Re: Top 100 Small Cities - GRIPE!
Norman guys, you're taking this way too far. It sounds like an inferior complex.
Nobody here would argue that Norman isn't a great place or doesnt belong on the list. In fact, Im sure most people are happy about it. Edmond too.
However, the argument that was presented is the list is not really fair to REAL SMALL cities - like Enid, Duncan, and Ardmore; because those real stand-alone small cities can't compete against suburbs of major metropolitan areas.
And like it or not, but Norman is as big and important as it is because it is a suburb of Oklahoma City. There is no separation, other than civic government, and even that is only at the municipal level, above that - everything is Oklahoma City.
Like I said, I don't think anybody is complaining here that Norman made the list or that Norman is a bad place - we're only saying this is so because it is a suburb, and that add's to it's Greatness.
Edmond would be NOTHING without OKC - we know this. Broken Arrow wouldn't exist without Tulsa. Denton would be smaller than Valley Brooke if it weren't for Dallas. Bellevue would still be a fishing village if it weren't for Seattle. Naperville would only have 5 people if it weren't for Chicago.
Norman would be a Stillwater at best, if it weren't for OKC. But in reality, even Stillwater would be smaller than it is today if OKC didn't exist. This is because, as Spartan pointed out, it's all OKC CSA (meaning they're suburbs or exurbs of Oklahoma City).
And how could Newton KS EVER compare to an Oklahoma City suburb? Or a Seattle suburb? Or a Chicago suburb?
Perhaps I picked the wrong example with the NWS, but I used it because the NWS used to be located at WRWA but they moved to Norman - and so, I thought that when they do forecasting they identify themselves as OKC. Perhaps you guys are thinking instead of the National Severe Storms Forecast Center at NOAA, which does identify itself as Norman. But isnt the NWS still OKC, despite being in Norman?
Anyways, I don;'t think there's any reason to wet anyone's shorts if you will - it is great for Oklahoma City to have two suburbs making a top national ranking. And Im sure being a suburb added to that ranking (just like the other suburbs on that list) - which was the whole point of this thread.
Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!
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