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    4 dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tundra View Post
    4 dead
    Hopefully the suspect/s will be soon dead instead of captured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilleslastand View Post
    Hopefully the suspect/s will be soon dead instead of captured.
    I would hope that as a civilized nation with a constitution the presumes innocence for all her citizens until proven guilty, even the lowest scum of the nation, that we would still give them the same rights to due process that all of us aare guaranteed. This includes accused rapists, child molesters and cop killers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnokc View Post
    I would hope that as a civilized nation with a constitution the presumes innocence for all her citizens until proven guilty, even the lowest scum of the nation, that we would still give them the same rights to due process that all of us aare guaranteed. This includes accused rapists, child molesters and cop killers.
    I totally agree. Any reasonable person would never hope for a suspect to be dead soon. I've already been seeing reports of a person who was seen to be open carrying on the Dallas streets being reported as a suspect and that has been debunked. You just can't just go around killing people who are suspects.

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    Looks like this was a coordinated attack that used the peaceful protest to triangulate fire on the officers, and you both are right as long as Texas has the right perp/s in custody Huntsville will take care of the rest{eventually}.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnokc View Post
    I would hope that as a civilized nation with a constitution the presumes innocence for all her citizens until proven guilty, even the lowest scum of the nation, that we would still give them the same rights to due process that all of us aare guaranteed. This includes accused rapists, child molesters and cop killers.
    Child molesters though? What if it was your kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Child molesters though? What if it was your kid?
    The author clearly said 'suspect,' not 'shooter.'

    Plenty of kids have made false accusations or indicated the wrong perpetrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnokc View Post
    I would hope that as a civilized nation with a constitution the presumes innocence for all her citizens until proven guilty, even the lowest scum of the nation, that we would still give them the same rights to due process that all of us aare guaranteed. This includes accused rapists, child molesters and cop killers.
    The legal system has to presume innocence, I don't.

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    The last thing we need are vigilantes running around trying to serve justice. I'd be scared for my life if I was the guy whose picture was flashed around all the news sites.

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    Probably would be better if the suspect wasn't killed so the PD could gather more information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    Child molesters though? What if it was your kid?
    What if it was your child that was accused of being the molester? Yes, if it was my child that was molested, I would want the offender punished but I would also want to be sure that the right person was punished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner88 View Post
    The last thing we need are vigilantes running around trying to serve justice. I'd be scared for my life if I was the guy whose picture was flashed around all the news sites.
    Especially since it's come out he had nothing to do with it. What if he had been killed like some people here were hoping for?

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    Has anyone heard of a police force using a remote controlled robot with a bomb on it to take out a suspect before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    Has anyone heard of a police force using a remote controlled robot with a bomb on it to take out a suspect before?
    Not specifically that, but Christopher Dorner comes to mind - where police set fire to the place he was hiding.

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    They keep saying "shooters" and "suspects" but now it may turn out there was only one shooter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    Has anyone heard of a police force using a remote controlled robot with a bomb on it to take out a suspect before?
    I think it makes sense though, when you've got someone claiming to have explosives/IEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    Has anyone heard of a police force using a remote controlled robot with a bomb on it to take out a suspect before?
    It was my understanding that the robot detonated an explosive that the suspect had/brought/wore. I may be mistaken.

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    Police killed the suspect with an explosive device after a standoff that lasted for hours, Chief David Brown said.
    "We saw no other option but to use our bomb robot and place a device on its extension for it to detonate where the suspect was," Brown said. "Other options would have exposed our officers to grave danger. The suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb."

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/phi...sts/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadanth View Post
    It was my understanding that the robot detonated an explosive that the suspect had/brought/wore. I may be mistaken.
    No. It was a police bomb the robot carried to take out the guy before he did any more harm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    No. It was a police bomb the robot carried to take out the guy before he did any more harm.
    Just seeing that clarification on the news too. Thanks.

    I'm not sure how I feel about police using explosives on a suspect, fwiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chadanth View Post
    Just seeing that clarification on the news too. Thanks.

    I'm not sure how I feel about police using explosives on a suspect, fwiw.
    Why are you troubled? Because he may be "more dead" with an explosive than by gunshot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Why are you troubled? Because he may be "more dead" with an explosive than by gunshot?
    Nah, just that once you start using high explosives in a law enforcement capacity, where does it end? In this specific case, that was probably the best means to ensure officer safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBatesokc View Post
    The author clearly said 'suspect,' not 'shooter.'

    Plenty of kids have made false accusations or indicated the wrong perpetrator.
    I'm saying if you saw it happening. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnokc View Post
    What if it was your child that was accused of being the molester?
    That's a good point.

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