NCAA Conference Realignment

[ljbab728]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...-big-12-season

[MDot]

I hope they do just to shut the Big East up. Their "rules and regulations" have gotten to me with this whole West Virginia to the Big XII crap.

[ljbab728]

It's sort of like when the Big 12 had Baylor threatening a lawsuit to keep A & M from leaving. It was pointless and wasn't going to solve anything in the long run. I understand why you need penalties to avoid complete chaos but some things are gong to happen anyway when a school is determined. Boise is faced with the possiblity of a $21 million fee to leave for the Big East.

[MDot]

It's sort of like when the Big 12 had Baylor threatening a lawsuit to keep A & M from leaving. It was pointless and wasn't going to solve anything in the long run. I understand why you need penalties to avoid complete chaos but some things are gong to happen anyway when a school is determined. Boise is faced with the possiblity of a $21 million fee to leave for the Big East.

Seriously? They haven't even committed to join the Big East in public yet and the Big East is already trying to fine them. Lol

[venture]

Seriously? They haven't even committed to join the Big East in public yet and the Big East is already trying to fine them. Lol

To leave FOR the Big East. LOL Its Okay, I had to re-read it again because I tend to skim through things quick.

[MDot]

To leave FOR the Big East. LOL Its Okay, I had to re-read it again because I tend to skim through things quick.

Lol my mistake. I see it now though.

[dankrutka]

It's sort of like when the Big 12 had Baylor threatening a lawsuit to keep A & M from leaving. It was pointless and wasn't going to solve anything in the long run. I understand why you need penalties to avoid complete chaos but some things are gong to happen anyway when a school is determined. Boise is faced with the possiblity of a $21 million fee to leave for the Big East.

Actually, as stupid and hypocritical as it was, Baylor's lawsuit might have stalled things enough to keep the Big 12 together.

[venture]

Boise State got authorization today to accept the invite to the Big East. The rest should come down tomorrow.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/33096361

[ljbab728]

Boise State got authorization today to accept the invite to the Big East. The rest should come down tomorrow.

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/33096361

Unfortunately for them, that won't really be much of a schedule upgrade given the defections from the Big East. And who knows for sure at this point if the Big East will be able to keep their BCS game guarantee. The money will obviously be an upgrade for them, however.

[dankrutka]

I disagree. Even with the schools remaining, it's an upgrade. You have to understand how bad their schedule is now with teams like Wyoming, SDSU, UNLV, and CSU. Louisville (if they stay), Cincy (same), UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, Navy, Air Force, Houston, SMU, UCF is a decent upgrade over the current Mountain West. If you lose Louisville and Cincy it's only a slight upgrade.

THe Big East should definitely lose it's AQ status either way though. They really should have years ago. They put a fairly weak team in the BCS often.

[ljbab728]

I disagree. Even with the schools remaining, it's an upgrade. You have to understand how bad their schedule is now with teams like Wyoming, SDSU, UNLV, and CSU. Louisville (if they stay), Cincy (same), UConn, Rutgers, South Florida, Navy, Air Force, Houston, SMU, UCF is a decent upgrade over the current Mountain West. If you lose Louisville and Cincy it's only a slight upgrade.

THe Big East should definitely lose it's AQ status either way though. They really should have years ago. They put a fairly weak team in the BCS often.

I didn't say it wasn't an upgrade, I said it wasn't much of an upgrade and I still believe that.

This is nothing official, but I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...top-conference

I don't think this will be a permanent solution for them but they may not have a good permanent solution available at the moment and they're looking to legitimize their program.

[venture]

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs....56338/33107253

Big East today filed a counter suit to require WVU to follow the 27-month notice period before they can withdraw from the conference. Not sure how this case is going to go, since WVU did help make this rule. If they are held to stick to it, it could raise major issues for the Big 12. The conference has already stated that their media contracts require the conference to have 10-teams. If Missouri leaves and we are stuck with 9, that could mean the Big 12 would then be in violation of those agreements.

At the end of the day, WVU is a good addition, but they should not stop there. They need to get an invite to another school - preferably non-Big East - in order to make sure they meet the minimum requirements for the media contracts. I suppose they could go back and renegotiate them, but that can open another can of worms. It really might be to time to go out and really try to get BYU, Air Force, or Colorado State to be the 10th. Then make an offer to Cincy, UL, and Notre Dame to finish out the 14. Pulling 3 more schools from the Big East (granted only 2 are in football), with the other 3 already leaving should make it easier to get the waiting period waived. Then everyone can move on with their lives and be happy. Otherwise, this crap will go on for another 2-3 years.

[MDot]

Seriously, why do they want this to go on for so long? Just let WVU go and lets move on.

[dankrutka]

I wish they'd let it go, but it's a smart move to buy themselves time to stabilize their conference. Baylor did the same thing and it worked.

[MDot]

I wish they'd let it go, but it's a smart move to buy themselves time to stabilize their conference. Baylor did the same thing and it worked.

Point taken. And it's a good one.

[venture]

Here it is finally...

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs....56338/33119185

A Sporting News report Saturday cited a "high-placed SEC source" that said the Tigers would be officially announced as the SEC's 14th team "early next week," possibly as soon as this Monday. Mike Slive declined to comment on the source's information.

Big 12 needs to invite another team now, that isn't tied down in the Big East's long waiting period.

[venture]

SEC's official announcement:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...souri-for-2012

[venture]

OU is being grumpy is seems. Although, it is nice that they are actually making sense right now saying that 10 schools is wrong.

http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs....56338/33219479

“We have to explore what type of growth would have to be better for our conference,” the source told Tramel. “There’s no data that a conference of 16 is better than a conference of 12. In our case, the number is not the issue so much as the quality. But to make it better for West Virginia, we have to add Louisville. For our conference stability, adding Louisville is good for us because it would be good for West Virginia. The more we can get people to start talking about the greater good, the more stable this conference can become.”

Tramel also spoke to Oklahoma athletic direcotor Joe Castiglione who also believes that the Big 12 should look to add more schools.

“I think what Chuck might be doing is settling everything down, not letting speculation develop,” Castiglione said. “He may very well believe that staying at 10 is the best thing, and I respect that. But I don’t believe we should stay at 10, not with other moving parts.”

From what it seems, Joe and others are OU know what is going on. SEC is now at 14. Big East is going invite crazy. ACC is probably going to go to 14. Big Ten and PAC-12 are comfortable sitting at 12, but for how long...especially when the PAC was ready to go to 16. The Big 12 is looking at being the smallest AQ conference, and that might not be a good thing when the current BCS gets replaced in 2014. A lot of speculation right now are for the Top 8 in the BCS to go to the big bowl games and then add a Plus 1 title game. It is a given that a conference with bigger numbers will get more of those spots. Not to mention that the conferences will be able to send more teams, hypothetically, if they all don't have to play each other every year.

Neinas needs to stop worrying about being stable at 10 (which Texas wants) and get the conference back to 12 where it will appear more secure to interested teams. Otherwise, who is to say that OU won't try to bolt for the PAC again. Yeah we gave up our media rights...but everything can be bought out and who is to say the Big 12 survives if OU leaves. Since it would be logical that the same package deal would exist with OU taking OSU and perhaps Texas and TTU.

Just need to invite Cincy and UL now and be done with it. If we want to be even more secure and go to 14, toss out invites to Air Force, BYU, and/or Notre Dame.

[dankrutka]

The most unstable thing the Big 12 could do is stay at 10 teams. It's baffling that they don't understand that. Going to 12 (Louisville, Cincy) or 14 makes way too much sense for the Big 12 to do it though. Neinas is proving to be no more competent than Bebee.

[MDot]

The most unstable thing the Big 12 could do is stay at 10 teams. It's baffling that they don't understand that. Going to 12 (Louisville, Cincy) or 14 makes way too much sense for the Big 12 to do it though. Neinas is proving to be no more competent than Bebee.

Agreed. Although if I would've said it I would've wrote a 10 sentence rant about it not just make it simple and calm the way you did. Lol I tend to make my feelings known in the harshest way possible.

[venture]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...2_a3&eref=sihp

Some important bits...

"BYU to the Big East is dead. It's not going to happen," the person said.
The Big East was trying to add BYU as part of its plan to expand westward and become a 12-team football league.
At issue are television rights. The person says BYU wanted to retain the rights to its home football games and the league could not agree to that.

Temple, which plays in the Mid-American Conference and was once in the Big East, has been trying to get back in. East Carolina, another C-USA school, publicly announced it had applied for membership last month, and C-USA rival Memphis has also been pushed by some in the Big East for its excellent basketball program, most notably Louisville coach Rick Pitino.
But Boise State, which is nearly 1,900 miles away from the closest current Big East member - Louisville - would prefer the Big East bulk up its new western division.

[Just the facts]

The problem is there are simply not enough good football schools (and by good I don't necessarilly mean win-loss record) and 4 conferences are hoarding most of the good ones.

[dcsooner]

The new Big 12 is a crappy conference. All of the prestige schools are in the BIG 10 or PAC 12. NE and CO made the best decision of all the moves because they get both high caliber educational institutions with quality football. MO and TX AM moved to a football conference but not so much academic institutions. The new big 12 is really short on both accounts outside of Texas.

[venture]

Big 12 is still #2 overall in football, so can't be all that bad.

[venture]

http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/33518727

With BYU officially out of the picture for the Big East, the league has begun negotiations with San Diego State about the Aztecs joining the league as a football-only member, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com Saturday night.

Umm WTF? At this point it would almost be better for the Big East to start poaching the MAC or Sun Belt. There is no reason for a conference to have schools on both coasts.