Cannabis

[Quicker]

There needs to be a better way of testing to determine if somebody is actually high on the job. It's absolutely absurd that a person can be fired or be denied employment for using a legal substance weeks or even months before, all because so many can't move past the hippie-era stigma associated with cannabis. If you're in Nevada, weed is as legal as alcohol.

As soon as Trump is gone, it will be legalized federally so that argument will be out the window.

Trumps not the problem but don’t let that stand in the way blaming him anyway...

‘’Barr’s early support for the legislation, which was introduced last week, marks a departure from the strict anti-marijuana stance of his predecessor, Jeff Sessions. Gardner, a Yuma Republican, has said President Donald Trump is willing to sign the bill if it reaches his desk. The senator said Wednesday that he spoke to Barr about the STATES Act before Barr took office earlier this year.

“I’m glad Attorney General Barr today reiterated his belief that the current situation is untenable and that the STATES Act is an approach he would be interested in pursuing, and I hope my colleagues will hear his loud and clear call for Congress to act,” Gardner said‘’

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/1...-legalization/

‘’A bipartisan group in Congress, including Colorado’s two senators, re-introduced legislation Thursday to prevent federal authorities from enforcing prohibitions on marijuana in states like Colorado where it has been legalized.

Sen. Cory Gardner, a Yuma Republican, joined with Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., in announcing re-introduction of the bill, known as the STATES Act. Companion legislation in the House is being co-sponsored by Rep. Joe Neguse, a Lafayette Democrat, among others.‘’

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/04/0...l-enforcement/

[bchris02]

Speaking of recreational marijuana, imagine all of the money the state will make in a few years if OK goes rec and TX doesn't even have medical?

I used to always think Okies would be driving to Gainesville for legal weed. Now its looking a lot more likely that Texans will be driving to Thackerville.

[Plutonic Panda]

Now it’s time for Oklahoma to decriminalize mushrooms.

[Soonerman]

Speaking of recreational marijuana, imagine all of the money the state will make in a few years if OK goes rec and TX doesn't even have medical?

I used to always think Okies would be driving to Gainesville for legal weed. Now its looking a lot more likely that Texans will be driving to Thackerville.

Texas State Troopers will be setting up shop at each crossing of the Red River when this happens.

[jedicurt]

Texas State Troopers will be setting up shop at each crossing of the Red River when this happens.

you are right, they will... when they have much bigger problems facing them... much like Oklahoma did when we set up state troopers along the Colorado boarder while still being one of the largest meth producing states... lol...

[bchris02]

Texas State Troopers will be setting up shop at each crossing of the Red River when this happens.

It's already really bad in that area.

[OKC Guy]

Speaking of recreational marijuana, imagine all of the money the state will make in a few years if OK goes rec and TX doesn't even have medical?

I used to always think Okies would be driving to Gainesville for legal weed. Now its looking a lot more likely that Texans will be driving to Thackerville.

Build some pot hotels and Taco Bells with delivery so they can come up and stay on weekends. Pot industry subsidizes the hotels. That way they can make it a smoking weekend and no need to take back. $$$

[bchris02]

Build some pot hotels and Taco Bells with delivery so they can come up and stay on weekends. Pot industry subsidizes the hotels. That way they can make it a smoking weekend and no need to take back. $$$

Have you ever been to Trinidad, CO?

It was kind of a rundown town when I visited back in the early 2000s but now it's actually pretty nice. A lot of money as flowed into that town from pot tourism. It's also a beautiful and very underrated part of Colorado.

[Bunty]

Speaking of recreational marijuana, imagine all of the money the state will make in a few years if OK goes rec and TX doesn't even have medical?

I used to always think Okies would be driving to Gainesville for legal weed. Now its looking a lot more likely that Texans will be driving to Thackerville.

But a poll in 2018 found only 31.7% of Oklahomans supported legalizing rec marijuana.
https://soonerpoll.com/news9-newson6...nal-marijuana/

[baralheia]

But a poll in 2018 found only 31.7% of Oklahomans supported legalizing rec marijuana.
https://soonerpoll.com/news9-newson6...nal-marijuana/

Sure, in 2018. I'm curious what the sentiment is now, now that medical is in effect and that the naysayers' predictions of doom have not come to pass.

[BoulderSooner]

Sure, in 2018. I'm curious what the sentiment is now, now that medical is in effect and that the naysayers' predictions of doom have not come to pass.

might even be lower support now with how many places have opened

[baralheia]

might even be lower support now with how many places have opened

That.... doesn't make a lot of sense, but okay.

I would really like to see polling data to confirm or disprove this, but my gut feeling - based on conversations with friends, coworkers, and acquaintances - is support for rec has increased in the months since medical was legalized. None of the doom and gloom anti-marijuana predictions have come to pass.

[bchris02]

That.... doesn't make a lot of sense, but okay.

I would really like to see polling data to confirm or disprove this, but my gut feeling - based on conversations with friends, coworkers, and acquaintances - is support for rec has increased in the months since medical was legalized. None of the doom and gloom anti-marijuana predictions have come to pass.

I agree with this.

Hardcore fundamentalist Christians are always going to be biased against it and their minds aren't changing. They are the same people who opposed liquor by the drink, legalizing tattoos and casinos, and opposed wine/strong beer in grocery stores. For everyone else, I think support has gone nowhere but up. I think OK will have rec within 5 years.

[jccouger]

That.... doesn't make a lot of sense, but okay.

I would really like to see polling data to confirm or disprove this, but my gut feeling - based on conversations with friends, coworkers, and acquaintances - is support for rec has increased in the months since medical was legalized. None of the doom and gloom anti-marijuana predictions have come to pass.

I think it makes sense.

People may have been in support, but seeing the explosion on every street corner may give a little shock to most of the conservative people who supported medical. They may have thought it would have a minor impact but seeing it on almost every turn may end up being off putting.

None of this is steeped in fact, but I could definitely see the mindset of some people being influenced in that way.

[Pete]

Oklahoma is virtually rec anyway.

The only real difference is that you have to get a patient card, which is little more than a formality and $100 + doctor's fee.

[GoGators]

There are actually people who would rather see empty store fronts than a MM shop? Literally the only thing I have noticed since this law has passed is that stores that have set empty for long periods of time now have tax generating businesses operating in them. How anyone can look at that as a bad thing honestly blows my mind.

[TheTravellers]

There are actually people who would rather see empty store fronts than a MM shop? Literally the only thing I have noticed since this law has passed is that stores that have set empty for long periods of time now have tax generating businesses operating in them. How anyone can look at that as a bad thing honestly blows my mind.

[Soonerman]

There are actually people who would rather see empty store fronts than a MM shop? Literally the only thing I have noticed since this law has passed is that stores that have set empty for long periods of time now have tax generating businesses operating in them. How anyone can look at that as a bad thing honestly blows my mind.

Right

[OkieNate]

Oklahoma is virtually rec anyway.

The only real difference is that you have to get a patient card, which is little more than a formality and $100 + doctor's fee.

This is 100% accurate.

[jccouger]

There are actually people who would rather see empty store fronts than a MM shop? Literally the only thing I have noticed since this law has passed is that stores that have set empty for long periods of time now have tax generating businesses operating in them. How anyone can look at that as a bad thing honestly blows my mind.

Are you really gonna assume 100% of the population is completely rational, while at the same time marijuana is largely still illegal? Thats a dangerous assumption.

[PurpleChicken]

So all the people who hate products of the tobacco industry and were worried about future health problems and the drag on our health facilities, thus taxing them out of business have no problem with any health repercussions from cannabis? Meanwhile, NY City limits the size of a Big Gulp due to health concerns. Seems like a double standard IMO.

[bchris02]

So all the people who hate products of the tobacco industry and were worried about future health problems and the drag on our health facilities, thus taxing them out of business have no problem with any health repercussions from cannabis? Meanwhile, NY City limits the size of a Big Gulp due to health concerns. Seems like a double standard IMO.

But they aren't locking people up and giving people felony records that last a lifetime for big gulps and they aren't for tobacco.

Why do social conservatives fear cannabis so much that they believe prohibition and criminalization is an acceptable policy?

[d-usa]

So all the people who hate products of the tobacco industry and were worried about future health problems and the drag on our health facilities, thus taxing them out of business have no problem with any health repercussions from cannabis? Meanwhile, NY City limits the size of a Big Gulp due to health concerns. Seems like a double standard IMO.

Treat it the same as tobacco, and tax both. Simple answer to a simple argument.

[jonny d]

But they aren't locking people up and giving people felony records that last a lifetime for big gulps and they aren't for tobacco.

Why do social conservatives fear cannabis so much that they believe prohibition and criminalization is an acceptable policy?

Most don't. You are taking a vocal minority and extrapolating it to the majority. If OK put recreational marijuana to a vote of the people, I believe 100% that it would pass. I wish you would quite throwing around generalities against the "Conservatives". It really weakens your arguments when you resort to ad hominem statements.

[bchris02]

Most don't. You are taking a vocal minority and extrapolating it to the majority. If OK put recreational marijuana to a vote of the people, I believe 100% that it would pass. I wish you would quite throwing around generalities against the "Conservatives". It really weakens your arguments when you resort to ad hominem statements.

I said social conservatives and I believe that is accurate.