Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[jedicurt]

was a crest in norman this morning, and the usualy 10% wearing masks was closer to 30%.

[TheTravellers]

BTW, I did some more research and learned that restaurants are required to report positive cases to the state.

But the state doesn't make that public in any way; just require the infected employee to be quarantined.

That's complete bullsh*t! This affects public health just like unsanitary restaurants do, an employee testing positive should be public knowledge just like health dept. inspections are.

Found out today there's a FB page called "Oklahoma Source" that aggregates that type of info and posts it, wife's now following them. They had info about a Mcloud school event where someone tested positive, county stats, linked to Pump Bar's post about their positive test, so it looks like it's way more informative about the public-type of things than anything I've seen.

[soonerguru]

I went to the Braums at May and 62nd yesterday. Not only was the staff preparing the food and waiting on customers not wearing masks, one was standing over the open ice cream containers scratching her scalp and repeatedly rubbing her nose then using the same hand to dip ice cream. It would be disgusting any time, but the lack of control and care of their customers at this particular time is abhorrent and totally irresponsible. It will be some time before I go back to Braums.

I will not visit Braum's for any reason until this is over. They don't demonstrate that they care about my health. They were allowed to stay open during the "shut down (lol)" because they have groceries, even though 85% of their guests are probably there to dine / get ice cream.

[soonerguru]

That's complete bullsh*t! This affects public health just like unsanitary restaurants do, an employee testing positive should be public knowledge just like health dept. inspections are.

Found out today there's a FB page called "Oklahoma Source" that aggregates that type of info and posts it, wife's now following them. They had info about a Mcloud school event where someone tested positive, county stats, linked to Pump Bar's post about their positive test, so it looks like it's way more informative about the public-type of things than anything I've seen.

I added Oklahoma Source as a follow this week. They are producing some extremely valuable reporting. For what.it's worth, the Oklahoman seems to have moved into a "ho hum" level of reporting.

[kukblue1]

I will not visit Braum's for any reason until this is over. They don't demonstrate that they care about my health. They were allowed to stay open during the "shut down (lol)" because they have groceries, even though 85% of their guests are probably there to dine / get ice cream.

No plexiglass at their registers. No marking off 6ft on the floor. When they were allowed to reopen no blocking off dining room tables. people were begging them to at least sell milk through drive-thru especially for seniors which they didn't do

[Bill Robertson]

Might be nothing to do with COVID but since March we’ve been getting curbside from Johnnies NW Exp every Sunday night. Just now their system says that the NW Exp store is not accepting orders. Could be some other reason but right now that’s the first thought.

[TheTravellers]

No plexiglass at their registers. No marking off 6ft on the floor. When they were allowed to reopen no blocking off dining room tables. people were begging them to at least sell milk through drive-thru especially for seniors which they didn't do

Braum's hasn't given a sh*t about their customers or their stores for years, I stopped going there long ago, and this just solidifies my opinion that the owners suck massively.

[Bill Robertson]

Braum's hasn't given a sh*t about their customers or their stores for years, I stopped going there long ago, and this just solidifies my opinion that the owners suck massively.

We stopped going to their stores a few years ago mainly because loads of ice cream with all kinds of stuff on it didn’t fit with really needing to lose weight. But now I will never set foot in one for any reason.

[Bill Robertson]

I added Oklahoma Source as a follow this week. They are producing some extremely valuable reporting. For what.it's worth, the Oklahoman seems to have moved into a "ho hum" level of reporting.

I just checked it out and followed it too. Looks pretty solid.

[Bill Robertson]

Ordered from Johnnies on May/Memorial since NWX store says they’re not accepting orders. Driving from Hefner/Rockwell I was kind if surprised at the restaurants. Interuban, Charlstons, Bricktown Brewery, Earl’s, etc. pretty much all had no more than a handful of cars parked outside. Johnnies had three people in the dining room. Last week about the same time of day everything I went by seemed quite a bit busier. Are people maybe paying attention? Twin Peaks was packed but 20 to 40 year old guys are untouchable.

[TheTravellers]

I just checked it out and followed it too. Looks pretty solid.

Was reading their feed and saw a notice about Bellini's from a few days back that 2 servers have tested positive, and they verified it:

"We have screen shots from the manager texting an employee who had been tested. She told the employee to come in anyway. We had chosen not to show this to protect the identity of that employee. Of course there’s always people who demand to know so they can harass a min. wage employee. It appears that they’ve fired the employee."

Was looking forward to going to Bellini's now that Tommy Byrd was back in charge, but no damn way am I supporting him now. I'm going to start asking restaurants we get take-out from if they've had anybody test positive and if so, not ordering from them. Ridiculous that positive test results are not being reported to the public - probably too many of them, sadly...

[Bill Robertson]

Was reading their feed and saw a notice about Bellini's from a few days back that 2 servers have tested positive, and they verified it:

"We have screen shots from the manager texting an employee who had been tested. She told the employee to come in anyway. We had chosen not to show this to protect the identity of that employee. Of course there’s always people who demand to know so they can harass a min. wage employee. It appears that they’ve fired the employee."

Was looking forward to going to Bellini's now that Tommy Byrd was back in charge, but no damn way am I supporting him now. I'm going to start asking restaurants we get take-out from if they've had anybody test positive and if so, not ordering from them. Ridiculous that positive test results are not being reported to the public - probably too many of them, sadly...

This virus is really showing the very worst of human nature.

[TheTravellers]

This virus is really showing the very worst of human nature.

Apparently to a huge number of people, it really is all about the Benjamins, screw absolutely everything else in pursuit of that. And yes, I realize that restaurants have to pay rent to they have to make money, and ditto all the way up the ladder (and down it too), but this has exposed that sheer massive capitalism on this scale without *real* social safety nets is not a functional way to run a city, state, or nation.

[catcherinthewry]

Over 10,000 new cases in Florida today. Good grief.

I saw on twitter that they have more active cases than Europe.

[Bill Robertson]

Apparently to a huge number of people, it really is all about the Benjamins, screw absolutely everything else in pursuit of that. And yes, I realize that restaurants have to pay rent to they have to make money, and ditto all the way up the ladder (and down it too), but this has exposed that sheer massive capitalism on this scale without *real* social safety nets is not a functional way to run a city, state, or nation.

Amen!!!

[mugofbeer]

Apparently to a huge number of people, it really is all about the Benjamins, screw absolutely everything else in pursuit of that. And yes, I realize that restaurants have to pay rent to they have to make money, and ditto all the way up the ladder (and down it too), but this has exposed that sheer massive capitalism on this scale without *real* social safety nets is not a functional way to run a city, state, or nation.

Serious question. How would you resolve this situation while remaining a free society and a place where anyone has the opportunity to be successful?

[HangryHippo]

Mug, isn’t that a bit dramatic?

[dankrutka]

Serious question. How would you resolve this situation while remaining a free society and a place where anyone has the opportunity to be successful?

You’re going to have to define “free society.” Because i can’t see any thoughtful analysis that would think mask requirements for public health during a pandemic would move us out of the “free society” category. There are thousands of regulations and laws we all follow every day. This really isn’t different.

To your second point, NOT wearing masks certainly is a greater economic and freedom harm then wearing them. Many people are excluded from economic opportunities and participation due to health concerns that can be mitigated by mask wearing. Moreover, mask wearing slows the spread of a virus that’s wreaking economic havoc. The most pro-economy thing you can do is wear a mask.

If you think a “free society” is one where you do whatever you want then you’ve never lived in a “free society.”

[Plutonic Panda]

You’re going to have to define “free society.” Because i can’t see any thoughtful analysis that would think mask requirements for public health during a pandemic would move us out of the “free society” category. There are thousands of regulations and laws we all follow every day. This really isn’t different.

This type of mentality is what leads to authoritarian governments.

“Oh, it’s only one more law/regulation” “we already have others why not more”

If individual businesses want to mandate masks, fine. If the we want to allow workers to quit until the pandemic is officially over for health concerns and be eligible for benefits, fine. If people want to stay home and shelter in place voluntarily, fine. Government mandating that or forcing people to wear masks? F@ck no!

[mugofbeer]

Apparently to a huge number of people, it really is all about the Benjamins, screw absolutely everything else in pursuit of that. And yes, I realize that restaurants have to pay rent to they have to make money, and ditto all the way up the ladder (and down it too), but this has exposed that sheer massive capitalism on this scale without *real* social safety nets is not a functional way to run a city, state, or nation.

I'm not being dramatic at all. The post says it's all about $ and says sheer massive capitalism without safety nets is not a way to run a country. I am seriously curious what he would do about it while maintaining our freedoms? Respectfully, It's not a hard question to understand.

[jccouger]

Was reading their feed and saw a notice about Bellini's from a few days back that 2 servers have tested positive, and they verified it:

"We have screen shots from the manager texting an employee who had been tested. She told the employee to come in anyway. We had chosen not to show this to protect the identity of that employee. Of course there’s always people who demand to know so they can harass a min. wage employee. It appears that they’ve fired the employee."

Was looking forward to going to Bellini's now that Tommy Byrd was back in charge, but no damn way am I supporting him now. I'm going to start asking restaurants we get take-out from if they've had anybody test positive and if so, not ordering from them. Ridiculous that positive test results are not being reported to the public - probably too many of them, sadly...

Can you link to this please?

[dankrutka]

With all due respect, this type of mentality is what leads to authoritarian governments.

Many of the governments most flaunting mask wearing are led by authoritarians. In ancient Greece, they called people who were committed to the common good citizens; they called those who selfishly pursue only their own narrow interests idiots. The most ancient understandings of democracy are always grounded in public interest, not some kind of selfish individualism. In the most classic democratic terms, idiocy is not wearing a mask.

[PoliSciGuy]

I'm not being dramatic at all. The post says it's all about $ and says sheer massive capitalism without safety nets is not a way to run a country. I am seriously curious what he would do about it while maintaining our freedoms? Respectfully, It's not a hard question to understand.

*Gestures to all of Europe, Japan, South Korea*

edit: Also, this is the OKC covid thread, not a politics one, so let's keep this on track

[dankrutka]

*Gestures to all of Europe, Japan, South Korea*

Also all the countries who have governments, economies, and health care systems faring better than the U.S. during this pandemic.

[Plutonic Panda]

Many of the governments most flaunting mask wearing are led by authoritarians. In ancient Greece, they called people who were committed to the common good citizens; they called those who selfishly pursue only their own narrow interests idiots. The most ancient understandings of democracy are always grounded in public interest, not some kind of selfish individualism. In the most classic democratic terms, idiocy is not wearing a mask.

Okay well you should go live in those authoritarian government regimes and enjoy. I’m good and I’ll stick here in America and not just constantly tell myself “it’s only one more law”