Daylight Savings Time in Oklahoma

[bchris02]

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB2557

It looks like Oklahoma may be doing away with Daylight Savings Time. Personally, I don't like this idea. I would support staying on daylight savings time all year, but I dislike standard time because I prefer more light in the evening. If this passes, the sun will set at 8PM in June instead of 9PM.

Thoughts?

[jerrywall]

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB2557

It looks like Oklahoma may be doing away with Daylight Savings Time. Personally, I don't like this idea. I would support staying on daylight savings time all year, but I dislike standard time because I prefer more light in the evening. If this passes, the sun will set at 8PM in June instead of 9PM.

Thoughts?

I doubt it'll pass. I'm all for ending DST if the entire country does it, but the confusion of being one of the few states that don't recognize/practice it? No thanks.

[OKCRT]

https://legiscan.com/OK/bill/HB2557

It looks like Oklahoma may be doing away with Daylight Savings Time. Personally, I don't like this idea. I would support staying on daylight savings time all year, but I dislike standard time because I prefer more light in the evening. If this passes, the sun will set at 8PM in June instead of 9PM.

Thoughts?

I hope they do away with daylight savings time altogether. It messes with my internal time clock.

[bchris02]

I doubt it'll pass. I'm all for ending DST if the entire country does it, but the confusion of being one of the few states that don't recognize/practice it? No thanks.

Yeah. I work for a company where we support customers across the country and Arizona is confusing. In winter, they are mountain time but in the summer they are pacific.

I would totally support staying on DST all year, but not standard time. We are already on DST 3/4 of the year so there would only be confusion during winter months, and there would be more light in the evening all year long.

[Bunty]

I don't see the point of it.

[rezman]

I think that when the clocks get set forward in the spring time, it should be left that way period. More daylight in the evenings summer AND winter.

[bchris02]

I don't see the point of it, unless it's to give mornings more light during the winter.

Thing is, mornings already have more light during the winter when we are on standard time. Pass this, and the sun would come up at 4AM in the summer and set at 8PM.

[shawnw]

Arizona is confusing. In winter, they are mountain time but in the summer they are pacific.

Technically they remain Mountain Standard Time year round. When everybody else springs forward, Pacific Daylight=Mountain Standard, so it SEEMS like they switch to pacific...

[Jersey Boss]

Thing is, mornings already have more light during the winter when we are on standard time. Pass this, and the sun would come up at 4AM in the summer and set at 8PM.

On the longest day of the year, June 21, the sun rises at about 6:15 and sets at 8:49.

[Jim Kyle]

I would totally support staying on DST all year, but not standard time. We are already on DST 3/4 of the year so there would only be confusion during winter months, and there would be more light in the evening all year long.

We had that situation for several years back in the late 70s or early 80s, but kids were having to walk to school several HOURS before sunrise in the winter.

The move that I prefer would be for the entire nation to go on UCT -- what used to be called GMT or in the military, Zebra time. That would move our clocks six hours toward midnight here in OKC (five hours during Daylight Time) and do away with ALL correlation between daylight and the clocks unless you live in London, UK, but think how nice it would be for New York and Los Angeles to have the same time on their clocks! We could get used to going to work at 2 p.m. and staying until 11 p.m., instead of working 9 to 5. And kids would like being able to stay up until "midnight" every day!

Makes even more sense than "daylight saving" (which is an untruthful marketing slogan no matter how one slices it).

[OkiePoke]

On the longest day of the year, June 21, the sun rises at about 6:15 and sets at 8:49.

Dawn : 5:45 (4:45 am w/o DST)
Dusk : 9:18 (8:18 pm w/o DST)

[jerrywall]

We had that situation for several years back in the late 70s or early 80s, but kids were having to walk to school several HOURS before sunrise in the winter.

The move that I prefer would be for the entire nation to go on UCT -- what used to be called GMT or in the military, Zebra time. That would move our clocks six hours toward midnight here in OKC (five hours during Daylight Time) and do away with ALL correlation between daylight and the clocks unless you live in London, UK, but think how nice it would be for New York and Los Angeles to have the same time on their clocks! We could get used to going to work at 2 p.m. and staying until 11 p.m., instead of working 9 to 5. And kids would like being able to stay up until "midnight" every day!

Makes even more sense than "daylight saving" (which is an untruthful marketing slogan no matter how one slices it).

[zookeeper]

I hope they do away with daylight savings time altogether. It messes with my internal time clock.

I'm the other way around, I wish we could stay on DST all year long. I love the extra daylight in the evenings.

[JohnH_in_OKC]

I personally think our converting to DST each year makes sense. I remember before the nation adopted daylight savings, summer mornings would start around 5 am & back then, all that was on TV were the farm reports on Channel 4 & 9. If Oklahoma were to go out of sync with our Central Daylight Time region, it would wreak havoc with our internal clocks, our TV viewing (especially most cable stations would be off time compared to our region) and we'd lose an hour of daylight each evening. Unless the whole nation wanted to abandon daylight savings time, we are much better off keeping things as they are.

[rezman]

On top of resetting the clocks twice a year, the company I work for got the bright idea to go to winter and summer hours. 6:00 -2:30 during the summer and 7:00-3:30 during the winter. We had been on 6:00 - 2:30 for almost 20 years, and I loved it. So did almost all of my coworkers.
So now it works something like this... set the clocks forward in the spring then shortly after switch work hours from 7:00-3:30 to 6:00-2:30. Then come fall, set the clocks back, then shortly afterwards
Switch back to 7:00-3:30 till next spring. ... Talk about screwing with your internal clock.

[TU 'cane]

Switching times has proven to have ill effects on peoples health and internal clocks.
Additionally, it was really only implemented as energy savings during war time.

Modern technologies, fuels, etc. have all but debunked this long held theory that we save energy.

And for every study or article someone puts forth arguing that, there will be one refuting it.

Personally, I don't see the point in switching times, it isn't natural. I'd prefer to remain on this time year round as this is normal to humans.

[stick47]

[ctchandler]

The move that I prefer would be for the entire nation to go on UCT -- what used to be called GMT or in the military, Zebra time.

Jim,
When I was in the Navy, it was called "Zulu" time. Was it really "Zebra" time?
C. T.

[Zorba]

I love Daylight Savings Time, wish we would stay on it all year. I went ahead and wrote a letter to my state rep requesting that she vote No. I really can believe that people are willing to give up ~300 days of good, because their sleep gets messed up one night.

Personally, I don't see the point in switching times, it isn't natural. I'd prefer to remain on this time year round as this is normal to humans.

Standard time is a pretty new invention as well, not like it was handed down to Moses. It isn't natural to have a work schedule mandated by a boss, either, but it is a fact of life.

[Jim Kyle]

Jim,
When I was in the Navy, it was called "Zulu" time. Was it really "Zebra" time?
C. T.

Both, depending on the year. When we used Able, Baker, Charlie, and Dog, it was Zebra. After the change to Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and Delta, it became Zulu. I was caught right in the middle of that changeover (got out in 1954) and thus learned that Zed was "Zebra." I suspect your service was a bit later, after the change, so you got the newer version.

[Jim Kyle]

Standard time is a pretty new invention as well, not like it was handed down to Moses. It isn't natural to have a work schedule mandated by a boss, either, but it is a fact of life.

Actually, Daylight Time is an older idea than Standard Time. Ben Franklin is credited with invention of daylight saving time back in the 19th century, but standard time didn't come along until the middle of the 19th century, inspired by railroads' need for standardized clocks across the nation.

[stile99]

Ben Franklin is credited with invention of daylight saving time back in the 19th century

The funny part is his essay was written VERY tongue-in-cheek. The whole point was to show how silly the concept was. It features such things as people saying the light can't shine at such an early time in the morning, and by leaving his window open, he hadn't let the light in but the dark out, and ringing church bells to wake people up at first light so they would be tired in the evening and therefore not 'waste candles'. This from the man who gave us "Early to bed and early to rise".

tl;dr: Ben Franklin was a smartass.

[gopokes88]

I would legitmately consider moving if we got rid of DST. I love the extra daylight in the summer.

[ctchandler]

Both, depending on the year. When we used Able, Baker, Charlie, and Dog, it was Zebra. After the change to Alpha, Bravo, Charlie, and Delta, it became Zulu. I was caught right in the middle of that changeover (got out in 1954) and thus learned that Zed was "Zebra." I suspect your service was a bit later, after the change, so you got the newer version.

Jim,
I enlisted in the U. S. Navy in 1960, so it had all changed (the military/government phonetic alphabet) by then. I do remember the previous version because of some old "salts" that still used it when not working in an official capacity. As for "Zed", with my friend from London, I have become used to that instead of "Z". And when I was working at Hertz, we communicated often with the folks in the UK, Australia, and Canada and they all use zed for the letter z.
C. T.

[Jim Kyle]

I knew you woulr recognize "Zed." I sorta wish it was part of our culture, too.

I never did get used to Alpha and Bravo; in the late 50s I took part in MARS, The Military Amateur Radio Service, and we had to use the new alphabet to identify ourselves and Juliet and Kilo both bothered me greatly!