Oklahoma City Thunder 2023-24 Season

[PhiAlpha]

If nothing else, Giddey needs to be put on whatever the restricted or administrative leave list is called while an investigation goes on. This is not dissimilar from what the Tampa Bay Rays are dealing with with Wander Franco.

Yep...screw waiting for more info to come out...the dude should be suspended from doing his job because of some accusations an anonymous person made in a twitter post with seemingly malicious intent.

[kukblue1]

According to Oklahoma State law, the age of consent is 16 years.

[Laramie]

According to Oklahoma State law, the age of consent is 16 years.

Correct. If this happened in Oklahoma; then there shouldn't be any problem. That's probably why you haven't heard anything from the NBA and probably won't. The NBA isn't looking to create any problems for the league.

[Dob Hooligan]

I think the NBA and their players union are very skilled at investigating matters quickly and making sound decisions that protect both the player and the league.

No-one is more acutely aware of the image of the NBA and their players.

[PoliSciGuy]

I think the NBA and their players union are very skilled at investigating matters quickly and making sound decisions that protect both the player and the league.

No-one is more acutely aware of the image of the NBA and their players.

Yeah, I have no doubt the NBA is doing a rapid response right now, especially with the Thunder playing a marquee game tomorrow vs. the Sixers. I'm sure we'll get some more information before tip-off.

[king183]

A large number of people need to learn that it’s okay to not have an instant opinion on everything the moment it enters your consciousness and that waiting for the facts to be known is actually good.

[PhiAlpha]

A large number of people need to learn that it’s okay to not have an instant opinion on everything the moment it enters your consciousness and that waiting for the facts to be known is actually good.

this

[PoliSciGuy]

Sure, no problem other than the potential of a 21 year old NBA player engaged in a sexual relationship with a 16 year old high schooler, regardless the legality of it

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Sure, no problem other than the potential of a 21 year old NBA player engaged in a sexual relationship with a 16 year old high schooler, regardless the legality of it

Oh, please. If it’s legal it’s legal. The kid turned 21 last month and the girl’s in high school. Don’t act like it’s some huge moral calamity. He’s a normal, healthy male. As much as so many want to legislate that away, it is what it is, follow the science.

[PhiAlpha]

Sure, no problem other than the potential of a 21 year old NBA player engaged in a sexual relationship with a 16 year old high schooler, regardless the legality of it

Is it a problem if a 17 year old college freshman has a sexual relationship with a 21-22 year old college junior? Because that crap happens all the time.

[floyd the barber]

Half your age plus seven.

Giddy is 21. For the sake of argument, we will round down to 10. 15 is lower than 17. It's a no go for me.

[kukblue1]

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1...864875315?s=20 NBA is looking into it

[PoliSciGuy]

Yes, how terrible that the states want to legislate away adults having sex with minors.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Yes, how terrible that the states want to legislate away adults having sex with minors.

Again. He just turned 21. I’m just trying to point out that this isn’t exactly some creep show. Of all people, I’m surprised you would be outraged about this. Just from your history here I can make a pretty good guess about your position on minors and transitioning, begging the question: are they children or not. (Sorry, maybe I’m wrong, just a guess.) Point being, this isn’t some sort of pedo thing. Of all things wrong in this world, a kid 21 with a high school girl is not exactly something to be demanding immediate action about and calling for his scalp and career.

[PoliSciGuy]

Again. He just turned 21. I’m just trying to point out that this isn’t exactly some creep show. Of all people, I’m surprised you would be outraged about this. Just from your history here I can make a pretty good guess about your position on minors and transitioning, begging the question: are they children or not. (Sorry, maybe I’m wrong, just a guess.) Point being, this isn’t some sort of pedo thing. Of all things wrong in this world, a kid 21 with a high school girl is not exactly something to be demanding immediate action about.

This is incredible pedophilia apologia

[PhiAlpha]

This is incredible pedophilia apologia

The fact that you even threw that word out there is ridiculous.

[Dob Hooligan]

Yes, how terrible that the states want to legislate away adults having sex with minors.

Let me innocently ask you to help us understand and move this forward. I am guessing from your handle you are a Political Science professional who can give us a broad perspective, rather than partisan dogma?

Looks to me that this hits every geopolitical, racial, social, economic and generational hot spot. The liberal elite who are younger than Boomers will see this as sexual abuse, pure and simple-ish. The Bomers were raised on Elvis Presley meeting Priscilla when he was 24, she was 14, what would be called grooming today, and the experiential reality of "that is how the world was then". Giddy being Australian, I would suggest we don't really know what their customs are today. I think we are also dealing in an area of sharp divides in America regarding acceptance within communities that are poor, less educated, and non-white.

Again, an innocent question...can you give us a perspective that is deeper than "I don't like sports #MeToo". I am hoping to get to a broader understanding. Not partisan sniping.

Thanks

[PoliSciGuy]

Let me innocently ask you to help us understand and move this forward. I am guessing from your handle you are a Political Science professional who can give us a broad perspective, rather than partisan dogma?

Looks to me that this hits every geopolitical, racial, social, economic and generational hot spot. The liberal elite who are younger than Boomers will see this as sexual abuse, pure and simple-ish. The Bomers were raised on Elvis Presley meeting Priscilla when he was 24, she was 14, what would be called grooming today, and the experiential reality of "that is how the world was then". Giddy being Australian, I would suggest we don't really know what their customs are today. I think we are also dealing in an area of sharp divides in America regarding acceptance within communities that are poor, less educated, and non-white.

Again, an innocent question...can you give us a perspective that is deeper than "I don't like sports #MeToo". I am hoping to get to a broader understanding. Not partisan sniping.

Thanks

Not sure how much deeper we need to go beyond “21 year olds shouldn’t be sleeping with high schoolers.” I’d wager that, if we asked people on this forum a week ago if they thought it was acceptable for adults to sleep with high schoolers, nearly 100% would say “no, what the hell is wrong with you.” However, now that impacts the Thunder, people are abandoning their principles in the name of a 6 game winning streak.

Also, I love sports. I go to a half dozen Thunder games a year and the same number of OKC Dodgers games. I’m just not willing to sacrifice my principles in the name of fandom.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

This is incredible pedophilia apologia

If you think the above is pedophilia apology, please read about pedophilia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Pedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
A father of three daughters is hardly an apologist for pedophiles, sorry.

Dob Hooligan: That’s very interesting. I had no idea there was a generational divide on this particular issue. Thanks for that!

The bottom line, for me, is that the accusations and rush to judgment with Josh Giddey is shockingly unfair. It seems almost personal with you PoliSci?

Edit: Just saw your other post. Nobody would give this a second thought unless he was a pro BB player. What part of legal don’t you understand?

[kukblue1]

So much for Love being Love. SMH Anyway can we get back to the Thunder. How concerned are we Williams is out again. It's been a week now.

[Shortsyeararound]

Well TMZ is reporting it now, so it is not just the obscure media sites any longer.

https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/24/nba-l...ip-with-minor/

[PhiAlpha]

Well TMZ is reporting it now, so it is not just the obscure media sites any longer.

https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/24/nba-l...ip-with-minor/

One more example of TMZ being a trash publication.

[Shortsyeararound]

One more example of TMZ being a trash publication.

I just said they reported it, just like ESPN and local news did after. My comment didn't have a bias on the outcome. Also TMZ does report stuff light years ahead of other outlets. One might say they are like OKCTalk in that regard, but I would question their practices of obtaining information unlike what we get from Pete.

[PhiAlpha]

I just said they reported it, just like ESPN and local news did after. My comment didn't have a bias on the outcome. Also TMZ does report stuff light years ahead of other outlets. One might say they are like OKCTalk in that regard, but I would question their practices of obtaining information unlike what we get from Pete.

Sorry that wasn’t an attack on you (though I can understand why it might seem that way). I just hate TMZ.

[mugofbeer]

Sorry that wasn’t an attack on you (though I can understand why it might seem that way). I just hate TMZ.

Nothin' wrong with TMZ! The National Enquirer has reported about space aliens for decades and was put down for it, now we have decades of Pentagon files on UFOs being released!