Prostitution In OKC

[urbanity]

Vice control

OKC police hope to deter participation in the ‘world’s oldest profession.’

http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/ar...e-control.html

[MDot]

Brian Bates sighting.

[BBatesokc]

Because it doesn't happen or because confidentiality is preventing us from knowing the truth?

Because it doesn't happen. In virtually every case where transmission between a hooker and a non hooker occurred it was a result of non sexual contact - like sharing drug needles. Confidentiality doesn't hinder stats like these. I was a certified tester and counselor for years and we were required to report all kinds of states, just not identities.

[BBatesokc]

Vice control

OKC police hope to deter participation in the ‘world’s oldest profession.’

http://www.okgazette.com/oklahoma/ar...e-control.html

I think there is an echo in here.

[FRISKY]

Because it doesn't happen. In virtually every case where transmission between a hooker and a non hooker occurred it was a result of non sexual contact - like sharing drug needles. Confidentiality doesn't hinder stats like these. I was a certified tester and counselor for years and we were required to report all kinds of states, just not identities.

Are you aware of what percentage of hookers in OKC are HIV positive?

[NikkiG78]

Because it doesn't happen.

Prostitutes never infect johns with HIV......interesting. Where does this information come from?

[MDot]

Prostitutes never infect johns with HIV......interesting. Where does this information come from?

Who's John?

[NikkiG78]

Who's John?

I don't know but he's VERY lucky!!!

[BBatesokc]

Are you aware of what percentage of hookers in OKC are HIV positive?

That number doesn't exist. It would be very hard to determine as defining 'hookers' is actually more complicated than you'd think. Based on my knowledge I'd say relatively few prostitutes are infected with HIV.

[BBatesokc]

Prostitutes never infect johns with HIV......interesting. Where does this information come from?

Didn't use the word 'never,' you did. I used the term 'virtually,' which means its possible but statistically insignificant. There have been a few studies on that specific topic. You are just as capable of finding them as I am. it also follows studies that show it is significantly more difficult for a woman to pass the virus to a man via sex than it is for a man to pass it to a woman or to another man. Just as the virus is virtually never passed from a woman to another woman.

Johns are much more at risk from other diseases.

[NikkiG78]

Didn't use the word 'never,'

I stand corrected. You didn't say "never", you said.....

Because it doesn't happen.

Anyhow, I am not against you or what you do and it may not happen I just find it hard to believe.
I am on your FB and Instagram, I think you do a great job I just wish that the other people that can help crack down on the situation would step up and do their job.

[BBatesokc]

I stand corrected. You didn't say "never", you said.....
Anyhow, I am not against you or what you do and it may not happen I just find it hard to believe.
I am on your FB and Instagram, I think you do a great job I just wish that the other people that can help crack down on the situation would step up and do their job.

Thanks - but it really has nothing to do with being "for" or "against" my commercial activism. If HIV transmission from prostitute to John was really a concern, then I'd be using that fact to my advantage. But, the studies simply don't support that conclusion. For the same reason I do not rely heavily (or even hardly at all) on scare tactics often used by other anti-prostitution activists in touting unrealistic forced or child trafficking numbers within the USA.

I assume virtually any scenario on any topic has probably happened at least once, somewhere in the world. But if it occurs so infrequently that it is statistically insignificant, I pretty much take it as "not happening." Otherwise, people tend to cling to "so, it could happen!"

Sure, there is no reason why a hooker could not transmit HIV to a John, just like a non-hooker could. But the numbers simply do not support that it occurs any more frequently than in the 'normal' sexually active population.

Take the interview with Yvonne for example. She admits to being HIV positive and sleeping with hundreds, if not thousands of men. I know at one time she averaged 8-20 dates per day 5-7 days a week. There are easily a dozen girls in her exact same situation working the streets in and around OKC. In a month those women, combined, sleep with a couple thousand men. However, there is no outbreak of HIV infection in our city or any other city from men who frequent prostitutes.

I do however believe they contribute to other STD infections and outbreaks - some of which are incurable and even fatal.

[Roadhawg]

Not that I know but don't most prostitute make their John wear a condom?

[BBatesokc]

Not that I know but don't most prostitute make their John wear a condom?

Escorts - yes. Street, many do, but often the John will insist that they don't (which I find really odd).

[BDK]

Not that I know but don't most prostitute make their John wear a condom?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

[NikkiG78]

If HIV transmission from prostitute to John was really a concern, then I'd be using that fact to my advantage.

I do however believe they contribute to other STD infections and outbreaks - some of which are incurable and even fatal.

Are other STD infections a concern of yours?

[NikkiG78]

Do you remember that pic that you posted of that lady with all of the paramedics around her? She was on the ground and her body was in a weird position. Did you ever find out if she was alive or what happened?

[BBatesokc]

Are other STD infections a concern of yours?

I'm not overly concerned. But it is the reason I often contact the John's wife - and most likely the reason I've never had a wife express that they wished I had not contacted them.

But, STD infection is a huge issue in the sexually active population in general.

[BBatesokc]

Do you remember that pic that you posted of that lady with all of the paramedics around her? She was on the ground and her body was in a weird position. Did you ever find out if she was alive or what happened?

She was a discarded hooker, but I don't know if she lived or not.

[BBatesokc]

An interview with me on KWTV9 last night at 6pm regarding child prostitution in OKC... http://www.news9.com/story/15954700/...ild-protitutes

A feature at 10pm last night on KWTV9 regarding a local woman who was sexually trafficked..... http://www.news9.com/story/15957502/...ks-her-silence

[Roadhawg]

I'm not overly concerned. But it is the reason I often contact the John's wife - and most likely the reason I've never had a wife express that they wished I had not contacted them.

But, STD infection is a huge issue in the sexually active population in general.

You contact the guy's wife if you catch him with a hooker?

[BBatesokc]

You contact the guy's wife if you catch him with a hooker?

Sometimes. Its no secret - media has been reporting on that for a long time. It used to be fairly difficult, but with the ease of running tag numbers, doing utilities searches and social media (like FaceBook), its pretty simple. I don't bother as much to contact the wife unless the John is a habitual offender. Regardless, it seems someone always recognizes the Johns I catch and then contacts the wife or other relatives/friends anyway.

[Roadhawg]

Sometimes. Its no secret - media has been reporting on that for a long time. It used to be fairly difficult, but with the ease of running tag numbers, doing utilities searches and social media (like FaceBook), its pretty simple. I don't bother as much to contact the wife unless the John is a habitual offender. Regardless, it seems someone always recognizes the Johns I catch and then contacts the wife or other relatives/friends anyway.

To me that seems to be none of your business. I can some what understand you chasing hookers around but to contact the John's wife seems way over the line. I'm surprised one of those John's hasn't come looking for you after doing that. I don't have the need to use a hooker and never have but if it was me and you contacted by other half you and I would be having some words and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like what I had to say.

[BBatesokc]

To me that seems to be none of your business. I can some what understand you chasing hookers around but to contact the John's wife seems way over the line. I'm surprised one of those John's hasn't come looking for you after doing that. I don't have the need to use a hooker and never have but if it was me and you contacted by other half you and I would be having some words and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like what I had to say.

To me - its actually none of YOUR business. The only opinions on the matter that mean anything or would influence my activities are those of the individuals directly involved. In 15 years not a single wife (Zero, Nada, None) has ever expressed that it was none of my business and that I shouldn't have contacted them. This is posted publicly, my name's on it and not a single person can ever come forward showing it to be wrong. And yes, many of the wives and even the Johns contact me after the fact. I had lunch with a busted John three weeks ago. Had lunch with another John and his wife (who works for the Sheriff's department), before that. The wives are always thankful and the men are almost always remorseful and often they claim getting outted was ultimately the best thing that has happened.

Like I said, I don't bother to contact wives that often because usually someone else see's the video or stills and contacts the wife, friends, relatives anyway.

I get these vague and direct treats all the time from 3rd parties. Luckily it seems all the real 'tough guys' are too busy on the internet and apparently are not out in the real world where I am. As for what you've got to say, I've heard it before and really couldn't care less. I've caught people of all types, sizes and mentalities. A few were even armed when I caught them. I don't really give it much thought. If someone would really be upset and have "words you wouldn't like" then I suggest they don't prey upon homeless drug addict hookers. Because ultimately it is my words and videos THEY will not like.

Furthermore, how anyone can watch the news reports and my own videos above and defend someone's 'right' to pick pun a street hooker is beyond me. You want to pick up an independent whore on the internet - you won't have to worry about me because I take no stance against that.

Not so much directed at Roadhawg specifically. But I get that criticism in general, overwhelmingly from 'men', and it obviously pushes a button with me. Especially after spending two weeks doing work for a child trafficking documentary that is airing on cable soon. People who pick up street hookers are complete scum and I'll put my name and face on that opinion anytime with anyone.

[Roadhawg]

It's clear we have two different opinions on the contacting the wife issue. Like I said I'm surprised one of the husbands you did that too didn't react in a way you didn't like. I wouldn't always believe all the 'tough guys' are sitting home on the internet, one may surprise you one of these days. When you continue to post what you do on a message board for all to comment on it does become others business.