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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    These are some pretty wild and borderline slanderous accusations to be making, so I hope you have some solid info that backs it up.
    100% agree. Judge Miller is a damn good judge. The Sheriff and Court Clerk are just doing their jobs. It's a shame that someone in the Rayo OKC organization has fed the El Reno Tribune, borchard and who knows who else with bad info.

    Remember the original ERT article said "Canadian county Judge Gary Miller issued an injunction Friday evening banning the sale of alcohol at tonight's Rayo OKC season-opening game. Brad Lund, Rayo OKC managing partner, said the ban was sought by the Canadian County Sheriff's office. Lund said the Rayo organization plans to fight the injunction."

    Then the follow-up ERT article corrected that to say that there was no injunction after all but rather a state law that was being enforced: "Sheriff Randall Edwards said state law prohibits the sale of beer on high school properties and that was all that was needed to stop Rayo OKC from selling it at Yukon's Miller Stadium. Edwards said he “my undersheriff and my civil deputy” met with District Judge Gary Miller Friday afternoon for about “two to three hours” in the judge's chambers, but that Miller never issued an injunction preventing the sale of beer at the professional soccer game."

    So no injunction exists, no ban was sought, no complaint filed. Just a state law being enforced.

    And now, we're supposed to believe that because the judge didn't pick up the phone when Rayo called over the weekend or answer his door when someone had the nerve to actually go to his house that he's part of some conspiracy against Rayo along with the Sheriff and Court Clerk? What an entitled and paranoid attitude.

    The folks running the Rayo show apparently didn't learn from the last time they got sideways with local government. They angered enough people at OKC City Hall during their run with the CHL Blazers that when they came back to ask for $$$ and permission to run a Grand Prix in OKC, it got shot down in flames. In case you forgot, Grand Prix racing proposal rejected in 6-2 council vote | News OK and Two Weeks Over - Grand Prix Done? | News OK are instructive, especially the part where it says "From what I’m hearing from City Hall, this deal is dead, especially in light of perceived insults by the Grand Prix promoters of the city council."

    So back then we had people who didn't get their way in OKC and tossed some napalm around, damaging whatever relationship they had with City Hall. Fast forward to now, we have some of the same people who aren't getting their way in Yukon/Canadian County and they're now once again tossing napalm around willy nilly. Judge, Sheriff and Court Clerk are conspiring against them. Deliberately done last minute so as to sabotage Rayo. They're being paid/supported by big names, can't tell you who, but the insinuation is that they're somehow related to the Energy. And we've given all the dirt to the Trib who is going to publish a scathing exposé any day now.

    Rayo OKC has no one else to blame for this beer fiasco but themselves. This issue should have been vetted weeks, if not months, before the season began. And they should have been working closely to establish a strong relationship with the Yukon Police Department (let's not forget that the YPD Chief agreed with the Sheriff that beer sales at Miller Stadium would violate state law) and the County to make sure all the i's were dotted and t's crossed.

    It's not too late for Rayo to make amends. Instead of being arrogant and petulant, some adult in that organization should admit they screwed up and then work with the Judge, Sheriff, Court Clerk, Police Chief and whoever else to find out what it will take to make beer sales happen. The quicker this mess is behind Rayo, the stronger their future in Canadian County and metro OKC will be in my opinion.

    But that's not their M.O. They want things done their way on their time. So be it. It's their business, run it the way you think it should be run. Maybe it'll work out, maybe not. However, if the one-sided flow of innuendo and rumors of corruption and conspiracy continues via whispers inside Miller Stadium or here on OKCTalk, my guess is Rayo will have a short lifespan in Yukon.

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    I'll admit that I should have included "sheriff and judge are right" as one of the scenarios. I disagree with the ruling, so I didn't even think of including it.

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    I spoke with the team AND the guy whose company will be running the beer sales. Both say it will be a non-issue as of the next home game. All licenses and certificates have been obtained (as they were originally). So even if it WAS under-handed, it had no effect. I'm just glad to about that.

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    Attendance figures for:

    Rayo OKC - Miller Stadium (6,500) Yukon
    1st. 6,416
    2nd. 5,861 (Cumulative: 12,267)
    Average - 6,134

    OKC Energy FC - Taft Stadium (7,500) Oklahoma City
    1st. 5,646
    2nd. 6,455 (Cumulative: 12,101)
    Average - 6,051

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    Two teams, playing at the same time, drawing over 12,000 between the two. Who says OKC can't support two teams (or a MLS franchise)?

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    Looks like The Oklahoman has an update to the story, but only for paid subscribers.

    Gotta love that business model...

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    Looks like The Oklahoman has an update to the story, but only for paid subscribers.

    Gotta love that business model...
    I read it in the paper this morning and it didn't say a whole lot. It sounded like the El Reno Tribune had a lot of mis-information it what the DOK is saying is correct. I don't trust either of them.

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    That was one of the more.....interesting.....editorials that I have read.

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    The City of Yukon may not be able to make payroll at month's end. It would be to Yukon's advantage to capture all the revenue it can.

    Yukon city manager concerned about making payroll toward end of month | Oklahoma City - OKC - KOCO.com

    Two home games have produced no revenue from potential beer sales. The Sheriff's department doesn't need to make this an issue; there department could be the next affected by these cuts.

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    Woah, wait a minute. How can the Energy sell beer at their home matches? You see, Taft Stadium is owned by Oklahoma City Public Schools and Taft Middle School is on the same property as Taft Stadium. If what the Canadian County Sheriff and District Judge are saying is true, then the Energy FC and Oklahoma County officials are in violation of state law.
    That's my point, as well. If it IS, in fact, a STATE law, then it would be illegal in Oklahoma County, as well.

    Edwards even went as far to say, “What are we going to allow next? The selling of drugs, prostitution and gambling?”
    Come on Sheriff Edwards, let’s get real. Comparing selling drugs, prostitution and gambling to having a beer at a professional sporting event is about as asinine as it gets.
    I agree wholeheartedly. And as far as gambling, there is an Oklahoma Lottery kiosk at home games. OH NO! THERE's GAMBLING HAPPENING!?!?
    This could lead to dancing....

    http://www.elrenotribune.com/news/ar...e8bcd0285.html
    In his protest, Edwards said he has received concerns from Yukon residents and school faculty, including teachers, coaches, principals and support staff on the matter.
    “This facility was not built and/or paid for to be leased out to any professional sports organization(s), nor was it ever discussed, nor was it ever the intention of the citizens of Yukon to contract the facility out to a professional sports organization,” the sheriff’s protest states.
    IMHO, this isnt about beer being sold. He's now "protesting" that the school shouldnt be the home of a professional sports team?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by borchard View Post
    IMHO, this isnt about beer being sold. He's now "protesting" that the school shouldnt be the home of a professional sports team?!?
    This is getting weirder...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    The City of Yukon may not be able to make payroll at month's end. It would be to Yukon's advantage to capture all the revenue it can.
    Beer sales don't go to the city coffers though do they? It's allocated to the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    Beer sales don't go to the city coffers though do they? It's allocated to the school.
    I'm like you, just really not sure because at one time all beer & alcohol sales were controlled by the state--probably went into the state coffers.

    Do recall the generic Retail Liquor signs that use to be posted at all liquor store establishments back in the 70s & 80s..

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    Well...In an effort to help the Canadian County Sheriff with his crusade against beer sales on school property, I noticed that El Reno Burger Fest's Beer Garden is right in front of the El Reno Public School Administration Building!?!
    He can't allow that, can he? I mean...It would seem hypocritical to allow that, but not allow it at Rayo game.
    I guess he will need to ask Bob Funk what HE thinks about it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by borchard View Post
    Well...In an effort to help the Canadian County Sheriff with his crusade against beer sales on school property, I noticed that El Reno Burger Fest's Beer Garden is right in front of the El Reno Public School Administration Building!?!
    He can't allow that, can he? I mean...It would seem hypocritical to allow that, but not allow it at Rayo game.
    I guess he will need to ask Bob Funk what HE thinks about it first.

    https://elrenoburgerday.wordpress.co...tage-schedule/
    If you are going to continue with your claim that officials are in Bob Funk's pocket, it probably wouldn't hurt to produce some evidence to that effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    If you are going to continue with your claim that officials are in Bob Funk's pocket, it probably wouldn't hurt to produce some evidence to that effect.
    At this point, it's crossing the line into actionable libel. A my bad later won't absolve one of culpability.

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    What makes the implication that the Energy or Funk's is behind this even more absurd? On the chance the judge backs the Sheriff, Energys beer is next.

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    They'll probably get this cleared by the next game Rayo home game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    They'll probably get this cleared by the next game Rayo home game.
    Yeah, the hearing is the 20th, so I think it'll be short and simple. if the objection isn't dropped before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d-usa View Post
    If you are going to continue with your claim that officials are in Bob Funk's pocket, it probably wouldn't hurt to produce some evidence to that effect.
    And what if/when someone DOES produce some kind of evidence that this was something more than just a coincidence (I'm not claiming it is! Oh God! Don't draw up those C &D papers yet!)
    I guess what I'm asking is, what EXACTLY would it take for you to believe it?

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    An old idiom “be careful what you wish for...”

    Now Oklahoma City area has two professional soccer teams; let's just savor the moment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    What makes the implication that the Energy or Funk's is behind this even more absurd? On the chance the judge backs the Sheriff, Energys beer is next.
    Look...there is no evidence yet that this is being orchestrated by someone behind the scenes. But it IS an opinion that is shared by more than just me.
    And the ABSURD thing, for me, is when people make comments like, "Why would they do something like this just for beer and a 3rd division soccer team...?"
    You DO realize that there is ALOT more at stake than just 3rd division soccer and beer, right?
    I personally don't believe a word that comes out of Bob Funk Jr's mouth. BUT...if you DO believe what he says then they are trying to angle for MLS.
    That is a $100,000,000 investment to START
    Then probably at least that much to build a stadium.
    Then running the team, marketing, sponsorship money, TV rights, etc...
    What, if anything is standing in their way? (Except; money, MLS itself, ANY other, bigger city that wants into MLS) Another soccer team in the same area that has the potential to draw away support for YOUR team, ran by a couple of guys that really don't like you because of past experience with you.
    So, if you actually DO believe a single word that comes out of his gob, then there is a HUGE sum of money that is at stake right now.
    Now, if you look at ANYTHING I've said in this post, I'm not ACCUSING anyone of anything. I am just pointing out inconvenient facts

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    I think if we got an mls team they would merge the two teams and call it EnergyRayo. That would be the best pitch to the MLS

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