm, now that the Olympics are over, it is back to being number 3 for KFOR.

Whatever Keep dreaming.. Were #1 and always will be.

[FritterGirl]

Whatever Keep dreaming.. Were #1 and always will be.

Gee. Who do I believe? The dollar-tipping Edmond-hater, or the person who is actually in the NEWS business. That's a tough one.

[duckman]

I'm sure each station is number one in at least on demographic. KFOR is probably just number one in idiots age 18-34.

[NE Oasis]

Gee. Who do I believe? The dollar-tipping Edmond-hater, or the person who is actually in the NEWS business. That's a tough one.

True, but please don't feed the troll

[jsibelius]

I don't know about y'all, but I like my main news anchors to have a little age on them. *Both* of them. That's one reason why I watch KFOR a little more than KOCO. I don't watch the news for maximum prettiness of people. Or of sets for that matter - otherwise, I NEVER would have given KFOR a second look. That light blue blur they used to have was truly awful!

Actually, I'm having a little trouble getting used to Paul Folger. I really wish they would have moved John Flick up out of the morning crew and started that group from scratch. I know that defies my age thing, but then again, so do Maggie and Jessica. I like John and I'm already used to him. I suppose I'll eventually get used to Paul too, but right now, he just looks like an interloper.

My other half absolutely detests Gary England for some reason, so there is no KWTV around here under any circumstances.

[TaoMaas]

The one thing that bugs me about KOCO in particular, and I think KWTV does this, too (I rarely watch 4) - so forgive me tvnewsguy - is when the stations pull in feature stories or consumer watch stories from other markets, then use a local VO to make it seem as if the story were done locally, when it's really not.

Yeah, they all do that. Maybe not on all shows, but it's a pretty common thing. It's just a way of filling time with a minimum of work. I'm not saying stations are lazy...they just have WAY more time to fill these days than they used to have.

[Bobby821]

KFOR is the best we are consitantly ranked #1 and we have the best morning show and team around hands down..

[FritterGirl]

KFOR is the best we are consitantly ranked #1 and we have the best morning show and team around hands down..

You say "we." Do you work for KFOR? Can you please provide the appropriate documentation about where your rankings fall? How about age/daypart?

What ratings are you working off of. Please provide some factual evidence.

[jbrown84]

Whatever Keep dreaming.. Were #1 and always will be.

You must be Linda Cavanaugh.

[jsibelius]

I HAVE to have hope she can spell better than that.

[gmwise]

Local tv news makes me ill.
I prefer to read and watch intresting stories.
not how to do no bake cookies

[rwood8]

KFOR is the best we are consitantly ranked #1 and we have the best morning show and team around hands down..

Best morning show? Really?

All I have to say is...

"Mike? MIKE? Mike! Mike!!! You have my stream? My stream? Mike?! Mike?! MY STREAM DO YOU HAVE MY STREAM?! MIKE! Mike...Mike...Mike...Stream..Mike.."


(That's about the best David Payne text-impression I can do.)

[drumsncode]

You know, I think the only thing more interesting than having TV insiders beating up on viewers is TV insiders beating up on each other! ;-)

There shouldn't be any arguments about what shows have the best ratings. All someone has to do is post the Nielsen results. It would be a big favor to all of us if someone did that every sweeps, because TV stations guard it too closely, and it really annoys the heck out of me.

Yes, I know Nielsen doesn't want you to divulge all their priceless information, but someone could at least tell us the order of placement in each timeslot. This board seems to be the only place you can get any useful info about the stations, and we're lucky to have a few insiders here. We don't always agree on everything, but I'm still glad they're here.

And yes, KFOR has a great morning crew, but if memory serves, KWTV is still winning that slot.

It would be interesting if someone from KWTV would step up and tell us why they feel NEWS 9 dominates at 10pm. Do they credit the journalism, the anchors, or the legendary Gary England. Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)

(And if you've seen all the Gary England promos done lately, NEWS 9 has elevated Gary to "Deity Status", with some of the most grandiose productions of a commercial I've ever seen. Check out the shot of the woman, spinning in slow-motion, gazing up into the glorious heavens as she marvels at what a beautiful day it is!)

[soonerliberal]

It would be interesting if someone from KWTV would step up and tell us why they feel NEWS 9 dominates at 10pm. Do they credit the journalism, the anchors, or the legendary Gary England. Inquiring minds want to know. ;-)

While I do not work for KWTV, I imagine it would be a number of factors, including the strong CBS lead-in to the 10pm news, recent consistency in message, talent, and product, and an arguably higher quality of overall newscast.

KWTV has clearly made an overwhelming financial investment in the news division of their station, which seems to have been an worthy one.

[drumsncode]

While I do not work for KWTV, I imagine it would be a number of factors, including the strong CBS lead-in to the 10pm news, recent consistency in message, talent, and product, and an arguably higher quality of overall newscast.

KWTV has clearly made an overwhelming financial investment in the news division of their station, which seems to have been an worthy one.

Interesting points, but I just have to wonder, does their news really feel higher-quality than that of the other stations? I see the same stuff aired on every station, almost at the same time in almost the same order, so during a lot of the show there is very little difference to my eyes.

I do like Kelly Ogle's commentaries, so that's a plus, and I'm sure we all love Amanda Taylor's Consumer Watch. Maybe we should have a thread asking OKCTalk members why they watch NEWS 9. I even wonder if the viewers watch for the same reasons the management thinks they do.

And the mad scientist in me wants to see them take Amy McRee off the air for a month without a replacement, just to see if the ratings hold up. Only the KWTV people know for sure how a missing anchor affects the ratings, and so far, they're not telling.

[jsibelius]

Best morning show? Really?

All I have to say is...

"Mike? MIKE? Mike! Mike!!! You have my stream? My stream? Mike?! Mike?! MY STREAM DO YOU HAVE MY STREAM?! MIKE! Mike...Mike...Mike...Stream..Mike.."


(That's about the best David Payne text-impression I can do.)

Nope...I gotta agree about the morning show. It's not about the great news and weather delivery. It's about the laughs. David Payne and Kent Ogle are hilarious and Robert the laugh guy just adds to the mix. When they have too many subs (meaning if David and Kent are both out), I watch KOCO's morning show instead.

[rkjg24]

You say "we." Do you work for KFOR? Can you please provide the appropriate documentation about where your rankings fall? How about age/daypart?

What ratings are you working off of. Please provide some factual evidence.

He's probably one of the Bob Barry's.

[rwood8]

Nope...I gotta agree about the morning show. It's not about the great news and weather delivery. It's about the laughs. David Payne and Kent Ogle are hilarious and Robert the laugh guy just adds to the mix. When they have too many subs (meaning if David and Kent are both out), I watch KOCO's morning show instead.

Since when is show quality rated on the amount of laughs it receives? If that's the case, FOX would be killing the competition...and that's just people laughing at whatever outfit Angie Mock chooses to wear that day.

[jsibelius]

Since when is show quality rated on the amount of laughs it receives? If that's the case, FOX would be killing the competition...and that's just people laughing at whatever outfit Angie Mock chooses to wear that day.

I have my own ratings system.

[TaoMaas]

While I do not work for KWTV, I imagine it would be a number of factors, including the strong CBS lead-in to the 10pm news, recent consistency in message, talent, and product, and an arguably higher quality of overall newscast.

IMHO, the deciding factor is network lead-in. 4, 5, and 9 all put on a very good product. That's why lead-in programming plays a big role. It's that one extra factor that tips the scale in favor of one station or another.

[kevinpate]

I watch one station far more than the others because:
(a) I believe they do better weather
(b) I am amused by silly, nonsensical claptrap, and they rarely disappoint