2014 Oklahoma Commercial Aviation Discussion

[catch22]

Not that I noticed. I searched weekdays in July.

[venture]

DFW diversions for yesterday...

AA1037 Calgary (YYC) American Airlines MD82 N7541A Diverted to OKC
AA1038 Toronto (YYZ) American Airlines A319 N4005X Diverted to OKC
AA1602 Sacramento (SMF) American Airlines MD83 N974TW Diverted to OKC
AA2441 Phoenix (PHX) American Airlines MD83 N9409F Diverted to OKC
AA315 Las Vegas (LAS) American Airlines B738 N847NN Diverted to OKC
AA3576 Sioux Falls (FSD) American Airlines E145 N902BC Diverted to OKC
AA43 Detroit (DTW) American Airlines MD82 N481AA Diverted to OKC
AA79 London (LHR) American Airlines B772 N787AL Diverted to OKC
AA942 Minneapolis (MSP) American Airlines B738 N939AN Diverted to OKC
DL1499 Detroit (DTW) Delta Air Lines A320 N363NW Diverted to OKC
UA3485 Chicago (ORD) United Airlines E170 N855RW Diverted to OKC

[warreng88]

DFW diversions for yesterday...

AA1037 Calgary (YYC) American Airlines MD82 N7541A Diverted to OKC
AA1038 Toronto (YYZ) American Airlines A319 N4005X Diverted to OKC
AA1602 Sacramento (SMF) American Airlines MD83 N974TW Diverted to OKC
AA2441 Phoenix (PHX) American Airlines MD83 N9409F Diverted to OKC
AA315 Las Vegas (LAS) American Airlines B738 N847NN Diverted to OKC
AA3576 Sioux Falls (FSD) American Airlines E145 N902BC Diverted to OKC
AA43 Detroit (DTW) American Airlines MD82 N481AA Diverted to OKC
AA79 London (LHR) American Airlines B772 N787AL Diverted to OKC
AA942 Minneapolis (MSP) American Airlines B738 N939AN Diverted to OKC
DL1499 Detroit (DTW) Delta Air Lines A320 N363NW Diverted to OKC
UA3485 Chicago (ORD) United Airlines E170 N855RW Diverted to OKC

Why? What happened?

[venture]

Why? What happened?

Storms

[Jeepnokc]

So did they bus them down or wait out the storms?

[venture]

So did they bus them down or wait out the storms?

They normally just hold them on the aircraft and fly out when able.

[HangryHippo]

Venture, do you think we see AA add Philly soon? I can't remember your passenger statistics for the route, but it seems like it would be nice to get connected to the hub there.

[Dubya61]

So, what happens when a flight diverts? Does the airline get charged by the OKC airport to land here? or is it just an extended professional courtesy? For stormy weather like yesterday, what's the average time on the tarmac(?) for a plane on its way to DFW? and do they usually refuel? If its a domestic flight, are the passengers ever let off?

[catch22]

OKC had 3 UA diversions. One landed and then they took the aircraft back to ORD.

2 continued on to DFW.

[catch22]

So, what happens when a flight diverts? Does the airline get charged by the OKC airport to land here? or is it just an extended professional courtesy? For stormy weather like yesterday, what's the average time on the tarmac(?) for a plane on its way to DFW? and do they usually refuel? If its a domestic flight, are the passengers ever let off?

Yes they are charged. They sit as long as it takes. And yes they refuel.

[catch22]

Whether or not passengers stay on depends on several factors. But in order to refuel, the main cabin door has to be open and stairs have to be attached. So while that is going on, passengers who want off are given that opportunity to terminate in OKC. Bags would not be offloaded. If the ground delay program is increasing, the aircraft will be brought to a gate and deplaned. The ORD-DFW UA flight offloaded around 60 passengers. And left back to ORD with 7.

[warreng88]

Storms

Oh, duh. Wonder how long people were stuck in the airport and if the restaurants in the airport were well equipped to handle the diversion.

[ljbab728]

Oh, duh. Wonder how long people were stuck in the airport and if the restaurants in the airport were well equipped to handle the diversion.

The number of passengers that were deplaned would be no problem for the airport restaurants to handle even if they all wanted to eat. The bars could get a little bombarded, however.

[Jeepnokc]

Although I am not in on the airline gossip, I am having drinks with a friend that is and he says that Alaska Airlines is merging with DL by the fourth quarter. Any truth to that and any chance of that helping us?

[catch22]

They aren't. There was an April fools article that went out. Alaska is not merging.

[Jeepnokc]

They aren't. There was an April fools article that went out. Alaska is not merging.

Wow...apparently it worked as some of the DL flight attendants believe it. I mean this sincerely as I trust Catch 22 on aviation subjects which is why I posted it as I know a few of the people on here like catch and venture would know

[venture]

I have to think we are done with mergers for awhile now. I can't see any way others could merge, at least among the big 4, without requiring a ton of concessions from the DOJ.

[s00nr1]

Would have enjoyed seeing the new AA livery on a 772 in OKC. Bummed I missed it.

DFW diversions for yesterday...

AA1037 Calgary (YYC) American Airlines MD82 N7541A Diverted to OKC
AA1038 Toronto (YYZ) American Airlines A319 N4005X Diverted to OKC
AA1602 Sacramento (SMF) American Airlines MD83 N974TW Diverted to OKC
AA2441 Phoenix (PHX) American Airlines MD83 N9409F Diverted to OKC
AA315 Las Vegas (LAS) American Airlines B738 N847NN Diverted to OKC
AA3576 Sioux Falls (FSD) American Airlines E145 N902BC Diverted to OKC
AA43 Detroit (DTW) American Airlines MD82 N481AA Diverted to OKC
AA79 London (LHR) American Airlines B772 N787AL Diverted to OKC
AA942 Minneapolis (MSP) American Airlines B738 N939AN Diverted to OKC
DL1499 Detroit (DTW) Delta Air Lines A320 N363NW Diverted to OKC
UA3485 Chicago (ORD) United Airlines E170 N855RW Diverted to OKC

[catch22]

Wow...apparently it worked as some of the DL flight attendants believe it. I mean this sincerely as I trust Catch 22 on aviation subjects which is why I posted it as I know a few of the people on here like catch and venture would know

Flight attendants and pilots are probably the most gullible and least-trustworthy work groups as far as factual information is concerned.

Flight attendants always have a merger in their mouth, and pilots always have a new airplane type coming to the fleet. ExpressJet pilot told me several weeks ago that AirTran really bought out Southwest and kept the Southwest name. What?! Okay...

[OUman]

^It's surprising a pilot would actually say that.

[catch22]

March statistics.


http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/Mar...nplanement.pdf

[Plutonic Panda]

Found this in the Journal Record



Infographic: OKC?s unfriendly skies | The Journal Record

[catch22]

Excellent journalism...

They got United and Delta mixed up...

http://www.flyokc.com/statistics/Jan...nplanement.pdf

Another outstanding article about aviation....

[venture]

The infamous "[Insert Periodical Name Here] Staff" wrote it. I guess it is to hide the incompetence of the person that does their research?

[warreng88]

For anyone talking about OKC becoming a hub, I thought this was a pretty interesting read:

7 American Airports That Are Struggling After Losing Hub Status - TheRichest