David Boren and the B12

[jerrywall]

If OU were to leave I don't see why OSU being in a different conference is such a big deal. The important part is that they play each other. Colorado - C-State, Iowa - I-State and I'm sure others play annually. Why couldn't OU - OSU?

OU may not want to. At the minimum, it could shift the game in the season (which may not be a bad thing). How common is a non conference late season game? I've always enjoyed the spoiler element of Bedlam.

[BoulderSooner]

If osu athletics is so profitable why don't the donate the tax payer money to the school for education and not for sports? The 6.5 million of tax payers money could go a long way in education

osu AD is in the red and gets money from the school ..... OU donates money to the school general fund and doesn't get and money .... little brother indeed

[Just the facts]

If OU joined the SEC we would adopt the SEC schedule model. If we played Texas and/or OSU it would be the first game of the season. The SEC plays the non-conference cupcakes at the end of the season so they can get healthy for bowl season and to eliminate late season losses. The SEC also only plays 8 conference games, thus ensuring one less loss for every team.

[Bill Robertson]

OU may not want to. At the minimum, it could shift the game in the season (which may not be a bad thing). How common is a non conference late season game? I've always enjoyed the spoiler element of Bedlam.

I have no problem with OSU being the first game. If that's what it would take for OU to be in a conference that will be viable or even exist in ten years I would suspect that OU would be fine with it also.

[OKCretro]

OU may not want to. At the minimum, it could shift the game in the season (which may not be a bad thing). How common is a non conference late season game? I've always enjoyed the spoiler element of Bedlam.

How many times has OSU actually been a spoiler ? Like 3?
I love it when osu fans say "anything can happen in bedlam".... Well that's true but more than what 95% of the time it's a win for OU?

[jerrywall]

How many times has OSU actually been a spoiler ? Like 3?
I love it when osu fans say "anything can happen in bedlam".... Well that's true but more than what 95% of the time it's a win for OU?

Blah blah blah. We know your opinion. You'll never miss a chance to talk down OSU. We get it. I happen to be a fan of both teams, and ain't obsessed with trashing "little brother". I could care less how often either team has been the spoiler for the other. The chance of it is fun. I've also enjoyed the times that the bedlam game is a factor in the big 12 championship.

[jerrywall]

I have no problem with OSU being the first game. If that's what it would take for OU to be in a conference that will be viable or even exist in ten years I would suspect that OU would be fine with it also.

The one nice aspect is that it would make it where a bedlam loss wouldn't necessarily derail either team. Similarly if an OU/Tx matchup was the season opener (although then it wouldn't line up with the Tx State Fair).

[ou48A]

osu AD is in the red and gets money from the school ..... OU donates money to the school general fund and doesn't get and money .... little brother indeed

^This is 100% correct…..

Over the decades OU athletics has given back to OU academics has added up to a great deal of money….and helped make OU the better university over all.

In the 1950’s (when OU was in one of sports better dynasties in a sport than matters) any athletic department surplus was turned over to OU academics….In 2016 dollars the total figure would be well north of $100 million dollars.

OU athletics has a very long history of providing money to its academics and assisting the university’s mission to the state….This doesn’t even account for several very large donations that came to OU academics because the donor was somehow energized by OU football.

By comparison osu athletics appears to take away opportunity for its university’s academics and its mission to make the state a better place to work, live and play. It’s time to divert the money to osu academics!

[AP]

^This is 100% correct…..

Over the decades OU athletics has given back to OU academics has added up to a great deal of money….and helped make OU the better university over all.

In the 1950’s (when OU was in one of sports better dynasties in a sport than matters) any athletic department surplus was turned over to OU academics….In 2016 dollars the total figure would be well north of $100 million dollars.

OU athletics has a very long history of providing money to its academics and assisting the university’s mission to the state….This doesn’t even account for several very large donations that came to OU academics because the donor was somehow energized by OU football.

By comparison osu athletics appears to take away opportunity for its university’s academics and its mission to make the state a better place to work, live and play. It’s time to divert the money to osu academics!

Please STFU. There were only 7 CFB programs that didnt receive a subsidy from the University in 14-15. If these schools didn't subsidize the program, they wouldn't have one. Is that what you want? Only 7 CFB programs in the country? We hear the same stupid **** from these OU homers all of the time.

Texas
Ohio State
LSU
Oklahoma
Penn State
Nebraska
Purdue

[hoya]

Ohio State
LSU
Oklahoma
Penn State
Nebraska
Purdue

Seven? That's some Aggie math right there.

[AP]

When I was editing, I accidentally deleted Texas.

[ou48A]

Please STFU. There were only 7 CFB programs that didnt receive a subsidy from the University in 14-15. If these schools didn't subsidize the program, they wouldn't have one. Is that what you want? Only 7 CFB programs in the country? We hear the same stupid **** from these OU homers all of the time.

Texas
Ohio State
LSU
Oklahoma
Penn State
Nebraska
Purdue

As state tax payers and with a current projected $900 million dollar state budget short fall, each OU fan has a right to say how our money is spent, even at osu.

The time for fiscal responsibility in our state is now!

There are many more universities who only took student fees…. Far fewer than on your list take state tax money.
OSU has taken both...... for many decades! …..OU doesn’t do either for its varsity athletic programs!

[AP]

College athletics finance report: Non-Power 5 schools face huge money pressure

[jerrywall]

When I was editing, I accidentally deleted Texas.

I'd support the idea of doing that on purpose...

[David]

And so I see we've reached the point where this thread has become worthless to follow.

[AP]

It would totally be worth while if the same few OU fans didn't take every chance they could to call OSU little brother, and I'm never going to just let that pass when I see it.

[David]

It would totally be worth while if the same few OU fans didn't take every chance they could to call OSU little brother, and I'm never going to just let that pass when I see it.

Oh, I wasn't referring to you.

[jerrywall]

So sort of back on topic, on the thought of conference changes... if we keep the same number of schools, and don't add back in a championship, should we look at adjusting our FB schedules similar to the SEC? Could that have been a factor in bowl performance this year?

[hoya]

When I was editing, I accidentally deleted Texas.

I don't blame you. I would delete them too.

[Buffalo Bill]

^This is 100% correct…..

Over the decades OU athletics has given back to OU academics has added up to a great deal of money….and helped make OU the better university over all

OU athletics has a very long history of providing money to its academics and assisting the university’s mission to the state….This doesn’t even account for several very large donations that came to OU academics because the donor was somehow energized by OU football.

By comparison osu athletics appears to take away opportunity for its university’s academics and its mission to make the state a better place to work, live and play. It’s time to divert the money to osu academics!

I'm surprised then that with all this money pouring in from athletics that their academic programs aren't appreciably better.

[traxx]

Here's some realignment talk from a couple of Michigan guys who supposedly have inside knowledge. But take that with a grain of salt. We know what happened with the guys from WV that had "inside knowledge."

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluevodre...5737780224?p=v

[jerrywall]

Here's some realignment talk from a couple of Michigan guys who supposedly have inside knowledge. But take that with a grain of salt. We know what happened with the guys from WV that had "inside knowledge."

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bluevodre...5737780224?p=v

If Texas and OU both went to the B10 that would be it for the Big12. A loss of one of those schools and the remainder may try to make a go of it, but both of them and I think you immediately see any school that can jump ship.

[jerrywall]

Of course.. there could be some room in the SEC for another team soon...

Should LSU Worry About Football Comments from the Louisiana Governor? | Bleacher Report

(I'm only half serious...)

[rte66man]

OU may not want to. At the minimum, it could shift the game in the season (which may not be a bad thing). How common is a non conference late season game? I've always enjoyed the spoiler element of Bedlam.

Georgia -- Georgia Tech comes immediately to mind. That is usually the last regular season game for both. Florida - Florida State is another

[ljbab728]

Oklahoma president supports Cincinnati's hopes for a Big 12 bid - SBNation.com

The Cincinnati Enquirer found that Oklahoma president David Boren emailed Cincinnati president Santa Ono with support for the Bearcats.


"You are truly an outstanding leader and knowing that you are at the helm in Cincinnati makes me even more inclined to support your cause," said Boren, a former Oklahoma governor and U.S. senator.