OKC Mayor Race 2014

[SoonerDave]

FWIW, KWTV is promoting the release of mayoral polling data on their 10pm newscast tonight (25 Feb).

[warreng88]

FWIW, KWTV is promoting the release of mayoral polling data on their 10pm newscast tonight (25 Feb).

It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I would guess Mick 60%, ES 35%, Other 5% +/- 2%

[SoonerDave]

It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I would guess Mick 60%, ES 35%, Other 5% +/- 2%

Wow - I would be stunned (and more than a little edgy) if it were even that close. I'm hoping Mick has a number well into the mid/upper 60's, but we'll see. And, of course, the poll numbers don't mean a thing in the light of day if turnout is skewed sideways for some reason.

[mkjeeves]

Speaking of that special Oklahoma corporation buying Mick ads, all my OKCtalk banners are now OKCUnited/Catalyst ads. Anyone else getting that? I don't recall having done any searches that would have earned me that cookie. I'm guessing it's the bots reading the page. Hello, Larry, is that you?

[warreng88]

Wow - I would be stunned (and more than a little edgy) if it were even that close. I'm hoping Mick has a number well into the mid/upper 60's, but we'll see. And, of course, the poll numbers don't mean a thing in the light of day if turnout is skewed sideways for some reason.

I think he will poll a lot better than the actual results will be. I think the polling on MAPS3 was a lot higher than the 53-54% it won with.

[mkjeeves]

It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I would guess Mick 60%, ES 35%, Other 5% +/- 2%

I expect some numbers like that but nothing would surprise me either direction.

[Mr. Cotter]

Speaking of that special Oklahoma corporation buying Mick ads, all my OKCtalk banners are now OKCUnited/Catalyst ads. Anyone else getting that? I don't recall having done any searches that would have earned me that cookie. I'm guessing it's the bots reading the page. Hello, Larry, is that you?

It's a geotargeted Google ad. Just having an OKC IP address will get you those - no bot reading required.

[mkjeeves]

It's a geotargeted Google ad. Just having an OKC IP address will get you those - no bot reading required.

Gotcha. That makes sense for this particular advertisement. I've noticed some banner ads on this site seem to be related to the content at times but that may never be the case.

Thank dog for the wonders of advertising and corporate personhood.

[kevinpate]

being okc targeted would explain why I haven't seen it. Many of my ads tend to reflect whatever my lovely has been shopping or wish listing.

[mkjeeves]

They link back to this site, a big fluffy towel for your brain.

Support OKC | OKC United

[betts]

All I have is Tapatalk. Are they smart enough to know I don't need an ad?

[mkjeeves]

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City - Ed Shadid

[mkjeeves]

All I have is Tapatalk. Are they smart enough to know I don't need an ad?

Are you saying there are no ads on Tapatalk or none of the ad's in question? My guess is it has a different ad structure than the full site. (I haven't tried Tapatalk yet.)

[Midtowner]

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City - Ed Shadid

All of his points have already been addressed and some of the things he's saying were huge victories, e.g., The Plaza district happened with Cornett as mayor.

--and considering Shadid will not have the support of the Council, how does he intend to change anything?

[DoctorTaco]

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City

5 Ways MAPS 4 Neighborhoods Could Transform Oklahoma City - Ed Shadid

From the link, "I support the creation of a comprehensive plan. We have not had a new one in 30 years. This will give us an idea of what different types of growth patterns will cost in terms of long-term maintenance and delivery of services. We need to develop a fiscally-conservative approach to growth which allows us to protect what we have already built."

See this is what kills me about the guy. "We need a new comprehensive plan". Nevermind that PlanOKC has been in the works for years and is set to complete this year. He doesn't even mention it. Is PlanOKC not good enough? OK, tell us why it is not good enough. Don't just talk about the need for a comprehensive plan like it is your idea, when in fact a new comprehensive plan has been under construction since before Shadid even joined the council.

Aargh.

[Edgar]

Shadid makes a good point about the downtown park. Outside Bricktown most of downtown is the zombie apocalypse and you're going to build a huge park for a couple 1000 residents. Peopel enjoy the park near home. Mom enjoys Stars and Stripes every day weather permitting, doubt she'll ever drive Carlos the chiweenie downtown. Given climate realities seems like another pei plan. Isn't getting any wetter and Canton never filled back up.

[jerrywall]

It's actually nice that for a change he's promoting something specific he's for, instead of bland generalities, glad handing, and attacks. Of course, considering that he'd have the same vote as mayor that he did as councilman, why didn't he propose/push this during his time as councilman?

[Edgar]

From the link, "I support the creation of a comprehensive plan. We have not had a new one in 30 years. This will give us an idea of what different types of growth patterns will cost in terms of long-term maintenance and delivery of services. We need to develop a fiscally-conservative approach to growth which allows us to protect what we have already built."

See this is what kills me about the guy. "We need a new comprehensive plan". Nevermind that PlanOKC has been in the works for years and is set to complete this year. He doesn't even mention it. Is PlanOKC not good enough? OK, tell us why it is not good enough. Don't just talk about the need for a comprehensive plan like it is your idea, when in fact a new comprehensive plan has been under construction since before Shadid even joined the council.

Aargh.

The planning people haven't been invited to the meetings- why they all left. Couldn't get a straight answer out of Couch yesterday on Steve's chat as to the reason for the exodus, but I suspect expert professions expected to be invited to the meetings where the actual planning happened.
Odd twist isn't it- the ultra conservative candidate has helped put OKC on a path of financial ruin, while the progressive is counciling caution, take a deep breath and let's really think this through in a public transparent manner.

[mkjeeves]

It's actually nice that for a change he's promoting something specific he's for, instead of bland generalities, glad handing, and attacks. Of course, considering that he'd have the same vote as mayor that he did as councilman, why didn't he propose/push this during his time as councilman?

He's been saying and posting stuff like this all along, but you can't tell it by this board, the deaf ears, restatements and denials by his haters.

[jerrywall]

Tin foil hats again! "financial ruin".... what planet are you living on?

[jerrywall]

He's been saying and posting stuff like this all along, but you can't tell it by this board, the deaf ears, restatements and denials by his haters.

Not really...

His blog and facebook focuses on stuff like this... (these are actual titles of the majority of his recent posts.)

TV Commercial: I Cannot Be Bought

Cornett Refuses To Debate

Shadid, Hughes, Nelson Face-off Monday; Cornett Won't Debate

Lack of Diversity in Mick Cornett's 1,117 Appointments

Black History Month Celebration

Glad handing, attacks, generalities. This on the other-hand is a mostly positive, plan-focused post. It's still full of untruths and spin, but it's something at least.

[PhiAlpha]

Shadid makes a good point about the downtown park. Outside Bricktown most of downtown is the zombie apocalypse and you're going to build a huge park for a couple 1000 residents. Peopel enjoy the park near home. Mom enjoys Stars and Stripes every day weather permitting, doubt she'll ever drive Carlos the chiweenie downtown. Given climate realities seems like another pei plan. Isn't getting any wetter and Canton never filled back up.

I guess we shouldn't have paid for the canal, ball park, arena, river improvements, or the myriad gardens for the 200 residents downtown at the time they were built either. Bricktown wasn't far from apocolyptic back then.

[betts]

The planning people haven't been invited to the meetings- why they all left. Couldn't get a straight answer out of Couch yesterday on Steve's chat as to the reason for the exodus, but I suspect expert professions expected to be invited to the meetings where the actual planning happened.
Odd twist isn't it- the ultra conservative candidate has helped put OKC on a path of financial ruin, while the progressive is counciling caution, take a deep breath and let's really think this through in a public transparent manner.

Oh really? You have the reason the planning people "all left" on good authority? And OKC is on the path to financial ruin? That's news to me. Especially since every project planned has to be paid for in advance. Until you collect the money, you can't start the project. Also, at least according to cafeboeuf, OKC's plan was updated in 2000. And as Dr. Taco stated, is he ignoring PlanOKC?

Also, how do you get a MAPS 4 passed when you create paranoia in your voters, when you sabotage MAPS 3, when you try to divide the "downtown" from the "neighborhoods"? Has he told all his tea-party friends he's planning more taxes?

[SoonerDave]

Oh really? You have the reason the planning people "all left" on good authority? And OKC is on the path to financial ruin? That's news to me. Especially since every project planned has to be paid for in advance. Until you collect the money, you can't start the project.

This is the ONE fact throughout ALL this discussion that I think Ed hopes we ignore. There IS no plan on the table for funding anything other than the current iteration of the convention center. Lots of talk. Lots of hype. Lots of he-said/she-said. But there's nothing on the table at all right now - but a lot is being discussed.

Isn't discussion precisely what good, representative, democratic government is all about? I'm as much if not more conservative than most here, and even *I* (conservative propeller-head tin-hats firmly affixed ) can't see where the "AIIIEEEEEE - FINANCIAL RUIN" chicken little business is coming from. Yes, if we fund other phases of the CC, they'll have to be funded somehow - but if something more legally binding or concrete than that notion is out there right now that I don't know about, I sure wish someone would share it. Is some legal beagle holding a collective gun to OKC's heads and demanding we commit to a funding process right now that obliges us to Certain Financial Doom (insert dramatic music stab here)??

[OSUFan]

He's been saying and posting stuff like this all along, but you can't tell it by this board, the deaf ears, restatements and denials by his haters.

I actually think you are a great example why people shouldn't vote for him. You've spent months and 120 thread pages defending almost every action Shadid has taken and being critical of almost everything to do with Cornett. Yet you still say you aren't for Shadid. To me that says a ton. Even people who agree with him on almost everything are having a hard time actually wanting to vote for him.