Leaving Norman, Moving to Moore in Spring!

[okclee]

That is a funny story, welcome to South Okc! lol

[triumphrider74]

Don't let us catch you at our Harley Davidson store then

No worries. Check out my user name. I ride a TRIUMPH.

You really, really proved my point.

What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

[triumphrider74]

The position of the dirtbag.

[Easy180]

No worries. Check out my user name. I ride a TRIUMPH.

You really, really proved my point.

What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

A triumph isn't a Harley...how so very not interesting

[jmarkross]

Get an Indian...

[triumphrider74]

A triumph isn't a Harley...how so very not interesting

Great comeback.

[bradzilla]

Moore progressive ??? Well they have recently brought in alot of big box retailers that you find all over the rest of the city.

I lived there a few years ago and have no strong desire to ever move back. But if you are looking for cheaply priced cookie cutter homes on flat lots with no trees then its a great place to live. It wasnt a bad experience and i hold nothing against the city its just a very bland lifestyle(to me) but obviously a lot of people like it. Dan Mcguiness pub is the only place that i'll occasionally go back to visit that i cant find in any other part of the city.

[bradzilla]

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[Easy180]

Moore progressive ??? Well they have recently brought in alot of big box retailers that you find all over the rest of the city.

I lived there a few years ago and have no strong desire to ever move back. But if you are looking for cheaply priced cookie cutter homes on flat lots with no trees then its a great place to live. It wasnt a bad experience and i hold nothing against the city its just a very bland lifestyle(to me) but obviously a lot of people like it. Dan Mcguiness pub is the only place that i'll occasionally go back to visit that i cant find in any other part of the city.

I hear ya...not sure how old you are but I wouldn't be too excited living in Moore if I was still in my 20's

Good city to raise a family for sure but if u are lookin for nightlife this ain't the place

[Jesseda]

so moore is different from norman then, norman loves drunk nightlife parties and moore is the place to settle down and raise a family? Got it thanks for clearing it up...okay so it common for people to make there city they live in the best and no one can compete with them, all the cities around okc have great positive things and some not so great, I personally like moore, but i live in moore thats why i like it, i choose to live here. Everyone has an opinion, but there is no need to bash all the time.

[ljbab728]

so moore is different from norman then, norman loves drunk nightlife parties and moore is the place to settle down and raise a family? Got it thanks for clearing it up...okay so it common for people to make there city they live in the best and no one can compete with them, all the cities around okc have great positive things and some not so great, I personally like moore, but i live in moore thats why i like it, i choose to live here. Everyone has an opinion, but there is no need to bash all the time.

Jesseda, I understand what you're saying but there is more to nightlife than getting drunk. Moore certainly has bars. How about live theater and concerts along with numerous art and food festivals? Raising children where they can be exposed to cultural events has some advantages.

[flintysooner]

Jesseda, I understand what you're saying but there is more to nightlife than getting drunk. Moore certainly has bars. How about live theater and concerts along with numerous art and food festivals? Raising children where they can be exposed to cultural events has some advantages.

Not to be argumentative but I thought I might respond to your points.

I can't think of any bars in Moore other than something associated with food such as Louie's or Warren Theater. I remember when Buffalo Wild Wings went in that it was said it was so busy because it was about the only place to have a beer.

Probably surprise you to learn that there is live theater at the Yellow Rose which is actually an enjoyable experience. I believe there are other occasional venues as well.

There actually are some artist types who call Moore home as well or at least I've read the accounts in several publications. I suppose the best known art and food offerings would be had at the annual 4th of July event which is rather well attended. But there are others as well but you'd probably not know much of them unless you were a part of the community.

Also Moore is rather well situated for travel to both other metropolitan areas and most anywhere in the State. So it isn't unusual to travel to downtown Oklahoma City, Edmond, Norman, Yukon, Shawnee, Lawton, and so on from Moore. This is by personal experience. In a way it is kind of nice to be able to eat lunch one day at Victoria's in Norman, Nonna's the next, Jo's in Edmond the next, and even Bankgkok Restaurant on occasion.

For a very long time there was not much retail in Moore but while the market is still under-served compared to other areas there is a good variety now of retail opportunity. There is also a hospital, schools of various kinds, several restaurants, and rather good public services including police and fire. There are very nice new fire stations under construction now and soon to open.

A new police station is being built. A downtown location was chosen and one of the goals was to help renew the downtown area. In that same regard there is considerable streetscape work that has occurred there. Granted that Moore's downtown is never going to compete with Norman's or Oklahoma City's or Edmond's but what is there is being respected and efforts made to improve and preserve.

There is a very active Chamber of Commerce and grand openings of new businesses are surprisingly well attended. If you open a small business in Moore then you will be welcomed by a group of other business owners who will invite you to participate with them afterward. I've lived in Oklahoma City, Norman, Moore, and out of state and have never witnessed this same thing elsewhere.

The alumni association for the school awards annual scholarships and has a fund at the Oklahoma City Community Foundation. The association is sponsoring an annual 5K run now.

There are opportunities for political and public service in Moore. Citizen involvement is desired and promoted.

There is housing in most price ranges. I will grant if you want a prestigious address then Moore is probably not the place for you but that isn't exactly unique to Moore.

There is just the beginning of new daytime business and professional opportunities now.

There is certainly plenty of criticism that can and is directed at the community but no more than I see towards other metropolitan areas.

Moore may not be a perfect place but it is certainly a reasonable choice to consider for many people who are looking for a community to call home.

[Jesseda]

well said flintysooner, I love moore, i love living here, I also enjoy norman and parts of okc, and you are right, if you want to do something in norman it takes minutes to get thre, if you want to go to bricktown-downtown okc, it takes maybe 15-20 minutes, Love it that way

[earlywinegareth]

Moore is much better now than 10-20 years ago - new hospital, retail, restaurants, movie theatre. I still say they're more alike than ever. Heck, the way they are growing together pretty soon we can call the whole region Moorman or even better refer to the stretch of I-35 between 89th and the Canadian River bridge as the "MoorNor corridor". Hey I should copyright that.

[adaniel]

I have no problem with Moore. It is what it is, a low key, new suburb that would probably stink if your young and single, but a great place to raise a family. And it has definitely improved over the years. You could make the same argument about several cities outside OKC or Norman, or in this country for that matter. My issue is that the OP is automatically saying brand new=better. Certainly he is free to do whatever he pleases and I wish him well in his move, but some of his reasoning is strange to the point of being false and I think he will be pretty bummed when he lives in Moore and finds he just undertook a costly move and little changed in his or his family's lives.

But its not just the short term. A lot of people have thrown out the PC area as an example of what happens with brand new suburbs and time. I'll give a more extreme example. Some relatives of mine in the late 70's moved from OKC to Houston, and settled in the Mission Bend area. Like Moore, it was a very new, fast growing middle class area with lots of new areas and new families moving to the area fueled by the oil boom at the time. Fast foward 30 years and nothing is the same. The once new shopping centers are all half empty, the neighborhood has gone way down with lots of homes now rentals, which has brought a lot bad criminal element into the area. They are trying to sell their house and get out while they can but are finding out they are going to take a bath because their proeprty values have tanked and will be lucky to break even after realtor fees. They are looking around wondering what happened to their once great neighborhood. Its just the life cycle of suburbs in this part of the world. I can't say that it won't happen in Moore, or even some parts of Norman (some parts around 12th and Lindsey are starting to look a bit iffy already), but the facts don't lie. Unless an area is pricey enough to where it can keep the bad element away (Edmond, Nichols Hills) or it has some sort of draw like a major employer or university (Norman) new suburbs will always start going down after a while. Thats why I find the OP's declaration about how "progressive" and nicer Moore is because it threw up a bunch of strip malls and Home-Creations developments laughable. Will he still think that when all those new strip malls are full of liquor stores and pawns shops or his once new, affordable neighborhoods are half rentals and look like hell? Its less a matter of "if" and more of "when" it will happen.

I'm sorry if my post sounds elitist, suburbs are not horrible. I grew up in very nice one and am very greatful for it. But even now my parents would agree with me that burbs tend to cycle, and it was something they did not realize at the time when they were too busy being wowed by how shiny and new everything was. Truthfully, we could argue forever about how suburban development/urban sprawl and what its effects are.

[flintysooner]

I have no problem with Moore. It is what it is, a low key, new suburb that would probably stink if your young and single, but a great place to raise a family. And it has definitely improved over the years. You could make the same argument about several cities outside OKC or Norman, or in this country for that matter. My issue is that the OP is automatically saying brand new=better. Certainly he is free to do whatever he pleases and I wish him well in his move, but some of his reasoning is strange to the point of being false and I think he will be pretty bummed when he lives in Moore and finds he just undertook a costly move and little changed in his or his family's lives.

But its not just the short term. A lot of people have thrown out the PC area as an example of what happens with brand new suburbs and time. I'll give a more extreme example. Some relatives of mine in the late 70's moved from OKC to Houston, and settled in the Mission Bend area. Like Moore, it was a very new, fast growing middle class area with lots of new areas and new families moving to the area fueled by the oil boom at the time. Fast foward 30 years and nothing is the same. The once new shopping centers are all half empty, the neighborhood has gone way down with lots of homes now rentals, which has brought a lot bad criminal element into the area. They are trying to sell their house and get out while they can but are finding out they are going to take a bath because their proeprty values have tanked and will be lucky to break even after realtor fees. They are looking around wondering what happened to their once great neighborhood. Its just the life cycle of suburbs in this part of the world. I can't say that it won't happen in Moore, or even some parts of Norman (some parts around 12th and Lindsey are starting to look a bit iffy already), but the facts don't lie. Unless an area is pricey enough to where it can keep the bad element away (Edmond, Nichols Hills) or it has some sort of draw like a major employer or university (Norman) new suburbs will always start going down after a while. Thats why I find the OP's declaration about how "progressive" and nicer Moore is because it threw up a bunch of strip malls and Home-Creations developments laughable. Will he still think that when all those new strip malls are full of liquor stores and pawns shops or his once new, affordable neighborhoods are half rentals and look like hell? Its less a matter of "if" and more of "when" it will happen.

I'm sorry if my post sounds elitist, suburbs are not horrible. I grew up in very nice one and am very greatful for it. But even now my parents would agree with me that burbs tend to cycle, and it was something they did not realize at the time when they were too busy being wowed by how shiny and new everything was. Truthfully, we could argue forever about how suburban development/urban sprawl and what its effects are.

I don't think it is elitist.

Moore is neither new nor has it experienced the same kind of explosive growth as other areas of the region. Moore is very small in land area and locked in by Norman and Oklahoma City. The slow growth has been beneficial to property values because while there was not tremendous run up there was not a big let down either.

I'm not sure why you think it is not progressive. When I was young way back when the city government was terrible. There were nearly no standards for much of anything. But in the past couple of decades the government has improved tremendously. Standards now exist. Until a few years ago there wasn't even a place to buy a 2x4. There have been many projects undertaken just for beautification. For instance there have been many trees planted and there has been a real effort to clean things up. Is there more room for continued improvement? Certainly there is. But by any definition of progressive that I know it seems to me that the community deserves some credit.

Moore isn't trying to be Norman or Oklahoma City or Edmond or anything but Moore. Not everyone is going to like Moore but that's fine and as it should be.

But I admit I am a big fan of Stephen Covey and I do tend to look for win-win situations.

[G.Walker]

I don't think it is elitist.

Moore is neither new nor has it experienced the same kind of explosive growth as other areas of the region. Moore is very small in land area and locked in by Norman and Oklahoma City. The slow growth has been beneficial to property values because while there was not tremendous run up there was not a big let down either.

I'm not sure why you think it is not progressive. When I was young way back when the city government was terrible. There were nearly no standards for much of anything. But in the past couple of decades the government has improved tremendously. Standards now exist. Until a few years ago there wasn't even a place to buy a 2x4. There have been many projects undertaken just for beautification. For instance there have been many trees planted and there has been a real effort to clean things up. Is there more room for continued improvement? Certainly there is. But by any definition of progressive that I know it seems to me that the community deserves some credit.

Moore isn't trying to be Norman or Oklahoma City or Edmond or anything but Moore. Not everyone is going to like Moore but that's fine and as it should be.

But I admit I am a big fan of Stephen Covey and I do tend to look for win-win situations.

Thank you, someone who actually agrees with me in some areas! My main rationale for my argument is that Moore serves middle class people better then Norman. I am not poor, or rich, but I am middle class, and Moore seems to fit for me and my family. We will be in the Rock Creek Estates addition, which is far from Home Creations and Westpoint. The housing market in Moore is booming, and their infrastructure is better than Norman also. Moore as a whole, is not better than Norman, but you have to realize Norman is twice the size of Moore, so they will have more amenities to serve its population. However, it seems that the City of Moore, is serving its population more efficiently than Norman. The City of Moore has sound characteristics in the markets of retail, housing, and public services, which is very attractive.

[Jesseda]

G.Walker, my sister lives in the rock creek.. she lives off kelsi, she loves it there

[triumphrider74]

Time to move it to Moore section of the forum. . . and don't come back.

[ourelsjenn]

No one ever answered about the Crest Fresh Market in Norman. What is the scoop????

[dankrutka]

The Moore school system really excels because of the Oklahoma City (Westmoore) part of it's population. I never thought I'd hear someone describe Moore as more progressive than Norman. Moore is just now getting a temporary (and crappy) recycling location. Norman has curbside. Moore has generic strip malls and chain restaurants, while Norman has Campus Corner and great local food. Norman has a major university (with great museums, entertainment, and events), Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has a large downtown music festival. Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has good live music venues. Moore has, well, nothing comparable. I could go on and on.... Like others have said, Moore is what it is, but to say it is more progressive than Norman is an absolute joke.

[triumphrider74]

The Moore school system really excels because of the Oklahoma City (Westmoore) part of it's population. I never thought I'd hear someone describe Moore as more progressive than Norman. Moore is just now getting a temporary (and crappy) recycling location. Norman has curbside. Moore has generic strip malls and chain restaurants, while Norman has Campus Corner and great local food. Norman has a major university (with great museums, entertainment, and events), Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has a large downtown music festival. Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has good live music venues. Moore has, well, nothing comparable. I could go on and on.... Like others have said, Moore is what it is, but to say it is more progressive than Norman is an absolute joke.

Good post, Kilgore.

[flintysooner]

The Moore school system really excels because of the Oklahoma City (Westmoore) part of it's population. I never thought I'd hear someone describe Moore as more progressive than Norman. Moore is just now getting a temporary (and crappy) recycling location. Norman has curbside. Moore has generic strip malls and chain restaurants, while Norman has Campus Corner and great local food. Norman has a major university (with great museums, entertainment, and events), Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has a large downtown music festival. Moore has... well, nothing comparable. Norman has good live music venues. Moore has, well, nothing comparable. I could go on and on.... Like others have said, Moore is what it is, but to say it is more progressive than Norman is an absolute joke.

I suppose you were referring to one of my posts.

I believe Moore is progressive in the sense that the community including citizens and leaders have tried very hard to do something with the resources available and in many ways have achieved significant improvements for the community. You mention for instance the fact that Moore is just now working on recycling. You see that as failure because it does not meet the same standard as Norman's effort. It seems to me that it is quite progressive though to move from nothing to something and to be looking forward to further improvements.

Personally I see no reason to denigrate Norman or Oklahoma City or Edmond or any other community in the metropolitan area and really find it difficult to understand why others seem to have to always find worth by comparison.

[yessir69]

Do we need to put up a DMZ between Moore and Norman? Sure seems like a lot of anger over two neighbors that are probably more alike than you would all like to admit. Just as a matter of proximity, can the two towns really be that different???

[jmarkross]

Do we need to put up a DMZ between Moore and Norman? Sure seems like a lot of anger over two neighbors that are probably more alike than you would all like to admit. Just as a matter of proximity, can the two towns really be that different???

Been going on for at least 50 years--that I know of...