Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[soonerguru]

I stand by what OSDH reports.

I am not sure what to think about OSDH. The Attorney General had to compel them to continue reporting information.

[SoonerDave]

I am not sure what to think about OSDH. The Attorney General had to compel them to continue reporting information.

That has no material impact on the veracity of the data reported Friday and Saturday on which the 2% computation was based.

[soonerguru]

That has no material impact on the veracity of the data reported Friday and Saturday on which the 2% computation was based.

OK. Final question: do you think the state has declined to a 2% positive testing rate? Yes or no.

[jerrywall]

I am not sure what to think about OSDH. The Attorney General had to compel them to continue reporting information.

I don't recall them having to be compelled. From what was reported at the time, they stopped once the Governor's emergency powers expired due to legal/privacy concerns, and resumed once the AG's office cleared them to continue. Is there more to the story I haven't seen?

[jn1780]

Wednesday through Friday looked promising with the trend being more linear than exponential. Midweek this week will tell us if this trend is continuing.

Were about 17 days now since the numbers started growing. I do expect the death rate to increase, but there has been significant improvements in treatment so that will keep the death rate down. The dexamethasone breakthrough was significant.

[kukblue1]

228 today. Looks like tomorrow there will be a COVID19 update from the governor at 2pm.

I'm sure he'll say all is fine cuz when you have a load number like this it helps your 7-Day average. What if we have 500 tomorrow your 7-Day average is still going to look good because of the low number today

[soonerguru]

I don't recall them having to be compelled. From what was reported at the time, they stopped once the Governor's emergency powers expired due to legal/privacy concerns, and resumed once the AG's office cleared them to continue. Is there more to the story I haven't seen?

They publicly announced they were going to stop releasing certain data, and then, after a phone call from the AG, they did a dustup and announced they would continue to release the same data.

[jerrywall]

They publicly announced they were going to stop releasing certain data, and then, after a phone call from the AG, they did a dustup and announced they would continue to release the same data.

Maybe they're dressing it up, but it seems less like they were compelled to do anything, and more that they suspended releasing data after the emergency powers ended until they received an opinion from the AG. That's why I was curious if there was more to the story.

I appreciate OSDH Interim Commissioner Lance Frye and Secretary of Health Jerome Loughridge, for bringing this matter to the attention of my office for review

http://www.oag.ok.gov/attorney-gener...o-release-data

[soonerguru]

Maybe they're dressing it up, but it seems less like they were compelled to do anything, and more that they suspended releasing data after the emergency powers ended until they received an opinion from the AG. That's why I was curious if there was more to the story.



http://www.oag.ok.gov/attorney-gener...o-release-data

You may be right, but that is just PR speak.

[SoonerDave]

OK. Final question: do you think the state has declined to a 2% positive testing rate? Yes or no.

I won't give an absolute answer because I don't have enough information to make an absolute conclusion either way. We don't have current total tests returned, and won't until tomorrow. So whether I think we are at 2% is irrelevant; the data says only that the positive test rate after Friday was 2%. We have new positives from Sunday, but no delta in tests returned, so a current calculation isn't possible right now.

I very much want to find out

[SoonerDave]

You may be right, but that is just PR speak.

The only data they initially stopped reporting was zip-code and facility breakdown data. The gross numbers for positives, tests returned, etc. was never at issue if I recall correctly.

[jn1780]

The only data they initially stopped reporting was zip-code and facility breakdown data. The gross numbers for positives, tests returned, etc. was never at issue if I recall correctly.

That was my understanding as well. They were just being overly cautious on how they aggregate data due to the law.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Found this to be interesting. Self-reported symptom tracker by county or zip code

https://okomes.cloud.looker.com/embe...boards-next/12

[chuck5815]

I’m surprised we’re not seeing more Ds and Hs given the record number of cases.

Are these cases being caught by young folks, or is the CV just getting weak AF?

[PoliSciGuy]

I’m surprised we’re not seeing more Ds and Hs given the record number of cases.

Are these cases being caught by young folks, or is the CV just getting weak AF?

Deaths and Hospitalizations lag. Folks that catch it in week 1 won't be hospitalized until week 2/3 and those that pass usually do so 3/4 weeks after first developing symptoms.

[jn1780]

I’m surprised we’re not seeing more Ds and Hs given the record number of cases.

Are these cases being caught by young folks, or is the CV just getting weak AF?

Some of it is young folk factor, some of it is death lag. We also weren't testing enough in the early days of the pandemic and missed a lot of cases. This is the biggest explanation in my opinion.

[chuck5815]

Deaths and Hospitalizations lag. Folks that catch it in week 1 won't be hospitalized until week 2/3 and those that pass usually do so 3/4 weeks after first developing symptoms.

the spike started in earnest on June 15. So, no, i’m not buying the death lag argument.

Seems like we’ve got a weaker virus, more testing, and positives skewing younger — or some combination thereof.

[PoliSciGuy]

the spike started in earnest on June 15. So, no, i’m not buying the death lag argument.

Seems like we’ve got a weaker virus, more testing, and positives skewing younger — or some combination thereof.

Median length of time from symptom onset to death is 18 days (https://www.drugs.com/medical-answer...death-3536264/). June 15th was 14 days ago. Do the math.

We won't see April-like numbers (thank god) due to young folks being the most infected, but the death numbers will go up especially around the 4th of July.

[jn1780]

the spike started in earnest on June 15. So, no, i’m not buying the death lag argument.

Seems like we’ve got a weaker virus, more testing, and positives skewing younger — or some combination thereof.

It is skewed toward younger people this round, data on that is pretty clear. I think if we actually knew about covid earlier and were actually aggressively testing, Feb -March would have looked like what were seeing now. More younger people having it.

[Bill Robertson]

According to OSDH Epidemiology Reports the median for symptom onset to hospitalization is 6 days and the median for symptom onset to death is 14 days.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Facemask order for Kansas starting Friday. Use of mask in all public settings.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...243879982.html

[Bill Robertson]

Facemask order for Kansas starting Friday. Use of mask in all public settings.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...243879982.html

Good for them. Hopefully enough states will do this that it this will spread everywhere.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Reshuffling the cabinet secretaries of health and mental health, and of Science. Sorry to see Dr. Kayse Shrum exit. She was an asset that was not deployed often enough. The OSU Health Sciences Center is lucky to have her.

[kukblue1]

Facemask order for Kansas starting Friday. Use of mask in all public settings.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/poli...243879982.html

Had eye exam today. Place i go takes walk ins and next to eyemart express. Was there 10am. Sign said must have mask however it was 50/50 people walking into eyemart express. I had to wait out in the car. There was one time the tech had her mask down around her chin while she was adjusting the machine. I just turned my head but who know what germs she got all over the eye machine. Glad i had my sanitizer and wore my mask the whole. i hope it helped. People just don't think about it do they.

[oilmud]

Had eye exam today. Place i go takes walk ins and next to eyemart express. Was there 10am. Sign said must have mask however it was 50/50 people walking into eyemart express. I had to wait out in the car. There was one time the tech had her mask down around her chin while she was adjusting the machine. I just turned my head but who know what germs she got all over the eye machine. Glad i had my sanitizer and wore my mask the whole. i hope it helped. People just don't think about it do they.

You needed an eye exam during a pandemic that badly?