In-n-Out Burger

[Motley]

If you look at the overall package, In-n-Out is hard to beat. However, I'm a mustard on burger type with a side of o rings, so the Thousand Island style sauce at In-N-Out doesn't hold an attraction to me, and they don't have rings. Still for the price and the fact it is a drive-through, it's a good burger.

If in So. Cal, try The Habit. It is a darn good burger, and they have chicken or tri-tip sandwiches, salads and rings. Not a drive-through but is fast and casual.

[josh]

I heard a rumor that Hal Smith bought the franchise rights to In-N-Out Burger in Oklahoma about ten years ago so he is the only one who could open one up. He then proceeded to open The Garage in OKC several years ago, which has been absolutely killing it, leading me to believe he will not be opening up an INO anytime soon. Not sure if it is true or not, but that is what a message board is for

This can not be true as In and Out does not franchise and is agilely family owned.

[Jersey Boss]

He then proceeded to open The Garage in OKC several years ago

In the interest of historical accuracy, The GARAGE launched in Norman, not OKC.

[Uptowner]

3x3 mustard fried, medium rare with grilled onions, hold the salad. Animal fries...and if I've sufficiently starved myself long enough before entering, a Neapolitan shake.

Those arguing the holy righteousness of the in-n-out are either haters or un-initiated. It's easy to say "whataburger is better" when you have a dozen in your town and live 200 miles from the nearest INO. As far as garage S&B is concerned. meh. Tucker's got 2,000% better when they switched buns (which I'm 90% sure are the brioche from Ben E Keith) stopped using grass fed gristle meat, and started to fry the burger atop the onions rather than on the side. Tucker's is my go-to for the moment.

But the fact you can do in-n-out drive through rockets them to the front.

[Pete]

Tucker's has become my favorite burger in OKC.

Consistently great.

[Ginkasa]

3x3 mustard fried, medium rare with grilled onions, hold the salad. Animal fries...and if I've sufficiently starved myself long enough before entering, a Neapolitan shake.

Those arguing the holy righteousness of the in-n-out are either haters or un-initiated. It's easy to say "whataburger is better" when you have a dozen in your town and live 200 miles from the nearest INO. As far as garage S&B is concerned. meh. Tucker's got 2,000% better when they switched buns (which I'm 90% sure are the brioche from Ben E Keith) stopped using grass fed gristle meat, and started to fry the burger atop the onions rather than on the side. Tucker's is my go-to for the moment.

But the fact you can do in-n-out drive through rockets them to the front.

On the rare occasion I get to enjoy In-N-Out, the drive thru is crazy backed up. They clearly have a good system to handle it, but I always prefer to step inside and order at the counter.

[Uptowner]

The drive through often has a couple kids taking orders and swiping cards on a mobile device. They even bring the trays out if your order is up before you reach the window. I've not seen this practice at any of the Texan locations though.

[traxx]

And the fact they serve shakes is a real plus.... The one beef I have with most the burger places around here, is they don't serve shakes, with exceptions of Tuckers or fast food places....

Whaaaaa?!

Braum's. Sonic has a whole ad campaign based around their shakes. Johnnie's, Steak 'n Shake, Red Robin...and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

[Bullbear]

Whaaaaa?!

Braum's. Sonic has a whole ad campaign based around their shakes. Johnnie's, Steak 'n Shake, Red Robin...and those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Hell at S&B you can get a BOOZY shake with your burger.. WIN!

[traxx]

$8 an hour obviously isn't a living wage.

And therein lies the problem.

It used to be that fast food jobs and other similar jobs were done by teenagers so they could have money to go on dates and go to the mall. Somewhere along the way, people got it in their head that punching up a burger and coke on a register and asking if you wanted fries with that should demand a living wage. Not every job can be a living wage. And there's a lot of jobs out there that were never meant to be living wage jobs. Gathering up the shopping carts at Walmart was never meant to support a family of four.

[AP]

Yep, all the teenagers had those jobs and that's why all the fast food restaurants were closed until 4pm every evening waiting for those kids to get out of school.

[jerrywall]

And therein lies the problem.

It used to be that fast food jobs and other similar jobs were done by teenagers so they could have money to go on dates and go to the mall. Somewhere along the way, people got it in their head that punching up a burger and coke on a register and asking if you wanted fries with that should demand a living wage. Not every job can be a living wage. And there's a lot of jobs out there that were never meant to be living wage jobs. Gathering up the shopping carts at Walmart was never meant to support a family of four.

Honestly, that $8 is probably part time starting pay. For example, McDonald's locally start at $9.25 and up for full time positions. Not saying that's great wage, but it's higher.

[jerrywall]

Yep, all the teenagers had those jobs and that's why all the fast food restaurants were closed until 4pm every evening waiting for those kids to get out of school.

As mentioned in my previous post, the full time daytime workers at fast food tend to be paid higher than the starting part time evening and weekend wage. Even going back to the early 90's, I knew folks making 10+ an hour on opening shifts at McDonald's.

[AP]

The fact of the matter is ~10% of the working population makes under $10 an hour, and they are not all teenagers.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/23/news...-less-an-hour/

[Tundra]

I start people out at $13 per hour and can't get anyone to apply, or if they do they don't have a drivers license....it's pathetic people just don't want to work

[AP]

Just because I'm interested, what year did you start working and what did you make?

[soonermike81]

Just because I'm interested, what year did you start working and what did you make?

Is this a question for the whole forum? If so, I didn't have my first paying job till college. Grew up working for various family businesses; no pay except room and board and I got my brother's car handed down to me. But in college, I got a Summer internship after my sophomore year that paid $13/hour and got a company car as well. Pretty sweet deal for my first paying job

[FighttheGoodFight]

Started work at a ice cream join for $5 bucks an hour at 16. Saved up enough to buy my first car which was a 1998 ford explorer sport. Dang car lasted me until I was 23 with only new tires and oil changes. Sometimes I miss that old car.

Edit: Mid 2000s

[Pete]

At age 15, I worked summers as a maintenance man at a hotel near I-40 & Meridian.

I still have a pay stub: $2.25 / hour. But that was in 1976, and would equate to $9.50 now.

Paid for my first car -- a 1970 Mustang -- before I even turned 16.


I had a bunch of odd jobs before this, including throwing papers for the Oklahoman & Times, which I soon realized was a complete exploitation of kids with no other job options. Threw both the morning and evening papers in bitter cold and scorching heat; getting up at 5AM every day before school And I think I made about $80 a month, which equated to well less than $1 / hour.

[jerrywall]

My first paying job was selling newspapers for the Edmond Sun, then eventually as a paperboy. Taught me tons about owning/running my own business, because it was structured that way. We "purchased" the papers on credit, delivered them, then collected subscription fees and paid for the papers monthly, keeping any profit and tips. If you were stupid and blew the money you collected before paying for the papers, they'd not let you get more papers until you were current. At the age of 13/14 this was a real education. I did this until I was 16, then started working at McDonald's in 1991, for $4.25 an hour (on Broadway in Edmond, when it was still there at 8th street.) Bought my first car cash as well, a couple of months after turning 16. By the time I was 18 I was making $9 an hour, and by the time I was 21 I was working at Taco Mayo as a manager, and purchased my first house in Edmond. Of course, I didn't job hop, and I put in plenty of hours. Picked up side jobs in my spare time as well (landscaping, lawn mowing, etc).

[Uptowner]

1993 age 13 as an office gopher for $3/hr plus free lunches. Once of legal age - grocery sacker, pizza, burgers, braums, fry cook, and auto parts salesman all for $4.15 federal minimum.

It took me 2 years at that rate to buy my 1970 mustang. A 429 boss clone with 4 on the floor and the rev limiter removed, it only took a week before I was banned from the high school parking lot. I ended up trading down for a Honda because I had to start working at o'reilly's for discounted parts, and even then the $5 bucks/hr they paid me wasn't enough to keep the old girl running.

[rizzo]

Am the only one that thinks In n Out is slightly overrated? Im a Fatburger guy.

Oh yes. Give me Fatburger any day over in/out.

[stick47]

About 1961 or 62 at Sonic. I was the kitchen flunky and made 50 cents an hour.
I like Freddys Steakburger restauants. Have yet to see one where there weren't twice the number of workers in there than needed. I don't know what the pay is but kudos to Freddy for employing tons of school kids.

[ctchandler]

I'm an old guy, so for a lot of you, this will be hard to relate to. I delivered papers for the Oklahoma Journal and I don't remember the pay, then, I sold donuts to pay for my Boy Scout Jamboree (1957) trip. The first job I remember the pay for was as a sack boy at Humpty Dumpty's for fifty cents an hour. I was promoted to the produce department and got a ten cent raise. Then I went on the harvest and made really good money. I worked for a privately owned Phillip's 66 station for $25 a week. Finally, I worked for the board of education maintenance for $1.25. Joined the U. S. Navy at $78 per month. As an IT professional, I made close to $100,000 when I retired 12 years ago.
C. T.

[ljbab728]

My first paying work was for my father at our family farm making $.25 an hour for many different things. My first "non family" full time job was for a bank in the early 70's making $400.00 per month.