Lumberyard

[Urbanized]

Lol just like we should trust Rainey Williams?

It can at least be documented that Rainey Williams owns significant commercial property and has access to capital.

[Urbanized]

The majority has questioned this from the beginning.

I think this is an overstatement.

But even so, what is the big deal here? Either this developer will close on the land and flip it or develop it themselves... Or not buy it at all.

What is the great cause for concern?

There are other possibilities.

[Pete]

There are other possibilities.

Such as?

[Spartan]

Perhaps someone should be? I still have not seen any evidence of experience with developments of this - or really any - scale whatsoever. Why is nobody actively questioning this? It's a fair question.

For me it just doesn't matter as much as questioning Rainey Williams. Lou C isn't tearing down the Stage Center.

[bombermwc]

Personally, I'd love to see this built. I'm going to turn into one of those finger-crossed "come on" kind of guys here.

Between this and a few of the small potential C2S projects, I really hope we start to see this kind of quality stuff going in.

I don't need every tower to be some world changing thing, and I actually like the design of this.

[BDP]

Perhaps someone should be? I still have not seen any evidence of experience with developments of this - or really any - scale whatsoever. Why is nobody actively questioning this? It's a fair question.

I think people are and Lackmeyer's article is largely focused on doing just that. It's certainly a fair question. I was just speaking more to the point of the boulevard's elevated section being an inherent negative for this site going forward. Whether it be with this concept or another, it will be a hurdle any developer will have to overcome.

[Bellaboo]

I think people are and Lackmeyer's article is largely focused on doing just that. It's certainly a fair question. I was just speaking more to the point of the boulevard's elevated section being an inherent negative for this site going forward. Whether it be with this concept or another, it will be a hurdle any developer will have to overcome.

I'm not sure just how elevated the boulevard will be at this point.? I wouldn't be a bit surprised it's not at ground level for pretty much the entire length of the Lumber Yard.

[BoulderSooner]

I'm not sure just how elevated the boulevard will be at this point.? I wouldn't be a bit surprised it's not at ground level for pretty much the entire length of the Lumber Yard.

It should be it elevates in the middle of then Hawkins theatre

[Tier2City]

I'm not sure just how elevated the boulevard will be at this point.? I wouldn't be a bit surprised it's not at ground level for pretty much the entire length of the Lumber Yard.

Going west, after Oklahoma the Boulevard has to start descending to reach 8-10' below current grade well before the current position of the BNSF tracks.

[shawnw]

Descends after the at-grade/street level intersection at Oklahoma and the Boulevard I thought.

[BoulderSooner]

Going west, after Oklahoma the Boulevard has to start descending to reach 8-10' below current grade well before the current position of the BNSF tracks.

Yes but you could build your site to match that declanation.

[BDP]

Yes but you could build your site to match that declanation.

I may be confused on what the boulevard is going to do at that point, but you have a good idea there.

[Bellaboo]

I may be confused on what the boulevard is going to do at that point, but you have a good idea there.

As I understand it, the boulevard goes under the elevated RR tracks. When the boulevard crosses the canal, it is already descending to ground level to the West. Bouldersooner says it will reach ground level at the midway point of the Harkins Theatre, which is on the East boundary of the Lumber Yard site.

[bombermwc]

The canal is already quite below grade at Bass Pro too. If the Blvd is at-grade by that point, you don't really have anything to do other than build straight over the canal. It's similar in elevation to the path at Reno in front of the theater. In order to tie back in, it has to start elevating at some point near there anyway though. Remember, the tie-in on the east end has a bridge already...crossing over 40. Like in most areas, the complication comes from the north/south roads. Currently, Compress is the only real access to the Co-Op aside from a few dirt paths (one of which does go under the tracks...7th). Of course it's all prime real estate to redevelop later, but until the Co-Op is gone, you really need to keep access available for semi sized traffic. It's a bit weird today with large trucks driving through the U-Haul lot to get to the Co-Op in a zig-zag pattern since there isn't a straight path to the facility anymore.

[Urbanized]

The canal is nowhere close to below grade at Bass Pro.

[shawnw]

The pillars for the elevation are already up near the canal and they are a bit higher than the bridge going over the canal for instance. I sent pics to Pete awhile back but don't think they got posted...

[Spartan]

Personally, I'd love to see this built. I'm going to turn into one of those finger-crossed "come on" kind of guys here.

Between this and a few of the small potential C2S projects, I really hope we start to see this kind of quality stuff going in.

I don't need every tower to be some world changing thing, and I actually like the design of this.

I agree. It's a beautiful tower and a well planned development. I too really just want this for the boulevard, especially while it's still up in the air if we will end up getting a decent "boulevard."

[Pete]

I've archived all the off-topic posts elsewhere, with apologies to anyone who had their comments moved.


Back to discussing the proposed Bricktown Towers, please.

[Chadanth]

I've archived all the off-topic posts elsewhere, with apologies to anyone who had their comments moved.


Back to discussing the proposed Bricktown Towers, please.

Will you add them to a thread and open it to discussion? I feel as though there is great value in both what happens here for the enthusiasts, and what Steve does for the broader community. It might merit further discussion and context.

[Pete]

Will you add them to a thread and open it to discussion? I feel as though there is great value in both what happens here for the enthusiasts, and what Steve does for the broader community. It might merit further discussion and context.

Feel free to start a new thread on that subject.

Many of the moved posts were not about that at all.

[soonerguru]

Where did the posts go?

[Jesseda]

So anymore news on this? are these towers going to be built or is this another pipe dream

[OKCisOK4me]

So anymore news on this? are these towers going to be built or is this another pipe dream

Pipedream...but fun pipedream.

[bchris02]

When I saw this thread bumped I thought maybe there would really be new development. Out of everything speculated, this is definitely the least likely project to actually happen.

[bombermwc]

It does have at least one thing so many of the mystery towers dont have...an actual rendering LOL.