4th Street Underpass

[TornadoKegan]

Tecumseh Needs one 100%. especially since it contains US77 at that section.

[TornadoKegan]

Moore will likely fill up all its land within 10 years unless there is a land annex. my guess is they will straighten up the southern border with Norman, so they can take advantage of the turnpike.

[BoulderSooner]

Moore will likely fill up all its land within 10 years unless there is a land annex. my guess is they will straighten up the southern border with Norman, so they can take advantage of the turnpike.

why would norman want to do this?

[Jeremy Martin]

Moore will likely fill up all its land within 10 years unless there is a land annex. my guess is they will straighten up the southern border with Norman, so they can take advantage of the turnpike.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. Could you expand on "straighten up the southern boarder" and "take advantage of the turnpike?

[TornadoKegan]

I'm not sure what you are saying here. Could you expand on "straighten up the southern boarder" and "take advantage of the turnpike?

annexwturnpike.jpg


This is what I mean with "straighten up the southern border and taking advantage of the turnpike"

[TornadoKegan]

Looks like it is delayed again. this time it has a April 2024 construction let date

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https://spotlight-okdot.hub.arcgis.c...4fb982/explore

[rte66man]

Looks like it is delayed again. this time it has a April 2024 construction let date

image_2023-09-09_060947583.jpg

https://spotlight-okdot.hub.arcgis.c...4fb982/explore

ODOT hasn't updated the ArcGIS pages since June. The latest docs have it going out for bid in October (page8):
https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/...202308-aug.pdf

[bombermwc]

annexwturnpike.jpg


This is what I mean with "straighten up the southern border and taking advantage of the turnpike"

I wonder if there's any appetite to square up the whole city so there's less back and forth business going on with the border. I'm thinking the OKC folks may not want to though.

In Moore, we can't seem to pass the whole recycle thing, so they'd lose that. And it's not as though the surrounding OKC area is struggling in terms of services being provided. I think it would be a hard sell to convince the residents to make the move in those areas, honestly.

[TornadoKegan]

Does this project still have a June start date?

[TornadoKegan]

I saw some Is dirt work going on West of the tracks and between fourth and main?

[bille]

Does this project still have a June start date?

ODOT has pushed the contract let date (month) to August. Stated they may push it to September but that’s as far as they can push it. Not sure the reason for the push,

[jn1780]

ODOT has pushed the contract let date (month) to August. Stated they may push it to September but that’s as far as they can push it. Not sure the reason for the push,

Railroad related delays. Something to do with the railroad needing permission from Amtrack to cross the temp track at a certain speed. Now its September.

UPDATE:
*Originally scheduled for an April '24 letting, BNSF is waiting on approval from Amtrak to lower the speed on the shoofly that will be needed during construction. This, coupled with the utility relocation still ongoing, required an extension to the letting date of September 2024. Once the contract is awarded, construction typically begins after 90 days.

[bille]

Railroad related delays. Something to do with the railroad needing permission from Amtrack to cross the temp track at a certain speed. Now its September.

Now it’s October, per the city’s website. Haven’t spoken to the city manager lately to see if there’s been an update to the “it cannot be pushed any further” comment from a couple months ago. Looks like it’ll be at least into 2025 before construction begins.

[bombermwc]

I really thought they would have the buildings bought out and dozed by now that they need cleared. It doesn't look like anyone has done anything.

[rte66man]

As of 6/26, it was still on the Tentative September bid opening list

[jn1780]

I really thought they would have the buildings bought out and dozed by now that they need cleared. It doesn't look like anyone has done anything.

They already have the ROW they need. There is a heat and air company that is losing their front entrance, looks like they already built a new parking lot to the side of their building. Sharkey's Scuba and a barber shop are going to be the most affected. I don't see how they can survive without an entrance off of 4th street. Across the street is the Moore Public Schools supply warehouse which has plenty of entrances off of 4th street.

[BoulderSooner]

They already have the ROW they need. There is a heat and air company that is losing their front entrance, looks like they already built a new parking lot to the side of their building. Sharkey's Scuba and a barber shop are going to be the most affected. I don't see how they can survive without an entrance off of 4th street. Across the street is the Moore Public Schools supply warehouse which has plenty of entrances off of 4th street.

I would bet the scuba shop has a lot of intentional business ... meaning they will come find it .. and little random stop by business ..

i could see a big negative effect for the barber shop