Sheridan and Oklahoma Garage

[Urbanized]

Not sure. The owner is a wild card. From strictly a business standpoint it is hard to justify spending money on it at this point unless it somehow increased profitability, which is unlikely. I know that's not how you and I see it, but that is bottom line thinking.

[catch22]

Could the city purchase the garage at some point? Would be good to have a publicly owned garage in Bricktown, as Bricktown fills in more and more, private parking will become more and more expensive. It's good to have a city owned garage who can provide parking at cheaper rates as they are not necessarily aiming for profit. If the city owned it the city could upgrade the facade a bit.

[shawnw]

I always wondered about that. At least they painted it.

[Rover]

Could the city purchase the garage at some point? Would be good to have a publicly owned garage in Bricktown, as Bricktown fills in more and more, private parking will become more and more expensive. It's good to have a city owned garage who can provide parking at cheaper rates as they are not necessarily aiming for profit. If the city owned it the city could upgrade the facade a bit.

If private business is willing to construct and operate garages there, why would the city want to compete and subsidize so as to discourage other investments in more development? Bricktown is past having to subsidize.

[TU 'cane]

So I was looking at some aerial maps of where this was going, and I see at least five parking lots southward within the same block and the adjacent block to the East that could theoretically be "absorbed" when this parking garage is completed. This would make way for those existing surface lots to be developed into something more valuable and I can't see who would really lose any sleep over losing them. And it'll be within easy walking distance for those retailers/restaurants, etc. I see much greater density in BT coming with this. Or perhaps I'm being too hopeful for a mere parking garage.

My screenshot is super small, sorry:

[Urbanized]

If private business is willing to construct and operate garages there, why would the city want to compete and subsidize so as to discourage other investments in more development? Bricktown is past having to subsidize.

Not only that, but as a taxpayer I don't want to see a community investment not maximizing its potential. The surface lots next to Santa Fe Depot are an example of this. While it was well intentioned to artificially suppress rates at a prime location ($8 for essentially across-from-arena parking) the unintended consequence is that those spaces become squats early in the day on event days, and don't turn over. The City could earn WAY more on those lots by charging market rate, but we leave it on the table instead. And the people for whom we were trying to create cheap parking never have a shot at it.

[gman11695]

Will this add another tower crane to the OKC skyline??

[Geographer]

I do enjoy the facade of this garage, it hides the parking very well. It is much more pleasing to the eye than the brick garage down the street near the ballpark, as others have already pointed out.

[Just the facts]

Anyone intersted in the subject of car parking should join The Shoupistas on Facebook.

[hoya]

What is the estimated price on this garage? Wondering about current cost per parking space, and also how much the nicer exterior is adding to the cost of construction.

[Spartan]

What is the estimated price on this garage? Wondering about current cost per parking space, and also how much the nicer exterior is adding to the cost of construction.

This won't just be typical publicly-available parking though, so a standard rate may only apply to what's excess after the hotel guests are parked. The nicer exterior makes a lot of sense when you're doing parking to enable a hotel (Patel's) and an office bldg (Cummins) that will be built without parking, and probably obtain leases here.

[hoya]

I don't mean cost to park, I mean cost to build.

[OkiePoke]

I don't mean cost to park, I mean cost to build.

I heard a good estimate is $5,000 for surface and $20,000 for a garage per spot. This might be wrong.

[Pete]

The new Main Street Garage cost $19MM for 830 spaces plus retail, which equates to a little over $23K per space.

[sroberts24]

This is pretty awesome. This one project is more infill than Bricktown has had in years, since the HGI was built. But this is just another infill project. Hard to wrap my mind around what BT was, what it is now and what it will be in a year. With Criterion, Steelyard, 3 more hotels, Bodyworks site, Cummings building, the hotel just to the east of this and this project? Mind Blown! And to think most of it has ground floor retail! BT has a very bright future!

[Urban Pioneer]

After all of the hell we (transit advocates) raised about Karchmer attempting to bifurcate the commuter rail corridor with parking structures in east Bricktown, I am glad to see him distracted and busy with this project.

It will be a perfect Park N' Ride for the streetcar system and will serve Santa Fe Station well until the Cox CC site is redeveloped in the future. With the streetcar stop immediately adjacent and the new pedestrian tunnel through the backside of Santa Fe Station, this garage will help with accessibility to the area.

[LakeEffect]

After all of the hell we (transit advocates) raised about Karchmer attempting to bifurcate the commuter rail corridor with parking structures in east Bricktown, I am glad to see him distracted and busy with this project.

It will be a perfect Park N' Ride for the streetcar system and will serve Santa Fe Station well until the Cox CC site is redeveloped in the future. With the streetcar stop immediately adjacent and the new pedestrian tunnel through the backside of Santa Fe Station, this garage will help with accessibility to the area.

Park N' Ride? When you're already downtown? Yikes.

[CS_Mike]

This is pretty awesome. This one project is more infill than Bricktown has had in years, since the HGI was built. But this is just another infill project. Hard to wrap my mind around what BT was, what it is now and what it will be in a year. With Criterion, Steelyard, 3 more hotels, Bodyworks site, Cummings building, the hotel just to the east of this and this project? Mind Blown! And to think most of it has ground floor retail! BT has a very bright future!

I believe there is supposed to be a garage replacing the surface lot next to the Melting Pot as well.

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^
He was intending on doing this project first all along.

[Plutonic Panda]

Park N' Ride? When you're already downtown? Yikes.

That's exactly what I was trying to say.

[Urban Pioneer]

Park N' Ride? When you're already downtown? Yikes.

Park once and ride the streetcar everywhere else. That is going to be the way of it unless you already reside downtown or are taking a bus. At least for the next 8 - 12 years before a commuter rail system exists. Mind you, I am not big on building parking garages on prime property. But that seems to be the reality.

[Just the facts]

Park N' Ride? When you're already downtown? Yikes.

Yea - I finally just had to give up myself. If anything, this will decrease ridership.

[bchris02]

Park N' Ride? When you're already downtown? Yikes.

Given the fact so many people here currently gasp at the thought of walking from Bricktown to MBG or Deep Deuce, that will be a step forward. There has to be a change in the way of thinking in terms of parking in OKC, and the first step is that you don't always have to park right in front of your destination. The streetcar should really help that.

[Just the facts]

Trurh be told, car parking next to the streetcar won't impact it either way - because mass transit isn't for people who drive. It is for people who don't drive.

[Pete]

Trurh be told, car parking next to the streetcar won't impact it either way - because mass transit isn't for people who drive. It is for people who don't drive.

That's ridiculous.

The huge percentage that will ride the streetcar will be people with cars who either live or work in the area.