Walmart

[warreng88]

I also don't understand why they don't repave 104th under I44. This is ridiculously rough, washboard part of the road.

It also is low and floods very easily. I am curious if they would have to completely rebuild it to get it to drain correctly.

[SouthSide]

I heard today that a Lowes will opening by this Walmart.

[ChrisHayes]

I like that! I like Lowes but it's inconvenient to go to the Lowes up on May. It used to be that where there was a Walmart there was a Lowes.

[SoonerDave]

I heard today that a Lowes will opening by this Walmart.

It would not surprise me in the slightest. Care to relay a source?

[Zuplar]

There's a lowes on 240, Mustang, and Moore. Seems saturated to add another in that small of an area.

[SoonerDave]

There's a lowes on 240, Mustang, and Moore. Seems saturated to add another in that small of an area.

The Mustang location would be too distant to be of much consequence in that area, otherwise that saturation would surely be my instinct...but these days, who knows. Although I don't expect it to happen, given that Lowe's and WalMart share some board members (at least they did at one point) and some operating concepts, it wouldn't *surprise* me if one showed up. I don't think there is a Lowe's/HD big-box type retailer in the TriCity area, is there? That might be the only reason I could think one might pop up - grab some market from that area coming *up* I-44....purely spitballing, of course. Doubt seriously it happens.

[Goon]

I heard today that a Lowes will opening by this Walmart.

This would be awesome.

[SoonerDave]

This would be awesome.

Rumbling I heard a few months ago was that WM planned to shutter the I-240 and Santa Fe location in favor of the I-44/104th site, but some local folks begged them to keep it open, and for now, WM agreed. Let's extrapolate and speculate on that a bit - purely discussion, no indication this is happening at all - but would Lowe's plan to shutter that Santa Fe location given its proximity to the Moore site off I-35 in favor of a new location off I-44 around 104th? If WM at some point really did opt to close their location on the east side of Santa Fe, and Lowe's moved, man, that intersection would become derelict almost immediately. Yuck.

Pete, I think you need to work your sources on this and conjure up some scuttlebutt.

[Zuplar]

The Mustang location would be too distant to be of much consequence in that area, otherwise that saturation would surely be my instinct...but these days, who knows. Although I don't expect it to happen, given that Lowe's and WalMart share some board members (at least they did at one point) and some operating concepts, it wouldn't *surprise* me if one showed up. I don't think there is a Lowe's/HD big-box type retailer in the TriCity area, is there? That might be the only reason I could think one might pop up - grab some market from that area coming *up* I-44....purely spitballing, of course. Doubt seriously it happens.

I mean I disagree. I live south of the airport and do 90% of my shopping in Mustang, as do most all of my neighbors in my particular neighbor hood.

Just some actual numbers from my house:

to Mustang Lowes: 4.9 miles
to Santa Fe Lowes: 10.2 miles
to Moore Lowes: 12.5 miles

to Mustang Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Santa Fe Walmart: 10.2 miles
to SW104th Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Tri-City Walmart: 10.4 miles

And I'm someone who lives in Westmoore schools. Other people just a mile East of me drive to Moore and or Tri-City for things like Walmart, or Lowes (Moore or Santa Fe location). This has always kind of blown my mind, because all of these things can be found closer, in an area that is growing as fast as any other (Mustang). When I first moved in out here and found out a couple of my neighbors were driving that far for basics, I was like why not just go to the ones in Mustang. Every single neighbor that was driving further had no idea Mustang even had a Lowes or supercenter Walmart. I guess maybe the last time they drove there was in the mid 90's. Now granted when the stuff opens up on 104th, it's kind of a toss up, for me anyways. I can see why people East of me would choose that as it's closer.

[SoonerDave]

I mean I disagree. I live south of the airport and do 90% of my shopping in Mustang, as do most all of my neighbors in my particular neighbor hood.

Just some actual numbers from my house:

to Mustang Lowes: 4.9 miles
to Santa Fe Lowes: 10.2 miles
to Moore Lowes: 12.5 miles

to Mustang Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Santa Fe Walmart: 10.2 miles
to SW104th Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Tri-City Walmart: 10.4 miles

And I'm someone who lives in Westmoore schools. Other people just a mile East of me drive to Moore and or Tri-City for things like Walmart, or Lowes (Moore or Santa Fe location). This has always kind of blown my mind, because all of these things can be found closer, in an area that is growing as fast as any other (Mustang). When I first moved in out here and found out a couple of my neighbors were driving that far for basics, I was like why not just go to the ones in Mustang. Every single neighbor that was driving further had no idea Mustang even had a Lowes or supercenter Walmart. I guess maybe the last time they drove there was in the mid 90's. Now granted when the stuff opens up on 104th, it's kind of a toss up, for me anyways. I can see why people East of me would choose that as it's closer.

Distance isn't the only issue - time is the other. You could have something physically closer that takes longer to reach. I, for one, would never consider going to Mustang for shopping on a routine basis, and I resist going to Moore because, well, sometimes its just a pain to go all the way to I-35 and 19th to pick up a bolt at Lowe's. Heck, if there were a Lowe's at TriCity I'd go down there before I'd go to Mustang or Moore because it is such a straight shot right down I-44.

My in-laws lived in Mustang and now in Yukon and it's always a twisty, windy path to their house, and I know where the Lowe's et al are located. I'm also in the Westmoore area, but I'm guessing you and I are just in different areas. It's only sixish (estimated - maybe seven) miles to Lowe's and a fairly straight shot down 119th, 104th, or 89th to Santa Fe (depending upon my mood). And I just don't think most people factor in the growth aspect of a region as a source for where people shop - eg it's a fast-growing area, so I'll shop there? Doesn't compute for me at all, but that's just me.

[Zuplar]

Distance isn't the only issue - time is the other. You could have something physically closer that takes longer to reach. I, for one, would never consider going to Mustang for shopping on a routine basis, and I resist going to Moore because, well, sometimes its just a pain to go all the way to I-35 and 19th to pick up a bolt at Lowe's. Heck, if there were a Lowe's at TriCity I'd go down there before I'd go to Mustang or Moore because it is such a straight shot right down I-44.

My in-laws lived in Mustang and now in Yukon and it's always a twisty, windy path to their house, and I know where the Lowe's et al are located. I'm also in the Westmoore area, but I'm guessing you and I are just in different areas. It's only sixish (estimated - maybe seven) miles to Lowe's and a fairly straight shot down 119th, 104th, or 89th to Santa Fe (depending upon my mood). And I just don't think most people factor in the growth aspect of a region as a source for where people shop - eg it's a fast-growing area, so I'll shop there? Doesn't compute for me at all, but that's just me.

Oh I understand being in different areas. I used miles because it was simplest. In my case the time would give the Mustang locations a hands down win because between my place and those there are 2 stop lights. Going the other way, at the new Walmart itself is going to be somewhere between 3 and 4 lights. It's also unfortunate that one of these roads doesn't offer faster speeds with a dedicated turning lane and less lights. This is another reason I really, really hate shopping in the South OKC area. Most of the time if I do go to Moore, which I do from time to time, I end up going down to SW134th, because at least most of it is 50 MPH and there tends to be less North-South traffic so the lights stay green longer. I feel bad for the kids that have to ride the bus in my neighborhood. I think we are around 9-10 miles from the Junior and High schools with all those lights and a lot of the roads lowered to 40 MPH. I imagine with all the other pickups those routes take forever.

I've talked with Robert Romines before, who lives not far from me about his drive to work in Moore. I can only imagine that being a nightmare. I'd think that it might almost be better to get on 44 and loop up and around than try and drive through South OKC. With how much the area is growing having just one East-West road with greater access would be so helpful.

[Goon]

Just some actual numbers from my house:

to Mustang Lowes: 4.9 miles
to Santa Fe Lowes: 10.2 miles
to Moore Lowes: 12.5 miles

to Mustang Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Santa Fe Walmart: 10.2 miles
to SW104th Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Tri-City Walmart: 10.4 miles

With those numbers, you'd be crazy to go anywhere besides Mustang. As for me (and I assume SoonerDave), my house sits a more even distance from 240 and 19th, with Mustang stores being out of the way. I do almost all grocery shopping at Crest, with the occasional jaunt to the Tri City Wal Mart (240 one is not my scene). WIth the 104th one opening soon, I imagine my random WM trips will occur there.

If they were to put a Lowe's in, I would love it as much for the store itself as for the harbinger that other businesses that interest me might also pop up. I hear from friends who have developer "connections" that there is a lot of interest, but I guess the impatient side wants more to happen. And if that means we are literally being surrounded by WalMarts in the near future, I guess I'll take it.

[Goon]

Rumbling I heard a few months ago was that WM planned to shutter the I-240 and Santa Fe location in favor of the I-44/104th site, but some local folks begged them to keep it open, and for now, WM agreed. Let's extrapolate and speculate on that a bit - purely discussion, no indication this is happening at all - but would Lowe's plan to shutter that Santa Fe location given its proximity to the Moore site off I-35 in favor of a new location off I-44 around 104th? If WM at some point really did opt to close their location on the east side of Santa Fe, and Lowe's moved, man, that intersection would become derelict almost immediately. Yuck.

I recall reading your original comments on this. They need to retrofit the side road that is the old portland (east of I44) into an on/off ramp and do some additional work in the area overall if that's the plan.

[Zuplar]

With those numbers, you'd be crazy to go anywhere besides Mustang. As for me (and I assume SoonerDave), my house sits a more even distance from 240 and 19th, with Mustang stores being out of the way. I do almost all grocery shopping at Crest, with the occasional jaunt to the Tri City Wal Mart (240 one is not my scene). WIth the 104th one opening soon, I imagine my random WM trips will occur there.

If they were to put a Lowe's in, I would love it as much for the store itself as for the harbinger that other businesses that interest me might also pop up. I hear from friends who have developer "connections" that there is a lot of interest, but I guess the impatient side wants more to happen. And if that means we are literally being surrounded by WalMarts in the near future, I guess I'll take it.

Yeah we do almost all our grocery shopping at Crest. I just wish it wasn't always so darn busy.

[stick47]

Not trying to change the subject but with the Lowes talk on here I just wanted to put in a word for All Seasons Lumber on W. Hwy 152. They usually have top quality mdse at prices better than Lowes. They're my first stop anymore.

[tfvc.org]

That area around the holidays is going to be a mess. I usually go from 35 to Macarthur on 104th to go to work, when the new WM opens up I might have to do 119th to Meridian.

[kbsooner]

You must be close to me, Im at 89th and Rockwell...

I mean I disagree. I live south of the airport and do 90% of my shopping in Mustang, as do most all of my neighbors in my particular neighbor hood.

Just some actual numbers from my house:

to Mustang Lowes: 4.9 miles
to Santa Fe Lowes: 10.2 miles
to Moore Lowes: 12.5 miles

to Mustang Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Santa Fe Walmart: 10.2 miles
to SW104th Walmart: 4.8 miles
to Tri-City Walmart: 10.4 miles

And I'm someone who lives in Westmoore schools. Other people just a mile East of me drive to Moore and or Tri-City for things like Walmart, or Lowes (Moore or Santa Fe location). This has always kind of blown my mind, because all of these things can be found closer, in an area that is growing as fast as any other (Mustang). When I first moved in out here and found out a couple of my neighbors were driving that far for basics, I was like why not just go to the ones in Mustang. Every single neighbor that was driving further had no idea Mustang even had a Lowes or supercenter Walmart. I guess maybe the last time they drove there was in the mid 90's. Now granted when the stuff opens up on 104th, it's kind of a toss up, for me anyways. I can see why people East of me would choose that as it's closer.

[Jeepnokc]

You must be close to me, Im at 89th and Rockwell...

We are almost neighbors. I'm at 104th and Regina in Olde Tuscany

[Zuplar]

Yep right down the road. 104 and council.

[crimsoncrazy]

Yep right down the road. 104 and council.

The land was sold on the northwest corner of 104th and rockwell. New housing addition going in.

[Zuplar]

The land was sold on the northwest corner of 104th and rockwell. New housing addition going in.

Not surprised. I know there is a new one going in at 119th and Rockwell. I wish the city would redo Sw104th. Road is in pretty rough conditions in several locations.

[tfvc.org]

Not surprised. I know there is a new one going in at 119th and Rockwell. I wish the city would redo Sw104th. Road is in pretty rough conditions in several locations.

I noticed the other night tha104th under the bridge has some high spots that were scraped, so they might at least resurface that intersection next week.

[Zuplar]

I noticed the other night tha104th under the bridge has some high spots that were scraped, so they might at least resurface that intersection next week.

Ironically I complained to the city about that because it was terribly washboard. I got a detailed report from the inspector about how they weren't doing anything because they have no funding. So who knows.

104th west of Regina is terrible and needs all the way to Morgan replaced.

[Pete]

Anyone know when this location will open?

[SoonerDave]

Anyone know when this location will open?

Pete, managers of the WM at TriCity have been telling customers that 104th won't open until October. I am guessing they are waiting for the service road linking 89th to 104th to be completed.