Fordson Hotel (formerly 21c Museum Hotel)

[TheTravellers]

New issue of Territory magazine (#5, I think) has a good article/interview with Fred Hall on the history of the plant, owners, etc. Not online, so can't post it, but find an issue somewhere, definitely worth reading.

[Pete]

Pete,

Do you have an opening date for the hotel yet? I'm surprised by the amount of people that visit FlashBack and still don't know that a hotel is going to open there this year.

Don't think they've set a date but are aiming for spring/summer.

They have made a lot of progress... I go by there just about every night and can see inside now that lights are on.


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[bchris02]

Film Row is going to explode once the hotel and attached housing come online. I would not be surprised that if between now and 2020, Film Row sees a more dramatic transformation than any other neighborhood/corridor in OKC.

[ljbab728]

An extensive interview with video, as only Steve can do, with Steve Wilson.

http://www.oklahoman.com/article/547...o_redirect=yes

The video shows already what an amazing space this will be.

[Pete]

BTW, those glass block structures within the hotel are light wells that go from the roof then stop at the ceiling of the ground floor to throw natural light into the art galleries.

[soonerguru]

Nm

[soonerguru]

an extensive interview with video, as only steve can do, with steve wilson.

http://www.oklahoman.com/article/547...o_redirect=yes

the video shows already what an amazing space this will be.

lol

[ljbab728]

lol

Why am I not surprised at your comment? LOL

Where else are you seeing interviews with a video like this other than some random quick features on the local TV stations?

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^
Take it to the OPUBCO thread.

[Pete]

From the ADG Twitter feed; from the looks of active computers on desks, it seems they have moved in:

[5alive]

While I very happy to see this part of the building come to life, it is just a little too "unfinished" for my taste.

[Pete]

From https://twitter.com/dtOKCbuilds...

South side of the hotel being painted; it's not brick but concrete and will also be largely obstructed by the new apartments and structured parking.

[Dustin]

It was painted concrete this whole time? Definitely fooled me!

[Urbanized]

Only that one side and a portion of the west end. The rest is all brick.

[ljbab728]

I actually like that paint since they aren't going to brick it. It gives a little more interest and contrast to the building.

[Urbanized]

^^^^^
Believe it or not, bricking it would actually be frowned upon from an HP standpoint.

[Pete]

I can see this building from my apartment and it's cool to see the upper floors with the lights on.

They appear to be pretty far along with the rooms and are now concentrating on the restaurant, bar and lobby.

[sooner88]

I can see this building from my apartment and it's cool to see the upper floors with the lights on.

They appear to be pretty far along with the rooms and are now concentrating on the restaurant, bar and lobby.

Is the restaurant/bar operated by 21C or do they bring in someone outside to operate it?

[mkjeeves]

^^^^^
Believe it or not, bricking it would actually be frowned upon from an HP standpoint.

What about paint over concrete?

I didn't like it at first but It's growing on me.

[Pete]

Is the restaurant/bar operated by 21C or do they bring in someone outside to operate it?

I believe they operate the restaurant and bar themselves.

[Bullbear]

are they planning cool signage for the water tower? I love this building and looking forward to seeing it complete!

[sooner88]

are they planning cool signage for the water tower? I love this building and looking forward to seeing it complete!

I bet they want to keep the Fred Jones signage on the tower.

[Pete]

They have not proposed changing anything about the tower thus far.

I would think they'll leave it largely as-is. The other 21c's have very discrete signage.

[Urbanized]

What about paint over concrete?

I didn't like it at first but It's growing on me.

In this case there would be nothing wrong with it from an HP standpoint as it was already painted. HP standards frown on any paint being applied to a historically unpainted surface, but if it's already painted all bets are off. Stripping would probably be preferred, but not required.

The same would be true for brick, BTW. But painted concrete or brick would disallow that portion of the building from being included in a historic tax credit calculation, UNLESS the paint itself was historic; for instance a ghost sign. In those instances the recommendation would be that the historic painted surface be stabilized and preserved in its current condition.

An interior example of this is the stenciled detail in the lobby of the Skirvin, on the wall near the elevator. It is difficult to make out, but original, so its preservation was a part of the tax credit calculation.

[mkjeeves]

In this case there would be nothing wrong with it from an HP standpoint as it was already painted. HP standards frown on any paint being applied to a historically unpainted surface, but if it's already painted all bets are off. Stripping would probably be preferred, but not required.

The same would be true for brick, BTW. But painted concrete or brick would disallow that portion of the building from being included in a historic tax credit calculation, UNLESS the paint itself was historic; for instance a ghost sign. In those instances the recommendation would be that the historic painted surface be stabilized and preserved in its current condition.

An interior example of this is the stenciled detail in the lobby of the Skirvin, on the wall near the elevator. It is difficult to make out, but original, so its preservation was a part of the tax credit calculation.

I couldn't remember and thought it was bare concrete, but was just by there and see it was painted before. (Couldn't tell from the photo.) i suppose grey is a little more true to the underlying material than concrete painted the color of brick.